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New Company, same plane

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flying a managed airplane, the airplane is being taken over by another company.

want to hear from others who have gone through this transition, Good? Bad? Ugly?
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Post by Johnny »

With your charm and panache, should be smooth sailing.

Tell them you want a raise of 80%, stock options, RRSP, benefits, and 7 weeks off per year.

If anyone can do it, it's you!

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Id be happy with what I make, they are offering 72% of what i make now, go figure
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Post by Wood »

It's not a bad company.
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Post by The Other Kind »

Same plane and a 28% cut in pay.

Obviously more info is needed here but at first blush, hardly sounds like it's not a bad company.

Good luck Floats.
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Ok, maybe it's the wine, but now I'm annoyed.

I have never considered myself a 'union man', in fact I loath the Buzz Hargrove types. I am starting to reconsider my position.

Here we have a pilot making $XX today, and tomorrow the aircraft owner decides to move it to a different management company. One (probably two) pilots are now expected to take a 28% cut in pay?

To fly the same people in the same aircraft.

Does the new company have a busier charter department? Will the aircraft fly more revenue hours? Probably, or the owner would not have made the move.

But wait - the crew is making 28% less.

TO FLY MORE.

And someone posted this.

It's not a bad company.
This industry is f$%ked.
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Post by 180 »

With a tag like 'floats', I'm assuming you have float experience. With float experience, you could probably make 5 phone calls and get 3 job offers over the phone. I saw Barry O'Brian from Voyage Air was looking for 185 and Beaver pilots:


Job Description:
We are looking for experienced, safe “Bush Pilots” for C-185 and Beaver
aircraft on floats. Jobs are based out of Buffalo Narrows, Saskatchewan
and possibly Fort McMurray, Alberta. Position requires a minimum of
1000 hrs PIC with 500 hrs PIC on floats. Pervious Dispatcher/Base
manager/AME experience considered an asset. Season begins mid May and continues
full time till mid Oct. Wages are calculated by a rate per day + flying
commissions and vary with experience and assigned duties.

Salary:C-185 ($3500.00 > $6000.00), DHC-2 ($4500.00 > $8500.00)
Closing Date:01 May 2007


Tell your boss you want the same money you were making last year or you walk!
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Post by Floats »

flying a jet now, I use too fly floats and loved it, but cant go back to seasonal work, or back up north for that matter. Im too spoiled
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Post by just curious »

Look at the many many postings in the job section. Take one & tell old boss to pound sand. Don't tell him nicely.
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Post by Rudy »

Go find somewhere else to work. There's lots of people looking for jet experience. Stand up for yourself people.
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Post by flyinphil »

The Other Kind wrote:Ok, maybe it's the wine, but now I'm annoyed.

I have never considered myself a 'union man', in fact I loath the Buzz Hargrove types. I am starting to reconsider my position.

Here we have a pilot making $XX today, and tomorrow the aircraft owner decides to move it to a different management company. One (probably two) pilots are now expected to take a 28% cut in pay?

To fly the same people in the same aircraft.

Does the new company have a busier charter department? Will the aircraft fly more revenue hours? Probably, or the owner would not have made the move.

But wait - the crew is making 28% less.

TO FLY MORE.

And someone posted this.

It's not a bad company.
This industry is f$%ked.
The union didn't manage to maintain Air Canada pilot salaries. Just an observation.

This is the problem with all management companies. You can bet the aircraft owner is paying the same rate as he was previously. The management company is just lining their pockets with your money. Find another job!
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Post by just curious »

Out of idle interest, where (roughly) is this business?
Out west, nobody can hang onto pilots with raises.
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Post by Floats »

airplane is located in southern ontario. basically told them to pound salt and now receiving offers %220 more than they were offering.

I wonder if this company will find anyone
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Post by Rudy »

Good for you and thank you for helping to improve salaries.
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Post by LostinRotation »

Good to hear someone making a stand and doing better for it.

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