PRINCE EDWARD AIR

krben · Post by **krben** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:54 am

Does anybody have any information on Prince Edward Air?

-Ramp time / pay
-Aircraft progession

I understand ramp is office work. Anybody know where you are based? where you will be based once on the Navajo?

Is this a good company to ramp for?

Any info would be greatly apreciated. Feel free to PM me.

-thx

Lommer · Post by **Lommer** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:42 am

Ramp is not office work. Ramp is working outside towing planes and driving a fuel truck around and fuelling the planes. Depending on where you work you may also be grooming the insides of planes and cleaning the exteriors too, as well as general building maitenance around the site.

krben · Post by **krben** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:52 am

Oh I understand that. I am a northern rampie right now. I was referring to PE Air. I hear ramp there is office work.

C-GGGQ · Post by **C-GGGQ** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:57 am

F/O on their navajo recieves roughly 12,500 a year works a split shift so you can't get another job, you have to be FO for at least 1 if not 2 years before you upgrade to captain.

krben · Post by **krben** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:22 am

any word on current ramp time at PE Air or pay?

krben · Post by **krben** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:53 pm

thank-you all for your pm's. I really appreciate it

AV8R · Post by **AV8R** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:32 pm

8$hr for ramp(office work), expect to be a bitch..and to spend like 15 months on the ground..i wouldn't reccomend it

Wally3Wheels · Post by **Wally3Wheels** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:55 pm

Starting pay is $16,800 - Dispatcher or groomer/hz ops guy. It sucks.

Not a split shift - in HZ you normally either work the morning shift of evening shift.

If you work in the Charter department in YG you also get checked out to do some sightseeing/aerial surveys in the 172.

If your a dispatcher in QM there's normally 4 - 5 in the department - 2 most senior also get checked out and fly part-time F/O on the chieftain.

The 2500.00 non refundable for the check out is done away with - finally. It's now a training agreement that's paid out of 24 months. Hopefully this helps.

CAL · Post by **CAL** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:06 am

I still dont know how these guys get away with paying what they pey....especially in this market at the moment...some of these numbers are disturbing.....cant believe guys are actually accepting these jobs...all that money and time and effort put into your training and you are willing to be grounded for a year or more at 8 bucks and hour?...get out of the maritimes and go find something else.

invertedattitude · Post by **invertedattitude** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:47 am

CAL wrote:I still dont know how these guys get away with paying what they pey....especially in this market at the moment...some of these numbers are disturbing.....cant believe guys are actually accepting these jobs...all that money and time and effort put into your training and you are willing to be grounded for a year or more at 8 bucks and hour?...get out of the maritimes and go find something else.

Quality of life is worth more than you realize, especially when you're from around these parts.

There's several pilots with Comet that could easily transfer to WestJet or Air Canada, but choose not to because they love their job and the quality of life. (Of their home I mean)

I don't know if you're from here, but being from the Maritimes is something you always want to come back to.

If you offered me $160,000 a year for my job in Toronto/Vancouver or $100,000 in Moncton, I'd gladly stay in Moncton.

I don't work, nor ever have worked for PEAir, but I do know a lot of their staff and have met many more over the years, some of the most dedicated great bunch of guys/gals you'll ever meet. In fact my first flight ever was in a glider with one of their senior pilots.

Maritimes don't expect Upper Canadians to understand

krben · Post by **krben** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:54 pm

The only problem with your theory of " going somewhere else " is that it usually isn't an option for those of us with 250 hours. As long as I can get my KD and I have a roof over my head, then what is there to complain about? You get to fly an aircraft in the greatest country in the world to boot.

It appears lost to a few out there that being a pilot is as much a priviledge as it is a vocation.

app flap · Post by **app flap** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:59 pm

krben wrote:The only problem with your theory of " going somewhere else " is that it usually isn't an option for those of us with 250 hours. As long as I can get my KD and I have a roof over my head, then what is there to complain about? You get to fly an aircraft in the greatest country in the world to boot.

It appears lost to a few out there that being a pilot is as much a priviledge as it is a vocation.

it appears lost to you that being a pilot is still a job, just because you enjoy what you do for a living does NOT make it ok to settle for being paid shit. you are what is wrong with aviation.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:01 pm

You get to fly an aircraft in the greatest country in the world to boot.

Hmmmm....how many countries have you flown in to make such a definitive statement?

It may be a great place to live, but as a place to fly it is third world pay wise.

hazatude · Post by **hazatude** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:31 pm

The people that I know that work there seem happy.

flynfiddle · Post by **flynfiddle** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:36 pm

Ummm, I haven't really researched it much but last time I checked there were not a whole lot of $100,000 flying gigs in Moncton ... that's not to say they don't exist (as I am sure the next post after this one will list every frickin' one of them)

If you're willing to work for $12,500-$20,000 a year because you can't bear to leave the homestead, well I guess you don't need money like most of us do.

I'm from NS, lived there over 30 years, loved it but I doubt I will ever live there again until something BIG happens in this industry back there.

Just my 2 cents.

PS ... Keith's is sold just about everywhere in Canada and I can send you a homemade donair recipe if you're a die-hard.

Hoov · Post by **Hoov** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:27 am

12,500 is a damn fine salary, as long as you don't care for weiners in your KD. Thats just ridiculous.

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:36 am

krben, you are the new breed of fool! "As long as I can get my KD and I have a roof over my head......" You could have saved a bloody fortune just taking a course to "fly" forklifts!!
How long have you been a "northern rampie"? Haven't learned the lesson yet? Need a refresher?
Rampie=Slave.

PA31 Driver · Post by **PA31 Driver** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:16 pm

the money may not be the best, but i can assure you all, you do get the hours pretty quick and the planes are well maintained...I'm sure alot of you can't say that about other companies...

wrc · Post by **wrc** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:45 pm

There's several pilots with Comet that could easily transfer to WestJet or Air Canada, but choose not to because they love their job and the quality of life. (Of their home I mean)

As if! Then they could transfer to PAL, Lab Air or someone else and make real money.
PEAir is just an extension of Bob's old Eastern Flying Service. A scurvy outfit if there ever was one. Look for the burnt out wreck off the end of YHZ R33.
Should still be there. I'm not saying never work for Bob. Good way to get some hours and get a better job but to say anyone would stay doing runs for PEAir over AC or WJ is laughable to say the least.

invertedattitude · Post by **invertedattitude** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:02 pm

I'd suggest talking to some of the PEAir guys before saying there's no way.

Like I said Upper Canadians don't understand how bad we enjoy living down here.

You'd have to triple my salary to make me move to Toronto/Vancouver, and buy me a house way out of town and real fancy car to get to/from work

I alsowant to add: Living in Newfoundland is not the same as the Maritimes. I've got nothing against Gods Country or anything, but I know lots of great guys from there who prefer living in the Maritimes over NFLD/Lab simply because you can live around the same great people and have a little more oppertunity for families.

frog · Post by **frog** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:47 pm

Maritimes?

I was off today so I went to the beach and swam in nice and warm water...air temperature...26 degrees...it took me 15 minutes to go to Parlee beach and yes I live in Moncton...

twotter · Post by **twotter** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:06 am

Don't know much about PEair except for the QA guy.. And I'd say he's a class act... Can't swim worth shit but a great guy..

flyinphil · Post by **flyinphil** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:22 am

invertedattitude wrote:I'd suggest talking to some of the PEAir guys before saying there's no way.

Like I said Upper Canadians don't understand how bad we enjoy living down here.

You'd have to triple my salary to make me move to Toronto/Vancouver, and buy me a house way out of town and real fancy car to get to/from work

Just curious as to why you think folks from other than the maritimes don't share your affinity with their home town, region or province. The rest of us wouldn't understand?

Just because you like living there doesn't mean everybody would like it.

BTW, Vancouver isn't "Upper Canada".

invertedattitude · Post by **invertedattitude** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:33 am

I'm not saying you wouldn't love your hometown, but I don't know if you've lived down here, its not the same as the rest of the country.

I can't say how YVR is, it's one town I've never had the pleasure to visit, but I hear it's a nice place to live.

Whens the last time you heard of "Westerners" sticking together as a group?

"Maritimers" and "Atlantic Canadians" have been sticking together and fighting the rest of the country for decades, for that reason people here are very loyal to local companies and operations.

I'm not saying the rest of the country sucks, but everyone has their own hometowns.

In the east we have to stick together to keep from getting steamrolled by Ottawa and the rest of the country.

Newfoundlands Oil riches is a perfect example. Now we're skewing wayy off subject

altiplano · Post by **altiplano** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:57 am

its not the same as the rest of the country

Yes you truly are special out there...

Everywhere is different and most people have pride in where they come from but get over yourself...

BTW - You guys stick together so you can keep juicing us...

Here's a bit of western unity for you...

http://www.refedbc.com/

http://www.separationalberta.com/