CDN North Lands -8 without Nosegear in YZF

caravanman · Post by **caravanman** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:13 am

Basically the title of this subject explains my question, Anybody out there know what happened to this -8

matrix · Post by **matrix** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:58 am

Check your sources. Canadian North does not operate any Dash-8s. There is another operator that operates them on behalf of 5T.

. ._ · Post by **. ._** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:02 am

Probably terrorism.

CD · Post by CD » Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:04 am

matrix wrote:Check your sources. Canadian North does not operate any Dash-8s. There is another operator that operates them on behalf of 5T.

I guess I must be seeing things then...

(yes, I know that it's a Regional 1 lease...)

Joe would love to tell you all about his airline’s new Dash 8 Combi aircraft . . . but his team needs him for the face-off.
Canadian North Fleet

stratcat · Post by **stratcat** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:17 am

regional 1 operates it with canadian north colors

Flybaby · Post by **Flybaby** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:24 am

Probably terrorism.

Was passenger liquids involved; I bet you some terrorist smuggled a 150ml container of toothpaste on board.

Goose · Post by **Goose** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:57 am

Holy crap, this place dumber by the day! Is it really that important about owns/operates the aircraft. The question was asking if anyone had any information on a plane that had an accident. Does anyone?

plhought · Post by **plhought** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:02 pm

Donald · Post by **Donald** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:18 pm

Goose wrote:Holy crap, this place dumber by the day! Is it really that important about owns/operates the aircraft. The question was asking if anyone had any information on a plane that had an accident. Does anyone?

Well actually it is important. Imagine if a Tier III operator such as Georgian or CMA had an unfortunate incident. What would make an accurate or attention-grabbing headline, "CMA lands without nosegear" or "Air Canada lands without nosegear"?

Longtimer · Post by **Longtimer** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:29 pm

In this case it appears that there is no headline since , at least up to now, there is no news article

CD · Post by CD » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:42 pm

Well, some news services are reporting the incident:

Northern News Services Online - News Briefs

Plane lands without nose gear

A Canadian North flight from Gjoa Haven landed without nose gear at Yellowknife airport Tuesday evening. The Dash 8 aircraft's nose gear did not descend and the plane came in for landing on its back wheels and front fuselage at around 7:30 p.m. Yellowknife Fire Department and the airport's emergency services personnel were dispatched. The plane had been scheduled to continue on to Hay River from Yellowknife, but that flight was cancelled. For photos and full story, see Friday's Yellowknifer.

CBC North

Plane makes emergency landing at Yellowknife airport

Last Updated: Wednesday, June 6, 2007 | 3:22 PM CT
CBC News

A Canadian North passenger plane en route from Gjoa Haven to Cambridge Bay in Nunavut made an emergency landing in Yellowknife early Tuesday evening after its front landing gear did not work.

The pilot decided to fly to Yellowknife when the landing gear would not deploy as the Dash 8 aircraft approached the Cambridge Bay airport, airline spokesman Kelley Kaylo said Wednesday.

The plane travelled the extra 850 kilometres west to Yellowknife because its airport is better equipped to handle emergency landings.

It circled the airport for about 15 minutes, in an attempt to reduce the amount of fuel it had on board, before landing on its belly on an airport runway around 7 p.m.

"The aircraft landed here in Yellowknife on the two main landing gear. The nose gear did not engage," Kaylo said. "And so the aircraft came to a stop where the nose touched down onto the runway."

Kaylo said none of the five passengers or the three crew members on board were injured in the incident.

See also CADORS 2007C1479

Donald · Post by **Donald** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:43 pm

Yellowknifer, page 3, small blurb with "photos and story in Fridays edition".

bigsky · Post by **bigsky** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:53 pm

Record #10Cadors Number: 2007C1479 Reporting Region: Prairie & Northern

Occurrence InformationOccurrence Type: Incident Occurrence Date: 2007/06/06
Occurrence Time: 0121 Z Day Or Night: day-time
Fatalities: 0 Injuries:

Canadian Aerodrome ID: CYZF Aerodrome Name: Yellowknife
Occurrence Location: Yellowknife (CYZF) Province: Northwest Territories
Country: CANADA World Area: North America

Reported By: NAV CANADA AOR Number: 80865-V2
TSB Class Of Investigation: TSB Occurrence No.:
Event InformationLanding gear
Declared emergency/priority
Diversion
Evacuation (aircraft)
Overshoot/missed approach
Aircraft InformationFlight #: TSH 447
Aircraft Category: Aeroplane Country of Registration: CANADA
Make: BELL TEXTRON - CAN Model: 206A
Year Built: 1991 Amateur Built: No
Engine Make: PRATT & WHITNEY-CAN Engine Model: PW121
Engine Type: Turbo prop Gear Type: Land
Phase of Flight: Approach Damage: Minor
Owner: REGIONAL 1 AIRLINES LTD. Operator: REGIONAL 1 AIRLINES LTD. (14665)
Operator Type: Commercial

Detail InformationUser Name: Ridley, Rod
Date: 2007/06/06
Further Action Required: No
O.P.I.: System Safety
Narrative: TSH 447, a DHC-8 with 3 crew and 5 passengers, departed Gjoa Haven for Cambridge Bay and when on approach at Cambridge, the crew could not get a safe gear down and locked indication. They elected to divert to Yellowknife, where they attempted various methods to get the nose gear to extend, without success. In a fly-by of the Tower, the nose gear was retracted and only 2 of the 4 gear doors were down. The crew then declared an emergency and landed on Runway 09, and the occupants were evacuated on the runway. There were no injuries and minimal damage to the aircraft. Runway conditions on departure from Gjoa were bare compacted snow with some slushy areas. Weather was clear and -1C. TSB report to follow.

Longtimer · Post by **Longtimer** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:56 pm

I see. CBC post was at 1522CT, just after I had checked their site. Almost a non story I guess as it took them from last night to pick up and post an article. Glad no one was hurt.

plhought · Post by **plhought** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:04 pm

Can someone explain to me why it says it was a Bell 206?

CD · Post by CD » Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:27 pm

plhought wrote:Can someone explain to me why it says it was a Bell 206?

Everything comes with a disclaimer, ya know...

Transport Canada endeavours to ensure the accuracy and integrity of the data contained within CADORS, however, the information within should be treated as preliminary, unsubstantiated and subject to change.

The record indicates that the report is from a Nav Canada AOR so the data may have been incorrectly entered?

Donald · Post by **Donald** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:06 pm

From cbc.ca:

ski_bum · Post by **ski_bum** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:38 pm

I was on the ramp there when it happened, the pilots did a great job. They circled over YK for 15 minutes to burn fuel then came in on the crosswind runway so they wouldn't shut down the active. Glad to hear that everyone was ok, I think every piece of emergency equipment in YK was there to help out.

MountainRider · Post by **MountainRider** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:04 pm

Ice. Ice was stuck in the forward wheel well (yes it's still winter) preventing the gear from coming down. They flew around for 15 minutes in an attempt to melt the ice. The pilots did do a great job in landing as there was minimal damage done. a/c should be up and running again in no time.

Rowdy · Post by **Rowdy** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:04 am

Well done boys! If whats been said is true.. they should be commended for not only a proffesional job and positive outcome.. but for being courteous to all the other operators and AC in taking the non active runway.

Cheers!

station60 · Post by **station60** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:14 pm

I got some video of this from a buddy in yzf if anybody wants it

young grasshopper · Post by **young grasshopper** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 7:43 pm

Maybe your buddy wouldn't like it posted around the net!! lol.