My IFR has expired, over 5 years and I have to redo the written in Hamilton or Toronto. Can anyone help me get through this, ie: has anyone recently written it, questions. I have the AeroCourse IFR book, but man alot of question, LOL.
DO the aerocourse book!! Lots of questions, but it will prepare you. If you can do well on those exercises, you will have no problem with the real one.
As far as suggestions, read the COM section in the AIP with regards to GPS information. I had a lot of GPS questions on mine, including several GPS approaches. Do NOT study the GPS info from the IPM, as it is not updated.
Good luck.
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DO the aerocourse book!! Lots of questions, but it will prepare you. If you can do well on those exercises, you will have no problem with the real one.
had a lot of GPS questions on mine, including several GPS approaches. Do NOT study the GPS info from the IPM, as it is not updated.
To bad aerocourse doesn't have more info on GPS in the course and/or the workbook.
If you did your CPL already and passed w/ an 80.. The INRAT will be a joke..
i did my commerical and INRAT years ago...should i basically study the questions and answers in the aerocourse book then...are they very close to the real ones?
thanks
thanks guys, i baught the book yesterday and kind of went through it today, with about 80% success on it..has anyone gone very recently or known of anyone.
I did mine back in december. The only problem with the aerocourse book is the lack of GPS questions. Apart from that, it is very representative of the real exam.
As was mentionned above, know the AIP (not just RAC 6-10, but read over AGA, COM, MET, AIR) and know the CAP-GEN very well. I got a few questions that came out of the AIP that were obscure (ex. when are you not required to read back a takeoff clearance... what is the width of a glideslope/localizer beam, etc).
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I did mine back in december. The only problem with the aerocourse book is the lack of GPS questions. Apart from that, it is very representative of the real exam.
As was mentionned above, know the AIP (not just RAC 6-10, but read over AGA, COM, MET, AIR) and know the CAP-GEN very well. I got a few questions that came out of the AIP that were obscure (ex. when are you not required to read back a takeoff clearance... what is the width of a glideslope/localizer beam, etc).
So C-HRIS, when are you not required to read back a T/O clearance?
If you do not know the "exact" width of the ILS glidescope/localizer beam you will never be able to do an ILS approach.
Never take it for granted that any of these questions have no importance.
We sometimes become complacent and start to think that a lot of these TC questions are not important knowledge to have, but they were thought up by the very best that aviation has to offer, so remember you need to know the correct answer or you will never be able to fly IFR.
Cat
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I do know that TC has a mandate to have a 27% failure rate, I got that right from the top guy in Flight Training in Ottawa when I owned a flight school.
Cat
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According to RAC 6.0 of the AIP, you do not need to readback your t/o clearance if:
- you receive the clearance on the ground prior to takeoff.
- you are departing a controlled airport.
- there is a SID included in the clearance.
In this case, all that is required is for you to say your call sign/flight number and your sqwuak code.
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I'm about to write my INRAT as well.... Everyone keeps telling me to know GPS really well... but someone just mentioned that the IPM is out of date. Is there a good book that any of you would suggest reading or should I just study the AIP?
All you need to know in regards to GPS can be found in the AIP. Read COM 3.16 to 3.169. Also, read AIC 7/04. Finally, know the flight planning rules and regs that apply to GPS alternates (RAC 3.0).
Do NOT use the IPM. I did, and I got many wrong.
Good luck.
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Uh could someone fill me in here? I used the instrument procedures manual when i got my instrument rating. I still use the same procedures. As far as i know there has not been a revolution in instrument flying techniques. Maybe i just missed out?
According to RAC 6.0 of the AIP, you do not need to readback your t/o clearance if:
- you receive the clearance on the ground prior to takeoff.
- you are departing a controlled airport.
- there is a SID included in the clearance.
In this case, all that is required is for you to say your call sign/flight number and your sqwuak code.
The way I interpreted that part is an IFR clearance need not be read back. One thing is to copy and read back a clearance, and another is to ignore the TWR when they clear you for t/o. I though the question stated "when are you not required to read back your t/o clearance"
My INRAT expired as well, just wondering if my old Aerocourse is still o.k to use I had it for 5-6 years, but then again if you say it hasn't changed much from then except for the GPS, then it should still be good. Guess I answered my own question!
My instrument rating was years ago... I need to write the INRAT again. After I write the INRAT, do I really need to do a renewal at the flight school, or will the instrument renewal / PPC cover it?
Seems to me that I should be ok, and I should not hand J Mo any more of my money than I need to.
You do not need to readback the full clearance, but you must still acknowledge the tower. This can be done by saying your call sign/flight number and your sqwuak code, as opposed to saying everything they said to you.
In regards to my comments about the IPM... I implied that you should no refer to it for the GPS questions. The IPM is good for everything else; althogh, some stuff is out of date, especially the GPS stuff. You MUST use the AIP along with the IPM.
As far as aerocourse goes... I used it, and I really liked it. It helped a lot, especially with the met and planning sections. Again, the only thing lacking is there is not much on GPS. Just read the sections in the AIP, and you should be okay. Also, review some GPS approaches in a CAP.
A PPC should count for the renewal of the IFR; at least, that is what I have been told.
Good luck to everyone writing the INRAT,
Chris.
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CHRIS, I think you're getting lost in your own misunderstanding with regards to the "Take-off Clearance".
You are not required to read back all of your "IFR Clearance" that you receive from Clearance Delivery/Ground/Tower/Flight Service/Centre (whoever you're speaking to at this time). This is the clearance you call for before taxi or take off. If a "Full Readback is required" you will be informed by the person providing you with that clearance. If not, then you need only to readback the squawk code and SID, etc.
What you seem to be confusing this "IFR Clearance" with is the "Take-Off Clearance" given by a tower while you're at the hold short line, ready for take off. If you do not read this one back, the tower will hound you to read it back and make you look like a jackass until you do.
Tango was just being a smartass because you were being a dumbass on this one.
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Hey peeps, im taking the Comm pilot course at SIAST in saskatoon its a very intense GS on IFR..were referring to the IPM a lot. Should we be? How much of that exam is GPS, cause we have not covered anything on GPS yet.....
Guilden, I would suggest reading the AIP, COM section. 3.16 and AIC 7/04. The AIC is a summarization of section 3.16 but there was material from the COM 3.16 on the exam that wasn't found in the AIC circular.
Overall I would say get yourself pretty familiar with the GPS material because the exam has to test people who would use GPS in the IFR world.
Plus I've heard this from a few other people also... also as mentioned above the RAC section...
ADF tracking questions, cold corrections, lots of minima stuff....
