Don't forget to untie her.....

Speedbird Junior · Post by **Speedbird Junior** » Thu May 10, 2007 2:43 pm

Unreal!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/6643891.stm

So much for the walk around then.....

Kilo-Kilo · Post by **Kilo-Kilo** » Thu May 10, 2007 2:48 pm

I wonder if, being a low wing, it beat the piss out of the bottom of the wing on take off roll? I could only imagine the kind of noise that would make.

happily.retired · Post by **happily.retired** » Thu May 10, 2007 2:59 pm

So the pilot didn't see it on the walk arround, hear it on taxi, feel the drag and yaw on the take off run, or the unusually rolling tendancy in flight? WOW! How do you defend that kind of stupidity when TC goes after the PIC?

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:26 pm

WOW! How do you defend that kind of stupidity when TC goes after the PIC?

Is TC now looking into incidents in Britian?

And believe it or not I actually saw a Cherokee take off one day with both cement tie down blocks firmly tied to the wings.

Stupidity knows no bounds.

Widow · Post by **Widow** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:39 pm

Pilot is pretty lucky that chunk didn't hit someone on the head on it's way down.

Jim N · Post by **Jim N** » Thu May 10, 2007 4:09 pm

As others have pointed out, how could anyone get airborne without noticing that...

It reminds me of when I was instructing. One of the students forgot to untie one wing. He got in, started up and called ground for taxi. The controller gave him taxi instructions and the current altimeter and then added 'but you're not going to get too far with the left wing tied down....Give me a call back when you are ready to go again.'

Great observational skills on the controllers part, as the tower at ZBB is quite a distance from the ramp. And to think BD had a reputation for not being very helpful at times....He sure was that day and saved the student some grief

Hey Speedbird Jr. you gonna change your location or what? Haven't seen you on the South side in a while....Hope all is well wherever you are currently...

Guido · Post by **Guido** » Thu May 10, 2007 4:56 pm

Cat Driver wrote:
WOW! How do you defend that kind of stupidity when TC goes after the PIC?
Is TC now looking into incidents in Britian?

And believe it or not I actually saw a Cherokee take off one day with both cement tie down blocks firmly tied to the wings.

Stupidity knows no bounds.

Man... I've heard a story about a Caravan flying off with the tail tie down still in place... which happened to be an old tire filled with concrete with a post sticking out. They never did find the tie down. just the rope when they got to their destination...

Human Factor · Post by **Human Factor** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:50 pm

Rumour has it a C172 from Victoria Flying Club took off with the tail tie-down block still attached. I didn't see it, that's what makes it a rumour.

complexintentions · Post by **complexintentions** » Thu May 10, 2007 11:22 pm

I DID see it...was working at the Aerocentre next door at the time, and heard the pilot calling the tower in a panic because he was having control difficulties (ya THINK?!). So on the scanner I could hear them sending out Red 1 on Ground to standby while our intrepid aviator came right back in to land...the fire chief attending the a/c stopped on the runway was on the radio reporting what had happened (a big cinder block tied to the tail). In the background you could hear the other firefighters laughing their asses off!

The funny thing is if you are familiar with the layout of the YYJ airport, I'd remembered hearing a light aircraft taxiing by to takeoff on 27 with what seemed to be an unusual amount of power...I guess it takes quite a bit of throttle to drag a big block along behind you! (This was all at night btw.)

I later heard the firemen just cut the block off and chucked in in the truck, and the a/c slunk back to the hangar....

So no. Not a rumour. This was in the early to mid-nineties.

Mitch Cronin · Post by **Mitch Cronin** » Fri May 11, 2007 5:12 am

...I'm sorry, I have nothing to add to this fascinating thread (chuckle, snort, sniff)...
I just want to ask about this very puzzling avatar:

Why on earth would anyone try to make up an L1011 like a Canadian Airlines bird????????

disco · Post by **disco** » Fri May 11, 2007 5:26 am

Wow,

I thought this was a thread about dating tips.

Shiny Side Up · Post by **Shiny Side Up** » Fri May 11, 2007 8:37 am

The absolute best was watching one fellow taxi in a circle around one of his wing tie downs, shut down, get out, check his wheels, get back in, start up again, taxi another quarter cricle around, then untie the wing.

2R · Post by 2R » Fri May 11, 2007 8:48 am

One president of a flying club on the West coast took off with a 25 litre pail of graval tied to the tail for a fun circuit .

The walk around starts as you approach the airplane as you may not notice some things up close.

The best i saw was two instructor candidates start a 152 with both fuel caps off.I told them to shut down .They asked what was wrong .I told them to figure it out for themselves if they wanted to be pilots.The only hint i gave was "What can you smell ?"as the fuel was dripping off the trailing edge.I should have asked if they had any matches

They each had the standard i thought you done it arguement and both went on to healthy careers flying .

Human Factor · Post by **Human Factor** » Fri May 11, 2007 9:12 am

Mitch Cronin wrote: ...I'm sorry, I have nothing to add to this fascinating thread (chuckle, snort, sniff)...
I just want to ask about this very puzzling avatar:
Why on earth would anyone try to make up an L1011 like a Canadian Airlines bird????????

Good question. I liked the irony of it.

Elessar_44 · Post by **Elessar_44** » Fri May 11, 2007 9:57 am

And thats why we use ground pegs!

shankdown · Post by **shankdown** » Fri May 11, 2007 11:48 am

I watched a guy at a small airport in Missouri load his buddies into a cherokee, smiling with pride at the opportunity to dazzle them with his aviation prowess. He started up, powered up heavily to jump the chocks, then did a quarter turn around the one wing that was tied down. He sheepishly had to climb over his buddy, out the door, get rid of the chocks, and untie the airplane. I made eye contact with him, too, as he got out. I threw in an "I'm very disappointed in you" head shake, which is very effective (even from 50 feet away) to bring his face to a glowing red colour. I'm surprised his buddies didn't just get out and go back inside, as that stuff doesn't really instill confidence in passengers.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Fri May 11, 2007 11:55 am

There can be no excuse for not knowing the airplane is tied down before trying to move it. If someone is this careless what else do they miss?

At best a license suspension is called for.

Shiny Side Up · Post by **Shiny Side Up** » Fri May 11, 2007 12:37 pm

Cat Driver wrote:There can be no excuse for not knowing the airplane is tied down before trying to move it. If someone is this careless what else do they miss?

At best a license suspension is called for.

True, but since they don't allow us citizen pilots the ability to revoke or seize licences, it would mean involving TC in the issue which would mean 1) Nothing would get done about it and 2) it would involve a long and convoluted process. Most of us then resort to the lesser of the two evils when we have the misfortune of witnessing such an event of gross pilot negligence - we point and laugh.

Hell you have to! If you worried about all the idiots doing stupid things out there you'd never get anything done.

Concestor 0 · Post by **Concestor 0** » Fri May 11, 2007 8:26 pm

I'M GOING........TO FLY........AN ......AIRPLANE...AIRPLANE

ski_bum · Post by **ski_bum** » Sat May 12, 2007 5:50 pm

external load??

. ._ · Post by **. ._** » Sun May 13, 2007 6:59 am

ski_bum wrote:external load??

How dare you try to hijack the thread!

-istp

TTJJ · Post by **TTJJ** » Sun May 13, 2007 10:38 am

This kind of ignorance is everywhere.

Last summer as I was sitting on my motorcycle, a guy jumped on his and took off. He had a lock on his front wheel so he didn't get any further than he could fly over the handlebars.

I helped him up and told him about the lock.

He thanked me red faced, jumped on his bike, goosed it and flew over the bars again!

You gotta wonder...