American Airplane

phillyfan · Post by **phillyfan** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:29 pm

Anybody know what is required by a Canadian pilot in order to fly a privately registered american aircraft based in Canada. If there is an FAA written? Can it be done anywhere in Canada? Or would somebody have to travel to the US?

Thanks

bezerker · Post by **bezerker** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:36 pm

You need an FAA licence or a waiver. I think that there are many sites that let you know how to get a relatively quick conversion if you need to ($$$). The waiver used to be pretty easy. I'm not sure about post 9/11.

ahramin · Post by **ahramin** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 3:05 am

I thought you could operate an american aircraft in canada just on the basis of your canadian licence. Anyone seen a CAR stating otherwise? I would certainly like to see it and see the effective date on it if i am wrong here (for strictly inquisitive reasons of course).

Secondly, there is no such thing as an american registered aircraft based in canada. In order to register an american aircraft it has to do 70% of it's flying in the US. And yes, i know that some people register a us company and lie about how much flying the aircraft does in the us.

ahramin

ndb · Post by **ndb** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:33 am

You could always try reading the regulations.

For N-registered aircraft, FAR 61.3(1) applies:

"when the aircraft is operated within a foreign country, a current pilot license issued by the country in which the aircraft is operated may be used"

So you DON'T need any FAA licence to act as PIC of an N-registered aircraft in Canada, as far as the FAA is concerned.

As usual, Transport Canada is the problem here. CAR 202.42(1) applies:

"no person shall operate in Canada an aircraft that is registered in a foreign state that has been present in Canada for a total of 90 days or more in the immediately preceding twelve-month period"

However, to make things confusing as usual, Transport does have exemptions to the above - the most popular is probably an AOC.

Best to read the CARs yourself, Br*nt, and see exactly what applies to your particular circumstances.

flyboy441 · Post by **flyboy441** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:35 am

You should be able to get a restricted US licenece through an FAA office. It will be based on your canadian licence. It will allow you to fly a US reg. a/c but not for hire. I hold an US ATP and a restricted US Commercial. The only reason I still have the US restricted is because it allows me to fly single engine but not for hire.

ndb · Post by **ndb** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:13 am

uh, why not just add SEL to your FAA ATP?

ASA120 · Post by **ASA120** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:47 am

The restriction is 90 days in Canada, a quick border crosing and the clock resets.

phillyfan · Post by **phillyfan** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:51 am

Thanks alot guys. They sure don't make anything simple do they?

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:24 am

It used to be very straight forard, just go to a FISDO and produce your Canadian License and they gave you a US equivalent...you just can't use it to fly for pay.

Since 911 it has become more difficult, best phone the FAA.

Your biggest worry when flying without the proper license is the insurance companies.

ndb · Post by **ndb** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:53 am

ASA120: No! We only wish it were so. It's a maximum 90 days of the last 365 days, and even an overflight counts - you don't even have to touch the tires to the pavement to add another day.

Read the CARs.

pimper · Post by **pimper** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:12 pm

Just go to the skyservice hanger in YYZ. Most of the larger corporate stuff is not registered in Canada, but are based there. The best one is a G-IV owned by onex. Their crew is from the US, they fly up in a beach baron, ironically painted the same as the G-IV then fly out in the larger machine. What a crock of shat!!

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