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flyin' fish wrote:oh, and btw, the incident to St. Maarten had to do with an MEL on the bleed valve. The aircraft was restricted to FL250 and required a fuel stop. The reason for massive delay and overnight in NAS, not SMX, was far more complex. That's the past.
Who hasn't had a Gong Show day like that before? No one is immune to mechanicals.

Now back to the drama....


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(I really didn't think this Forum could get worse)
What if I pasted a picture of me in my undies?
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I don't understand this....
Why does everybody think that this Ken Rowe guy is special in halifax??? Ya sure, I have met him before. Was not impressed...
People from Haifax keep talking about him as if he was great??

Ya, I did loose my job at C6. Didn't affect me at all because I was still in school and living at home.
But apparently C6 was not loosing money....just breaking even...

Now....how can you dump 500 jobs just like that??? He is no Leblanc, but still!
My oponion...

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First of all, Ken Rowe is a fantastic businessman he knows how to turn profits for IMP, and when something isn't making money it may as well lose money.

You will be quick to learn young ICEMAN that Ken Rowe, nor Michel Leblanc were the first, nor are they the last to do such a thing.

Ken Rowe however did it for the financial prosperity of IMP group, while Michel Leblanc did it for his own private prosperity, and he's not the first guy to make a fortune opening and running airlines into the ground.
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jonny dangerous wrote:
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What if I pasted a picture of me in my undies?

........... how about a shot of my wrinkled arse. The fish and that Ice guy are right, I have been opening my trap a tad too much on this issue so I will take all my marbles(what's left cause I lost most of them - old age) and go. Won't bother y'all on this particular post any more. I will even tell the other wrinkled arses that I pal around with to clam up about CJ as well- leave'em alone. Who knows, there could even be less of our wrinkled arses on CJ's new NG(s) as they head south to the sunny/warm destinations. :(
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jonny dangerous wrote:
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What if I pasted a picture of me in my undies?

I think I've already seen it in the Spounge Bob Square Pants video on your Facebook :)
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Fantastic business?? Sure...I.M.P is a great company! But you dont base an airline in a region where there are 1.5 million people srpead across four provinces...
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more like 2.5 million people now. The East coast needs something soon. Booming here now and will continue for a long time.
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Actually its 2.28 million, just got figures from statscan website, Man i'm bored as @#$!!
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At the time C3 started it was around 1.5. Then a bit more when C6 started...
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THEICEMAN wrote:Fantastic business?? Sure...I.M.P is a great company! But you dont base an airline in a region where there are 1.5 million people srpead across four provinces...
Who cares?? The flying is taking place in Toronto, Montreal, Quebec city and few others for shorter times like Moncton and Fredricton. There's is alot of demand still out of Halifax, and who knows, St. John's might be on the radar. Charter means you go where the business demands, despite where your base is. So far with this plan, the suites in IMP are happy with what's happening.
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Flying Fish...I was not talking about C6 charter operations. I am talking about when C6 was running scheduled flights out of YHZ.

I believe that YHZ has great potential for summer routes like: YHZ-STN or LGW, YHZ-GLA, YHZ-MAN

AC has very good yields on the YHZ-LHR & YYT-LHR
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I believe that YHZ has great potential for summer routes like: YHZ-STN or LGW, YHZ-GLA, YHZ-MAN

AC has very good yields on the YHZ-LHR & YYT-LHR
The yield is so good on YYT-LHR that AC cancelled the route.

Is your 3rd cousin's boyfriend's half sister who works in route planning and lavatory matce for AC giving you bad info?
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Huge Hammer wrote:
I believe that YHZ has great potential for summer routes like: YHZ-STN or LGW, YHZ-GLA, YHZ-MAN

AC has very good yields on the YHZ-LHR & YYT-LHR
The yield is so good on YYT-LHR that AC cancelled the route.

Is your 3rd cousin's boyfriend's half sister who works in route planning and lavatory matce for AC giving you bad info?
Just to play devils advocate, that doesn't guarantee the yields were bad, just re-allocation of aircraft to another route perhaps during the summer months?

I honestly have no knowledge either way, but doesn't WJA do the same with seasonal routines?
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I would think a route that, according to THEICEMAN, had very good yields and no competition, especially since Astreus pulled the plug would be kept on and not have the aircraft redeployed somewhere else for summer flying.
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If you counted the thread that was removed prior to this one it would be well over 1000!
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AC cut the route because of other reasons......too many cheap tickets.
Didn't make any money. No first class tickets sold....which is soo vital to make $$ with their cost structure.
Anyways...YYT-STN would be a weekly thing..

YHZ-STN or LGW is a good summer time route!
AC has a 763 year round.....don't think it makes money in winter???
There is lots of demand on the route..

Anyways...that's the past...too late for C6 since they already committed to charters....
Only if they pick up a Transat contract???
It's only 2881 miles. the 737Ng can do it!

Quote from A.NET...very interesting!

"Air Canada knows how many passengers travel between Newfoundland and London. They have been flying the route for around 60 years!!!

The whole YYT-LHR A319 project was a very expensive experiment, and the outcome was pretty well cast in stone ... the business just isn't there. However, until a dedicated aircraft was placed on the route, there was no way to "prove" the business wasn't there. When the B767 flew YHZ-YYT-LHR, the YHZ station and the YYT station were competing for seats on the YYT-LHR-YYT sector, thus the leg was usually full.

In fact there is so much demand for the YHZ-LHR route, some passengers were travelling YHZ-YYT to get on the A319, YYT-LHR, when the nonstop was full.

Of course the big question, is why does Air Canada have to "prove" anything??? It appears that Canadians still haven't figured out that Air Canada is no longer a crown corporation!"
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Kandoo wrote:If you counted the thread that was removed prior to this one it would be well over 1000!
True, let's have that party then!! :drinkers:
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THEICEMAN wrote:AC cut the route because of other reasons......too many cheap tickets.
Didn't make any money. No first class tickets sold....which is soo vital to make $$ with their cost structure.
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I thought you said they had good yields.
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YHZ-STN or LGW is a good summer time route!
AC has a 763 year round.....don't think it makes money in winter???
There is lots of demand on the route..
WTF does any of that even mean?

Why is it a good summer route? Nobody seems to be flying it.
AC has a 763 year round. Where? Doing what? Flying where?
So much demand? Says who?
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Becuase I have personally seen the numbers before. Besides that, they keep a 763 year round between YHZ-LHR
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oopss. sorry wrong choice of wrongs...

I meant to say, they had good loads on the YYT-LHR
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You said "AC has very good yields on the YHZ-LHR & YYT-LHR" then you said "AC cut the route because of other reasons......too many cheap tickets. Didn't make any money. No first class tickets sold....which is soo vital to make $$ with their cost structure". Now you're saying they had good loads. You seem a little confused.
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ya a bit...sorry..not the best

Both Yhz & Yyt had good loads....but not good yields on YYT....good on Yhz-LHR

Read the following...it explains everything pretty well!
from A.NET
"Air Canada knows how many passengers travel between Newfoundland and London. They have been flying the route for around 60 years!!!

The whole YYT-LHR A319 project was a very expensive experiment, and the outcome was pretty well cast in stone ... the business just isn't there. However, until a dedicated aircraft was placed on the route, there was no way to "prove" the business wasn't there. When the B767 flew YHZ-YYT-LHR, the YHZ station and the YYT station were competing for seats on the YYT-LHR-YYT sector, thus the leg was usually full.

In fact there is so much demand for the YHZ-LHR route, some passengers were travelling YHZ-YYT to get on the A319, YYT-LHR, when the nonstop was full.

Of course the big question, is why does Air Canada have to "prove" anything??? It appears that Canadians still haven't figured out that Air Canada is no longer a crown corporation!"
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IceMan

Why not try slowing down on before you post.

Type it out, then read it.... go get something to drink (not coffee) come back read it again, if it looks ok, post, then read it again, if it looks bad try hitting the edit button to fix any grammatical or incorrect ICAO airport codes you put down.
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