If a company had an OC and another company just starting out did not have an OC and was going to piggy back and pay for all the expenses for the company that had the OC should the company that had the OC move it's base from it's present location to the location of the company that is attempting to get the OC for themselves?
Is there a reason for this?
piggyback on somebody else's OC?
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"You can bomb the world to pieces, but you can't bomb it into peace!" Michael Franti- Spearhead
"Trust everyone, but cut the cards". My Grandma.
I do not have an answer to your question but I do have one of my own.
Is this question related to the others? If so, it would help to try and give all of the information instead of a bit at a time. I'm thinking that the answer might already be in one of these threads or, by putting all of the responses together, an answer may be found.
Just a thought... Good luck!
Looking for some info on OCs
Old Air Regulations (Commercial Aircraft Lease)
COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT LEASING obligations and responsibilities
commercial aircraft lease
Certificate of Registration
Crooked or smart?
Is this question related to the others? If so, it would help to try and give all of the information instead of a bit at a time. I'm thinking that the answer might already be in one of these threads or, by putting all of the responses together, an answer may be found.
Just a thought... Good luck!
Looking for some info on OCs
Old Air Regulations (Commercial Aircraft Lease)
COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT LEASING obligations and responsibilities
commercial aircraft lease
Certificate of Registration
Crooked or smart?
Helinas,
What that means is that another company may let you piggyback on their OC if there is a benefit to them to do so, namely$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Operating an aircraft is not an easy task, and those who have done the work to gain an OC will want, and should receive, compensation for their efforts. Ops manual amendments, personnel training and tracking, developing maintenance schedules, (moving a base!!!) etc., all take time and effort, and just like anything that requires time and effort, that shall be duly compensated. How much is up to the OC holder. It all boils down to the $$, thus my original post. If you're willing to pay the OC holder to move a base, and they're willing to do it for you, all that remains is to put a value on that service.
What that means is that another company may let you piggyback on their OC if there is a benefit to them to do so, namely$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Operating an aircraft is not an easy task, and those who have done the work to gain an OC will want, and should receive, compensation for their efforts. Ops manual amendments, personnel training and tracking, developing maintenance schedules, (moving a base!!!) etc., all take time and effort, and just like anything that requires time and effort, that shall be duly compensated. How much is up to the OC holder. It all boils down to the $$, thus my original post. If you're willing to pay the OC holder to move a base, and they're willing to do it for you, all that remains is to put a value on that service.
Aviation- the hardest way possible to make an easy living!
"You can bomb the world to pieces, but you can't bomb it into peace!" Michael Franti- Spearhead
"Trust everyone, but cut the cards". My Grandma.
"You can bomb the world to pieces, but you can't bomb it into peace!" Michael Franti- Spearhead
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Re: piggyback on somebody else's OC?
I'm confused? Does this mean that a company that had no OC was operating in a location on another companies OC. Now the company has moved to the location of the company with no OC and is now taking all the buisness? If so it sounds fair to me.helinas wrote:If a company had an OC and another company just starting out did not have an OC and was going to piggy back and pay for all the expenses for the company that had the OC should the company that had the OC move it's base from it's present location to the location of the company that is attempting to get the OC for themselves?
Is there a reason for this?
I know it might sound fair. But the company that has the OC which ended up registering an airplane on behalf of the company without the OC has said and is still saying that he which has the OC never got paid for the services which amounted to over $300 thousand in one year and the company that did not have the OC ended up paying all the bills and reaped this amount of money in return the company with the OC which did the work got in return some seminar training from the company without the OC until it got it's own OC.
Does this smell like a pile of s*&^. or What.
The guy with the OC expects me to believe him that he did not get compensated for moving his base , dealing with the paperwork, signing the lease for the airplane that he used on top of that registering the airplane under the company that had the OC.
YEAH RIGHT!
Has anybody heard of fraudaulent stories about other companies that have piggybacked on other companies OC and got away with it?
Does this smell like a pile of s*&^. or What.
The guy with the OC expects me to believe him that he did not get compensated for moving his base , dealing with the paperwork, signing the lease for the airplane that he used on top of that registering the airplane under the company that had the OC.
YEAH RIGHT!
Has anybody heard of fraudaulent stories about other companies that have piggybacked on other companies OC and got away with it?
My head hurts.helinas wrote: But the company that has the OC which ended up registering an airplane on behalf of the company without the OC has said and is still saying that he which has the OC never got paid for the services which amounted to over $300 thousand in one year and the company that did not have the OC ended up paying all the bills and reaped this amount of money in return the company with the OC which did the work got in return some seminar training from the company without the OC until it got it's own OC.
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o/c
$ the only reason you should piggyback on someone;s oc
is a delay in the approval of your oc
example ; you budget for 7 months from the time you file your o/c
application but due to a backlog at tc it is going to take 9 months
and now you are coming into your busy season what to do
lease out your aircraft for 2months to a 'friendly competitor "
to keep some rev coming in while the paper work battle is fought.
the reason you do not want to do this long term is your competitor will
get to know your clients and THEY already have an o/c .
so they could put you on a hole realy quickly unless you have DEEP
pockets.
is a delay in the approval of your oc
example ; you budget for 7 months from the time you file your o/c
application but due to a backlog at tc it is going to take 9 months
and now you are coming into your busy season what to do
lease out your aircraft for 2months to a 'friendly competitor "
to keep some rev coming in while the paper work battle is fought.
the reason you do not want to do this long term is your competitor will
get to know your clients and THEY already have an o/c .
so they could put you on a hole realy quickly unless you have DEEP
pockets.
