Whats the diff. between the IATRA exam and the ATPL exam?

Flymez · Post by **Flymez** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:54 pm

I will be taking the aerocourse program to write my IATRA exam, I noticed that it's the same course for the ATPL. Can anyone tell me the difference?
how many questions in the IATRA exam?

spongebob · Post by **spongebob** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:06 pm

About 110 questions difference. IATRA has 50 questions. Both SARON and SAMRA have 80 questions each. IATRA is quite a bit easier.

Flymez · Post by **Flymez** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:19 pm

Wow is that it, is it even worth taking the Aerocoure program than or should i just get the books and study off that, save the Aerocourse for when im actually going to write the ATPL?

If I had the time I would write the ATPL instead, im only at 600TT

300_hour_wonder · Post by **300_hour_wonder** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:28 pm

i have heard nothing but good things for taking the aero course its basically pay some money for a garuntee pass

on a side note does renewing a PPC keep your ATPL exams current like it does for your IATRA or will you have to re write them if more than a year passes?

Flymez · Post by **Flymez** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:34 pm

now I feel like I dont know anything about aviation.... so your saying your IATRA expires after a year, if you dont have a current PPC?

Schlem · Post by **Schlem** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:06 pm

spongebob wrote: IATRA is quite a bit easier.

The fact that you have to study and know all the material for both ATPL exams to write the IATRA doesn't sound easier to me.

Bushav8er · Post by **Bushav8er** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:28 pm

basically pay some money for a garuntee pass

Gee...that sounds like "pay a bond and get a guaranteed job" -

BTD · Post by **BTD** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:09 pm

You don't get anything on your license when you complete the IATRA you just get the exam results. Those results are good for up to two years and by that time you must have received a type rating on your license otherwise your IATRA expires and you would have to write it again. If you get the type rating before then, then you are good to go.

BTD

Skipper · Post by **Skipper** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:47 pm

PLEASE RECONSIDER

If you have never been exposed to the type of material that is on the exam then go ahead. If you have seen some "large aircraft" material in your training, I would suggest saving your money and studying at home

I just passed both ATPL's through self study, and I'm no wizzkid (insert smartassed remarks here) The whole process of getting the license, exams, fees and all was less than the course would have cost

Can you happily part with nearly $500 bucks to write a $35 dollar exam?

You can fail the exam 14 times and not spend as much

I suggest getting a copy of the ****course book, go through it once and write the exam. You'll do fine!

Good luck!

Elessar_44 · Post by **Elessar_44** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:13 pm

I'm thinking of writing the IATRA now that I've seen a couple jobs post it as a req. I'm not doing much else now so I might as well spend that time getting the IATRA.

. ._ · Post by **. ._** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:40 pm

Is **** narrow, or Kurt Cobain?

(I love how we're all Cockney about this stuff. hehe)

-istp

oldtimer · Post by **oldtimer** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:45 pm

The IATRA was a "make-up" exam TC came up with to satisfy ICAO requirements for a pilot wishing to get a type rating on a type rating required airplane but the pilot did not have the required experience level to be able to sit for the ATPL exams.
An example is where a low time pilot gets a job flying a Metro 111/23 or Beech 1900D. A type rating is required because the MTOW is greater than 12,500 lbs.
Now do not confuse this with the Beech 200/Metro 11 types which are type rating required airplanes because they are high performance but MTOW is 12,500 lbs or less. If the airplane can be flown by a Captan who only requires a Commercial, then no IATRA. If the PIC requires an ATPL, then the F/O as to have either the IATRA or the ATPL written and passed. Captain on a Metro 11 (MTOW of 12,500) operated under CARS 703 (cargo or less than 9 pax) only requires a Commercial (plus multi-IFR, PPC etc.) but the Captain of a Metro 111 (MTOW of 14,500 or 16,000/16,500)requires an ATPL.
If you do not get a type rating before 2 years, you will have to rewrite. If you have sufficient hours to write the ATPL and (then) get a type rating on a greater than 12,500 MTOW airplane, the the ATPL or IATRA written exams can be held for future use. All spelled out in the CARS under personell licensing.
Some companies may require the exams as a job description just in case you work out well and they decide to upgrade you to the "heavy iron". Others because it is one way to seperate the wheat from the chaff and others just because they can!!!
A slightly) higher level of education, seperating the wheat from the chaff, being an asshole, being prepared -- take your pick.