Jazz Resume File shortage

Hyster · Post by **Hyster** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:09 am

Heard the other day that there are only 50 current applicants in the Jazz workopolis system. No wonder they are hiring college kids. Or maybe they should pay more.....

Goose757 · Post by **Goose757** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:37 am

Has Jazz even hired ANY college grads? Because unless they have, I'm getting sick of people mentioning it, its getting old. Can anyone confirm?

pika · Post by **pika** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:00 am

Heard the other day that there are only 50 current applicants in the Jazz workopolis system.

Unless you have a valid source I choose to call bs on that. The money is garbage but for many I 'm sure a Dash 8 or CRJ in civilization beats a (insert airplane type here) in (insert location here).

KAG · Post by **KAG** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:51 pm

Goose757 wrote:Has Jazz even hired ANY college grads? Because unless they have, I'm getting sick of people mentioning it, its getting old. Can anyone confirm?

over a dozen or so did a walk through a few weeks back. Hired maybe not yet, but certinally going through the process.

prop2jet · Post by **prop2jet** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:54 pm

50 applicants in the Workopolis system seems a little on the light side, considering a couple of months ago they had about 300 odd to screen. It is unlikely they are that efficient. Statistically out of 300 they were expecting to hire 45 give or take.

As to the college grads:
8 have been selected for the training programme, I believe is to start in the fall. Have they been hired? The answer is NO. They still have to complete the training.

one8tee · Post by **one8tee** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:58 pm

hey prop2jet.. just curious- what makes you think they'll be treated any different then any other new hire and not "hired" until they are trained? There's a year probation for a reason...

prop2jet · Post by **prop2jet** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:21 am

I suppose if you want to be technical about it... OK, they will be hired come day 1 of Ground School. What sets them apart from anyone else hired at Jazz is that they will likely be scrutinized a lot more.

Flightlevels · Post by **Flightlevels** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:13 am

Do they get an interview at mainline like everyone else? This is one way to mitigate WJ from taking more. They lack the 1000 hrs multi PIC.

Hyster · Post by **Hyster** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:11 am

Ok, maybe my info is wrong but think about this..even if your flying a shitty plane in a shitty place who would want to be 1 number behind a kid with 200hrs? I wouldnt, not for this money.

pika · Post by **pika** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:18 am

who would want to be 1 number behind a kid with 200hrs? I wouldnt, not for this money.

How much money would you accept to be one number behind a kid with 200hrs? Or, how many hours does one need to have before you will accept one number behind him/her? What don't you understand about seniority?

Dark Helmet · Post by **Dark Helmet** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:51 pm

Here is a rumor I heard recently. Apparently some of these 200 pilots whoare getting called back from the evaluation are turning down Jazz. Again just a rumor but it would not surprise me, reducing your chances by getting on with mainline, being stuck here forever because of not having the PIC time to go anywherelse, and the fact that most pilots at Jazz don't want them here. they figure thy are better off going overseas or buliding their experince elsewhere.

As far as someone coming to Jazz and being below these 200 hour pilots. Still not a bad place to come to. Good experince that will help on geting on with WJ, CX , EK, AT etc.

rigpiggy · Post by **rigpiggy** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:46 pm

Actually the legal department put a hold on the whole college thing as nobody had thought to do a risk/reward assessment on it. Rest assured they'll probably restart the whole thing next year.

one8tee · Post by **one8tee** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:11 pm

hey rigpiggy..I'd be pretty interested to hear your source..as I smell bullshit. did they pass on their risk asessment to all the carriers in asia and europe that have been doing this sort of thing for decades, not to mention the ac guys who were hired out of college in the 70's..who are now senior captains...

Stinky · Post by **Stinky** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:05 pm

We all know that the college kids are going to miss out on some great experiences by going straight to Jazz, but if any of them turn down Jazz they should get their head examined. It would be a huge opportunity and a great way to pay off student loans.
I think they do get their heads filled with a bunch of propaganda though, why sit right seat in an RJ when you could fly an A320.

Canoehead · Post by **Canoehead** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:28 pm

Plenty of well qualified pilots out there for Jazz. Many have been offered positions but are turning it down due to 'poor pay'.

Phlyer · Post by **Phlyer** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:55 am

Canoehead wrote:Plenty of well qualified pilots out there for Jazz. Many have been offered positions but are turning it down due to 'poor pay'.

Agreed. If only all of us would take a stand against this crap and all say NO. Lots from my company going to Jazz; they are taking high time captains and are even going to lower time fo's.

rigpiggy · Post by **rigpiggy** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:55 am

I really don't give a RA what your ass smells like, trust me or Don't, My sources will always remain confidential. I'm fairly sure that my past posts carry greater weight than your 3. Oh and Asian and European carriers tend to run under a different litigation system than North America. AC in the 70's wasn't getting sued for hot coffee spilled in turbulence.

one8tee wrote:hey rigpiggy..I'd be pretty interested to hear your source..as I smell bullshit. did they pass on their risk asessment to all the carriers in asia and europe that have been doing this sort of thing for decades, not to mention the ac guys who were hired out of college in the 70's..who are now senior captains...

KAG · Post by **KAG** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:23 am

It's sad really. Back in the day when the regionals were sperate, I wanted nothing more then to fly a Dash or 146 for Nova and flog around the east making good money. Now Jazz is nothing more then a stepping stone. A very good stepping stone I might add.

tonysoprano · Post by **tonysoprano** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:43 am

oh paleeese!

Flightlevels · Post by **Flightlevels** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:51 am

Hey Tony, typically how many wheelchairs do you need to get the rest of your crew from the airplane to the crew shuttle?

tonysoprano · Post by **tonysoprano** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:26 am

FL.
Sorry dude. In my world the shuttle bus meets me at the airplane. No w/c required.

Flightlevels · Post by **Flightlevels** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:54 am

my eyes must be failing! We share the same hotel in Maui.

KAG · Post by **KAG** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:04 pm

tonysoprano wrote:oh paleeese!

It is, a great stepping stone to WJ, Cathy and other over seas. Shame though AC doesnt pick up more Jazz drivers.

tonysoprano · Post by **tonysoprano** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:21 pm

Kag.
I have to agree. AC should hire mostly from Jazz. Still, I don't think Jazz people who are happy to be there appreciate your comments. I know you're HAPPY now, but believe it or not, others can be just as HAPPY. Just because things didn't work out for you at mainline doesn't mean you have to be-little Jazz. Haven't we been through this already? Jazz people are happy too. What's best is they don't have to go looking for lost wallets or put crying babies to sleep or be HAPPY owners to prove it like you have to. KAG, we know you're HAPPY, the fact is, we don't care.

tonysoprano · Post by **tonysoprano** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:28 pm

Flightlevels wrote: my eyes must be failing! We share the same hotel in Maui.

FL.
Oh!! Maui. Yah that's senior alright. They are about to retire and yes, wheelchairs would be appreciated. I was refering to the Europe crowd.