Jewish extremists in Israel impose gender segregation on bus

[niss]

If the Palestinians want what they had before 1967 thats fine, I have no problem ending the occupation. If they want back what they had before 1948 they should @#$! themselves. Israel was created fair and square and everyone lost something in that creation, but that was something that was done civily (the UN partition).

[bob sacamano]

If the Palestinians want what they had before 1967 thats fine, I have no problem ending the occupation. If they want back what they had before 1948 they should @#$! themselves. Israel was created fair and square and everyone lost something in that creation, but that was something that was done civily (the UN partition).

You are a little girl who's riding around in her little girl bike, you have nothing to do with the occupation.

[bob sacamano]

First Israel Minister Resigns Over Lebanon War Report
Israeli cabinet minister without portfolio Eitan Cabel on Tuesday announced his resignation from the government after the administration was lambasted for its handling of last year's war in Lebanon.
"Following the publication of this report, I cannot remain in a government led by Ehud Olmert," Cabel told a news conference.

The prime minister "has lost the trust of the people and should resign immediately," he added.

Army radio speculated that his departure could have a "domino effect" on other ministers, with opinion polls, commentators and opposition politicians across the board demanding that Olmert and Defence Minister Amir Peretz resign.

The government commission appointed by Olmert seven months ago accused him of "serious failure in exercising judgement, responsibility and prudence" during last year's war against Hezbollah.

The report was equally withering about Peretz and then chief of staff Dan Halutz concluding that they failed in fulfilling their functions.(AFP)

[niss]

If the Palestinians want what they had before 1967 thats fine, I have no problem ending the occupation. If they want back what they had before 1948 they should @#$! themselves. Israel was created fair and square and everyone lost something in that creation, but that was something that was done civily (the UN partition).

You are a little girl who's riding around in her little girl bike, you have nothing to do with the occupation.

What are you doing here? Dont you have some books to burn?

[bob sacamano]

If the Palestinians want what they had before 1967 thats fine, I have no problem ending the occupation. If they want back what they had before 1948 they should @#$! themselves. Israel was created fair and square and everyone lost something in that creation, but that was something that was done civily (the UN partition).

You are a little girl who's riding around in her little girl bike, you have nothing to do with the occupation.

What are you doing here? Dont you have some books to burn?

Similar to many of your posts, this doesn't make any sense.

Are you implying that I am a muslim extremists?

Allow me to remind you, you used to say that I am a nazi.

What is it, nazi, extremist muslim, or anti-semite?

p.s. you are the only one here that is an extremist, you proudly displayed pictures of you in israel with machine guns, and prance around the forum spewing your zionist propoganda.

Have I ever said what my beliefs, background or religion is? If so, please do let me know.

Thanks for coming out, please do come again.

[twotter]

So Niss,

Are you really saying that the Palestinians have no right to their homeland? Do you think the Jews are more important than the Palestinians?

How can you say that they should go "@#$! themselves" and not feel a bit of guilt?

I really hope you are not that arrogant. If you are sir, I would suggest you follow your own advice given to the Palestinians and go @#$! yourself.


http://www.palestinehistory.com/index.php
http://www.palestinerefugees.org/index.htm
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/nueva_web/index.htm

Just some light reading for you while you are on your way to the synagogue..

[niss]

So Niss,

Are you really saying that the Palestinians have no right to their homeland? Do you think the Jews are more important than the Palestinians?

How can you say that they should go "@#$! themselves" and not feel a bit of guilt?

I really hope you are not that arrogant. If you are sir, I would suggest you follow your own advice given to the Palestinians and go @#$! yourself.


http://www.palestinehistory.com/index.php
http://www.palestinerefugees.org/index.htm
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/nueva_web/index.htm

Just some light reading for you while you are on your way to the synagogue..

I am not disputing that they should have a homeland (it should be noted that it is only something they wanted quite recently), but it should be made on the occupied territories. Are you suggesting that Israel should not be allowed to exist and all the land be returned to the decendants of the original inhabitants?

Bob:

[Pilot_adam]

Niss, I am very eager to know how the Palestinians left Palestine on may 15th 1948 !!!

Did they just decide over night to give up their homes and land to the new Jewish state and live as refugees elsewhere because the UN decided so ??

Did the Palestinians commit the holocaust ??if not why have they been paying the price for 60 years ???

Life is a real bitch indeed

Adam

[twotter]

[quote="niss"][quote="twotter"]


I am not disputing that they should have a homeland (it should be noted that it is only something they wanted quite recently), but it should be made on the occupied territories. Are you suggesting that Israel should not be allowed to exist and all the land be returned to the decendants of the original inhabitants?

Bob:



Yes..

Why should you be allowed to invade anothers teritory and make it your own? Why should they be displaced for your convenience?

As I asked you before, are you more important?

[niss]

Why dont you go ahead and show me the invasion that occured in 48 Twotter.

The british were in control then and they along with the UNs approval seperated the territory. There were Jews living in Arab Territory and there were Arabs living in Jewish Territory. Everyone lost something.

What invasion occured in 48? Other than the Arab invasion from Israels neighbours of course.

[twotter]

Some more light reading for anyone interested..


http://www.patriot.dk/zion1.html

[twotter]

Why dont you go ahead and show me the invasion that occured in 48 Twotter.

The british were in control then and they along with the UNs approval seperated the territory. There were Jews living in Arab Territory and there were Arabs living in Jewish Territory. Everyone lost something.

What invasion occured in 48? Other than the Arab invasion from Israels neighbours of course.

Read this..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab-Israeli_War

Yes, Isreal was invaded by the Arabs after it was basically annexed by the UN for the Jews. If the jews came and took over Ontario, do you think nobody would care? Do you not think some people would be pissed off? And maybe do something about it?

You still haven't answered my question.. Are you more important than an Arab?

[niss]

That would depend on the Arab twatter.

So you are saying that The Arab nations are perfectly Justified in driving the jews into the sea?

If the jews came and took over Ontario, do you think nobody would care?

What is your opinion on the plight of the Natives here Twotter?

Also you are ignoring the fact that there were pleanty of Jews living in Palestine before May 18 1948.

In 1947 30% of the entire population of Palestine was Jewish. And this land wasnt stolen either.

[twotter]

That would depend on the Arab twatter.

So you are saying that The Arab nations are perfectly Justified in driving the jews into the sea?

If the jews came and took over Ontario, do you think nobody would care?

What is your opinion on the plight of the Natives here Twotter?

You can't even compare the situation here with the Natives to what's happening over there.. First off we aren't going around shooting them.. We build them houses, not tear them down.

Trying to divert attention is not going to work here.. BTW, I'm part native..

ColorLines: What do you see as the root cause of the current Palestinian uprising?

Phyllis Bennis: What's going on right now can be summed up in one word: occupation. Contrary to the U.S. media's portrayal, the Israeli occupation of Palestine is at the root of what the media at best identify only as a "disproportionate" use of violence by the Israelis on the West Bank and Gaza.

For the entire article.. http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BEN108A.html

[niss]

You can't even compare the situation here with the Natives to what's happening over there.. First off we aren't going around shooting them.. We build them houses, not tear them down.

Trying to divert attention is not going to work here.. BTW, I'm part native..

Right, so the Canadian government didnt force Natives into reserves? They didnt pluck thousands from their families and send them to government schools were many were raped?

This is going to be a hard conversation to have if you cant even accept the right of Israel to exist.

I think that Palestine should be a sovreign nation, and I think that Gaza and the West Bank is a perfect place for it. I believe in pulling out of the territories (with exeption of East Jerusalem) and the Palestinians should have the right to rule themselves. The Palestinian refugees should have a right to return to Palestine, not Israel but Palestine, in wherever that may be.

[twotter]

Again, totally different situation, and one where we Canadians have hopefully learned from mistakes made in the past and won't make the same ones again. As I said, I don't see many Canadians out shooting the Natives..

I got this from http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre ... ry811.html

Is it Israeli Democracy or "Jewish Democracy", you be the judge. Are you aware that:

Prior to the 1948 war, Palestinian Christians and Muslims were a two-third majority of the population of Palestine, who owned and operated 93% of Palestine's lands?


Prior to the 1948 war, most Israeli Jews were persecuted and dispossessed European Jews who made a one-third minority of the population?


For Israel to become a "Jewish majority" it opted to expel and dispossess the two-third Palestinian majority?


80% of the Palestinian people were dispossessed from their homes, farms, and businesses and have been kept out for the past 54 years?


95% of Israel's lands (which is mostly owned by Palestinian refugees) is open for development to Jews only?


Israeli-Palestinian citizens live almost in segregated communities (or ghettos) because development is strictly limited outside their villages? Ironically, the word "ghetto" was invented to describe the living conditions of Eastern European Jews in Tsarist Russia!


For just being "Jewish" you gain an automatic citizenship in Israel? Plus tens of thousands of dollars in subsidies too.


Palestinian Muslims or Christians refugees, who were born in the country and later expelled, cannot gain Israeli citizenship? Of course, unless they convert to Judaism first!


Pretending to be Jewish in Israel is punishable by law with up to one year's imprisonment? On the other hand, if you pretend to be a Muslim or Christian the law does you no harm!


When the Palestine problem was created by Britain in 1917, more than 92% of the population of Palestine were Arabs and there were at that time no more than 56,000 Jews in Palestine? That Muslim, Christian, and Jewish Palestinians at that time lived in peace with each other?


Palestinians in the early 20th century owned 97.5% of the land, while Jews (native Palestinians and recent immigrants together) owned only 2.5% of the land?


Close to 4 million Palestinian Muslims and Christians are being subjected to Israeli laws that are different than the laws governing the 4.5 million Israeli Jews? Is this a "democratically" elected apartheid, or not, that is the question?


In the occupied West Bank there are "Jewish Roads" and "Non-Jewish Roads"?


Israel issues national identify cards where the religion of the card holder is clearly shown in bold type?


Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and Gaza drive vehicles with license plates that have different coloring than the cars driven by Israeli settlers?


Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and Gaza hold ID cards that are of different colors than the cards held by Israeli settlers?


The only form of Judaism recognized by the "Jewish state" is Orthodox Judaism, so most US Jews could not get married in Israel. Furthermore, the only conversion to Judaism recognized is Orthodox, so most US converts aren't Jewish enough.


Just prior to the 1948 war, Jews owned under 7% of Palestine's land, and to increase their share after the war, they passed the "Absentees' Law" which dispossessed the Palestinian majority land owners who later became "absent". What is even more tragic was the passage of an oxymoron law, called "Present Absentees' Law," which dispossessed the Palestinian-Israeli citizens who became internal refugees in Israel. It is worth noting that the internal Jewish refugees were not dispossessed as a result of this racist law.


The U.S. funneled into the Israeli economy over 130 billion dollars, which is almost twice the amount devoted to rebuilding Western Europe after WW II!


Israeli democracy is a facade for "Jewish Democracy?"


Israel has nuclear weapons, and it was close to dropping one on Cairo in 1973?


Israeli soldiers use human shields in battle to minimize their casualties?


Israel killed over 20,000 Lebanese and Muslims (90% of whom are civilians) with American made and paid for weapons?

[twotter]

Hey, one of us has to work for a living so we'll have to continue this later. One last thing for you though.. Where do you fit on this list of descriptions?

http://frumsatire.wordpress.com/2006/12 ... nto-a-box/

Too long to post here so you'll have to use the link..

[niss]

Again, totally different situation, and one where we Canadians have hopefully learned from mistakes made in the past and won't make the same ones again. As I said, I don't see many Canadians out shooting the Natives..

I got this from http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre ... ry811.html

Is it Israeli Democracy or "Jewish Democracy", you be the judge. Are you aware that:

Prior to the 1948 war, Palestinian Christians and Muslims were a two-third majority of the population of Palestine, who owned and operated 93% of Palestine's lands?


Prior to the 1948 war, most Israeli Jews were persecuted and dispossessed European Jews who made a one-third minority of the population?


For Israel to become a "Jewish majority" it opted to expel and dispossess the two-third Palestinian majority?


80% of the Palestinian people were dispossessed from their homes, farms, and businesses and have been kept out for the past 54 years?


95% of Israel's lands (which is mostly owned by Palestinian refugees) is open for development to Jews only?


Israeli-Palestinian citizens live almost in segregated communities (or ghettos) because development is strictly limited outside their villages? Ironically, the word "ghetto" was invented to describe the living conditions of Eastern European Jews in Tsarist Russia!


For just being "Jewish" you gain an automatic citizenship in Israel? Plus tens of thousands of dollars in subsidies too.


Palestinian Muslims or Christians refugees, who were born in the country and later expelled, cannot gain Israeli citizenship? Of course, unless they convert to Judaism first!


Pretending to be Jewish in Israel is punishable by law with up to one year's imprisonment? On the other hand, if you pretend to be a Muslim or Christian the law does you no harm!


When the Palestine problem was created by Britain in 1917, more than 92% of the population of Palestine were Arabs and there were at that time no more than 56,000 Jews in Palestine? That Muslim, Christian, and Jewish Palestinians at that time lived in peace with each other?


Palestinians in the early 20th century owned 97.5% of the land, while Jews (native Palestinians and recent immigrants together) owned only 2.5% of the land?


Close to 4 million Palestinian Muslims and Christians are being subjected to Israeli laws that are different than the laws governing the 4.5 million Israeli Jews? Is this a "democratically" elected apartheid, or not, that is the question?


In the occupied West Bank there are "Jewish Roads" and "Non-Jewish Roads"?


Israel issues national identify cards where the religion of the card holder is clearly shown in bold type?


Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and Gaza drive vehicles with license plates that have different coloring than the cars driven by Israeli settlers?


Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and Gaza hold ID cards that are of different colors than the cards held by Israeli settlers?


The only form of Judaism recognized by the "Jewish state" is Orthodox Judaism, so most US Jews could not get married in Israel. Furthermore, the only conversion to Judaism recognized is Orthodox, so most US converts aren't Jewish enough.


Just prior to the 1948 war, Jews owned under 7% of Palestine's land, and to increase their share after the war, they passed the "Absentees' Law" which dispossessed the Palestinian majority land owners who later became "absent". What is even more tragic was the passage of an oxymoron law, called "Present Absentees' Law," which dispossessed the Palestinian-Israeli citizens who became internal refugees in Israel. It is worth noting that the internal Jewish refugees were not dispossessed as a result of this racist law.


The U.S. funneled into the Israeli economy over 130 billion dollars, which is almost twice the amount devoted to rebuilding Western Europe after WW II!


Israeli democracy is a facade for "Jewish Democracy?"


Israel has nuclear weapons, and it was close to dropping one on Cairo in 1973?


Israeli soldiers use human shields in battle to minimize their casualties?


Israel killed over 20,000 Lebanese and Muslims (90% of whom are civilians) with American made and paid for weapons?

I cant believe some of that bullshit you put in there.

The only form of Judaism recognized by the "Jewish state" is Orthodox Judaism, so most US Jews could not get married in Israel. Furthermore, the only conversion to Judaism recognized is Orthodox, so most US converts aren't Jewish enough.

That is not true, the rule is if you were Jewish enough to die in the holocaust you are Jewish enough to get into Israel. There have been cases of practicing Christians and Muslims getting into Israel using the law of return because they had a grandparent or a parent who was Jewish.

Close to 4 million Palestinian Muslims and Christians are being subjected to Israeli laws that are different than the laws governing the 4.5 million Israeli Jews? Is this a "democratically" elected apartheid, or not, that is the question?

What laws are these? I would like to see how Israeli-Christians and Israeli-Muslims fall under another law.

When the Palestine problem was created by Britain in 1917, more than 92% of the population of Palestine were Arabs and there were at that time no more than 56,000 Jews in Palestine? That Muslim, Christian, and Jewish Palestinians at that time lived in peace with each other?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine# ... te_periods

1914 there were 94,000 Jews, this number dropped to 84,000 in 1922.

As per peace and 1917, the Balfour agreement was put in 1917 and for the violence have a look at this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_i ... to_1940-45

For Israel to become a "Jewish majority" it opted to expel and dispossess the two-third Palestinian majority?

Actually for it to be a Jewish Majority they tooke 30% of the population and put them into a territory that was 53% of the original territory. Thats how they became the majority, and then took the rest of the land in defensive wars.

Pretending to be Jewish in Israel is punishable by law with up to one year's imprisonment? On the other hand, if you pretend to be a Muslim or Christian the law does you no harm!

Where the @#$! did you dig this up?

Israeli soldiers use human shields in battle to minimize their casualties?

Like any country out there there have been iscolated incidents of Soldiers abusing their power, however it is against Israeli law to use human sheilds.

Palestinian Muslims or Christians refugees, who were born in the country and later expelled, cannot gain Israeli citizenship? Of course, unless they convert to Judaism first!

Cite your source. There are pleanty of non Jews who immigrate to Israel.

95% of Israel's lands (which is mostly owned by Palestinian refugees) is open for development to Jews only?

Sigh. Again pleanty of non-jews are in israel own and work the land too.

For just being "Jewish" you gain an automatic citizenship in Israel? Plus tens of thousands of dollars in subsidies too.

Completely ignores the fact that Israel was created partially in answer to the holocaust and theirfor was set up to protect Jews from future persicutions.

[JakeYYZ]

Niss, the boy obviously has “received wisdom”…
Towtter’s, a man of genius and doesn't make 'mistalks'
though his 'air'ors are violational....they are the portals of discovery.........................
.......btw all of a sudden I smell dogshit.... does anyone else smell dogshit ?....pi-dog shit specifically...if my nose is not mis-snookin'.

[Springbok 3]

Maybe this might help to clear things up:

Below is the initiation of the Balfour Agreement:

Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917

Dear Lord Rothschild,

I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours sincerely,
Arthur James Balfour