Another Q400 gear malfunction

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Another Q400 gear malfunction

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An SAS Dash 8 attempted an emergency landing at approx 16.00 local time.

Apparently it was an unsafe gear warning that initiated the emergency landing.

The landing gear seemed to be down, but collapsed 1-2 seconds after touchdown.

The right wing and engine contacted the ground, the wing broke and caught fire.

The fire was quickly put out by the fire department and all 76 passengers got out safely.

This is really not good for Canadian aviition....Embraer is already kicking our ass in the RJ market now....Hope this matter does not influence operators to go with ATR in the long run.
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Good thing they evacuated a couple of rows:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... ident.html
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Post by midwingcrisis »

If there were 69 pax on board, where did they re seat them before landing?
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Post by Bravo1Six »

midwingcrisis wrote:If there were 69 pax on board, where did they re seat them before landing?
Some of SAS' Q400s are being reconfigured for 76 seats (from 72). Not sure if this aircraft had been reconfigured yet, but reports suggested that all of rows 4,5 and 6 were evacuated prior to landing.
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Post by Redwine »

Yet ANOTHER SAS Q-400 accident just a few hours ago:

Scandinavian Airlines regrets to confirm that one of its aircraft, a Dash 8-400 (Q400) with flight number SK2748 from Copenhagen to Palanga (Lithuania) has been involved in an accident. The aircraft experienced technical difficulties and the crew decided to divert to Vilnius Airport (Lithuania) where the accident occurred at 01:36 hrs local time today.

Although no further details of the accident are available at the moment we can confirm that there are 48 passengers and 4 crew onboard. All passengers were evacuated after landing and no injuries are reported.

A team of specially trained SAS personnel is currently on its way to Vilnius to assist all passengers and crew.

The Canadian manufacturer of Dash 8-400, Bombardier, is in the process of developing an inspection programme. As a precautionary measure, Bombardier is highly recommending that all aircraft worldwide of this type with 10,000 landing gear cycles or more will be grounded until the recommended inspection is carried out.

Scandinavian Airlines and Widerøe have already decided to ground the entire fleet of Dash 8-400 aircraft until further notice. No aircraft will be released for operations until these inspections have been carried out on all aircraft.

All tickets on Scandinavian Airlines flights booked until Sunday 16 September may be rebooked. Inquiries about rebooking shall be directed to the place of purchase.

Information about cancelled flights can be found here.


Bombardier to ground world wide Q fleet with 10.000+ to/landings. (aprx60)
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Post by Speedbird Junior »

Head of Lithuanian CAA reporting aircraft diverted to Vilnius and right gear collapse on touch down...couple of pictures on the link below...

http://www.alfa.lt/pictureGallery.do?articleId=150004
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Post by Troy_K »

Very strange that the same kind of landing gear failure would happen so close together with the same airline. Something that makes you go hmmmmm!
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Post by bmc »

Bombardier is recommending the grounding of Q400's with more than 10,000 hrs (or is it cycles).

Austrian has grounded their entire fleet today.
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Post by bobcaygeon »

SAS had lots of maintenance issues early in the -400 life but they found that only the most jr. ame's worked on it and that was part of the problem. The sr. ame's didn't want to work on a turboprop. Sounds like an operator issue. Where I work we had every FA seatbelt installed wrong after the a/c came out of a "C" check. Same guy was installing the seatbelts his way so.... Looks like a BBD is just covering there butts.
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bobcaygeon wrote:SAS had lots of maintenance issues early in the -400 life but they found that only the most jr. ame's worked on it and that was part of the problem. The sr. ame's didn't want to work on a turboprop. Sounds like an operator issue. Where I work we had every FA seatbelt installed wrong after the a/c came out of a "C" check. Same guy was installing the seatbelts his way so.... Looks like a BBD is just covering there butts.
Two gear collapses in two days sounds like operator issues? I don't get it.
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Post by bobcaygeon »

There's 160 D8-400's in service with 60 over 10,000 t/o & landings. SAS operates 27. Why are only they having these main gear collapses? It is a question that has to be asked
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Post by rigpiggy »

I believe JALWays, had a gear incident this summer. cmiiw
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rigpiggy wrote:I believe JALWays, had a gear incident this summer. cmiiw
Nose gear I believe for JAL, these were both r/h MLG
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Post by g5 »

Just do whatever the checklist/SOP says. If you had an accident due to the fact that you shut a perfectly good engine down...
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