Are YOU H-CORE?!?

app flap · Post by **app flap** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:40 pm

after doing some reading about the more specialized areas of work in the aviation industry, i started to wonder what is the toughest line of work for a pilot (work load, danger, etc.)

could be an interesting conversation.

tofo · Post by **tofo** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:49 pm

everyone has their specilty, but ultimatly if theres a job that a hundred people have done, chances are that a hundred more could do it. the real question is how much do they make. I flew for an airshow now that's where the real money is. 5.5 hrs air time $5000 for a 182.

I was asked to give the check to the owner

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:12 pm

Chit, I thought this was about porn.

sky's the limit · Post by **sky's the limit** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:30 pm

There is of course but one correct answer here, and it doesn't involve airplanes.

For those of you who don't believe me, you're welcome to come for a ride along anytime you wish.

stl

Rowdy · Post by **Rowdy** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:33 pm

I gotta give it to some of those fling wing guys. INTENSE! heli logging and long lines and al that kinda jazz.. wow..

However.. the spray and bomber pilots are pretty hardcore too..

Anyone low level for that matter.. a LOT of concentration and good foresight and hand-eye co-ordination.

flyinphil · Post by **flyinphil** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:00 pm

Anybody that earns their pay in close proximity to the ground all day is hard-core. Come to think of it, just about anybody flying in a specialty role is pretty hard-core be it civilian, military, fixed wing or rotary, piston or turbine.

Rowdy · Post by **Rowdy** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:05 pm

Careful STL.. I might just take you up on that offer..

sky's the limit · Post by **sky's the limit** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:24 pm

Rowdy wrote:Careful STL.. I might just take you up on that offer..

Absolutely anytime you wish Rowdy.

Head west, hit the mountains, fourth big river on the right. I even have a lake I can pick you up at.

Could be an interesting conversation, but this isn't really the right board for it as most people here haven't done enough of the options to really know what they're talking about. As can be evidenced by the two SPIFR votes already.

Hope you're enjoying the new job, and remember, it's a ride for a ride... Now if I could just find you some dual controls.....

stl

Rowdy · Post by **Rowdy** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:58 pm

You should know i'm now not a fan of hills

All I can do for ya is the throw over column.. theres no pedals on the co-joe side!

twotter · Post by **twotter** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:21 pm

Just let him sit in the left seat.. Come on, how hard is it to fly a beaver? I'm sure even a fling winger could handle it on a good day..

Just don't let him try to hover it unless it's blowing over 45...

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:56 am

I fly outside loops at the surface, in wing-tip formation ...

And my vote is for rotary wing. Now that's real hands-on flying

Rockie · Post by **Rockie** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:53 am

I know that what I do isn't.

sky's the limit · Post by **sky's the limit** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:29 am

twotter wrote:Just let him sit in the left seat.. Come on, how hard is it to fly a beaver? I'm sure even a fling winger could handle it on a good day..

Just don't let him try to hover it unless it's blowing over 45...

Thanks twotter....

But I do have several thousand hours in FW too.... Lol, but no Beaver time specifically, so come on over Rowdy I'd love to give it a go.

Hedely,

The offer is most definitely open to you too, one outside loop for an hour in the helicopter up on a glacier somewhere... Deal? I did some aerobatics early in my FW career, but it's been a long time, and it was all pretty beginner stuff, thanks for the Vote though.Lol

I got some videos with a helemt cam the other day, wish I could post them on here, at least give you an idea.

stl

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:43 am

but no Beaver time

Fortunately I never let my desire to fly interfer with getting lots of Beaver time.....in fact I flew to finance it.

CAL · Post by **CAL** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:41 am

I didnt see airline pilot in there? Damn hard work dodging thunderstorms!

D5GRVTY · Post by **D5GRVTY** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:27 pm

I didnt see airline pilot in there? Damn hard work dodging thunderstorms!

Thank you, geeeeezzz, do you have any idea how hard it is to fight back the boredom?

merlin · Post by **merlin** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:02 pm

who is voting for single pilot IFR?

sky's the limit · Post by **sky's the limit** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:09 pm

merlin wrote:who is voting for single pilot IFR?

My thoughts exactly.

It's what I was saying earlier, the average Avcan poster has no idea what's actually out there in the wonderful world of aviation. When SPIFR is "hardcore," we're in trouble....

Maybe it's just indicative of of the level of aviator we are producing here in Canada???

stl

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:21 pm

When SPIFR is "hardcore," we're in trouble....

When " any " IFR is hard core something has truly gone wrong in aviation.....especially in todays world of IFR.

Maybe it's just indicative of of the level of aviator we are producing here in Canada???

What other answer could there be?

Pilots are a strange tribe, I'm looking for pilots and we are paying about $85,000.00 Canadian tax free for eight months work......and I am still being told that is not enough, yet they flock to companies that pay around $24,000 gross and have to pay their taxes on that.

Weird industry.

lyncher · Post by **lyncher** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:43 pm

my bad, i thought it was the hardcorest thing you've done! lol, i retract my single ifr vote and i would have to say rotary....... that shizznit looks tough.... specially those S&R guys that go out in storms to save people.

. ._ · Post by **. ._** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:11 pm

Cat Driver wrote:Pilots are a strange tribe, I'm looking for pilots and we are paying about $85,000.00 Canadian tax free for eight months work......and I am still being told that is not enough, yet they flock to companies that pay around $24,000 gross and have to pay their taxes on that.

Cat, I love ya man, but I gotta call BS on that one.

There's a million pilots out there that'll take that- they all have 200 hours.

-istp

ch135146 · Post by **ch135146** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:08 pm

I suggest helicopter SAR.

I flew choppers out of CFB Gagetown in support of the army. Then, I flew fixed wing SAR in the Buffalo out of Summerside and Trenton.

Whenever the helo boys and girls went offshore to do a rescue, the protocol was to have a Buf or Aurora go to help coordinate things. I always felt in awe seeing a helicopter hovering over the deck of a pitching deck in the Atlantic. And, of viewing the brave SAR Techs who hoisted down to help.

Rockie · Post by **Rockie** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:17 pm

ch135146 wrote:I suggest helicopter SAR.

I flew choppers out of CFB Gagetown in support of the army. Then, I flew fixed wing SAR in the Buffalo out of Summerside and Trenton.

Whenever the helo boys and girls went offshore to do a rescue, the protocol was to have a Buf or Aurora go to help coordinate things. I always felt in awe seeing a helicopter hovering over the deck of a pitching deck in the Atlantic. And, of viewing the brave SAR Techs who hoisted down to help.

Me too. And to the word hardcore I would add the word dedicated. It's been my pleasure to know a SAR tech or two, and these are formidable people.

app flap · Post by **app flap** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:13 pm

how come nobody's defending the spifr? sure SAR is tough - not a doubt, but you have a whole crew of highly trained people onboard who you can depend on - not naysaying... just pointing it out...

not trying to pick fights - just trying to stir it up, as bob would say.

sky's the limit · Post by **sky's the limit** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:01 pm

App flap,

You can take the military SAR out of the equation then, go to the civil guys who do the same jobs in many countries, including our own. Or you can take the myriad of other helicopter applications where you're completely on your own in extremely unforgiving terrain/weather just doing your job....

I've been SPIFR in countries where I don't even speak the language on the radio - it's not hard. You operate in a system designed for your safety, one that sees millions of people transported without incident on a daily basis, hard core it's not. Good stir though!

stl

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