Here's an idea...
Run a company that people don't want to leave from as quick as they start. Improve your hiring practices - if you repeatedly hire flakes who don't keep their word you are just as much at fault when they leave.
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FlightFX
OK.... Benwa, you've never owned your own company and had guys repeatedly use you for your training only to piss off and go some where else after they assured you of their word they'd sick around for a FULL year.
Now, what would you do in that position, how would you get guys to stay in that seat? More money? What if you don't have more to give?
Avaiation is not a money maker, go play in the stocks if you want to get rich quick!
Well thats your own fault than, if you pay'd more money than people would stick around. Now if you can't afford to pay more, well than you have issuses as a company hence why you are making them pay for there training.
Doc
They are NOT getting it, because they still want money up front! And, if YOU think they're getting it....then YOU aren't getting it!
Hey Doc, Thunder does not require money up front, and recently they have learned there lesson as they introduced a new pay scale, that IF you do stick it out for 3 years it's 70K, 4 years 75K, and 5 years 80K. Plus on that you get a 5K bonus at year end after your there for 2 years and every year there after. There benefit package is well for a company of its size, amazing.Doc
Thunder IS a way better way to go than VAL. For sure. But, they have yet to worry about recurrent training. The same folks you speak of with 500 MPIC, tend to "bug out" the moment their year is up!
Long term, the way things are going, they will have to find a way to keep pilots around. Nobody can afford to train a whole new batch of pilots every year! Paying pilots WELL is FAR cheaper than hiring new ones every year. But I don't think they get it.
Now you get that to fly a king air or a MU-2, if you ask me thats pretty damn good. Its just to bad that it did take them along time to learn this and I do hope that it lasts and other companies like VAL, Bearskin, etc follow suit and do the same.
AC/Jazz, Sunwing, etc I think would have a hard time finding guys if all companies started to pay this and would force them to raise the salaries[/quote]
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MaxPuckerFactor
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VAL could definately offer more money for certain positions. But what this company lacks most of all aside from employees, is proper, honest scheduling, and communication. They make it difficult for people to plan their own lives when guys and girls don't know what they're doing or when they're doing it. They are not offering a lifestyle on a consistent level that they seem to be advertising. And of course the more people that leave the more challenging it becomes to keep consistent rotations. I beleive this is the reason people are cutting lose more so than for monetary reasons. Hopefully one of these days VAL and similar companies will treat people with the general courtesy of honesty and communication.
Just my two cents
Just my two cents
You're absolutely right, it’s all about the lake of honesty and communication. I have worked for them more than a year in Africa and that was the problem. They are not very far from being an "OK" company, but you don't feel that you have the control of your life with them. It's also very annoying when you send email to your chief pilot and he don't answer because he is too busy doing the job of a human resource department, a chief pilot and a regular pilot at the same time.MaxPuckerFactor wrote:VAL could definately offer more money for certain positions. But what this company lacks most of all aside from employees, is proper, honest scheduling, and communication. They make it difficult for people to plan their own lives when guys and girls don't know what they're doing or when they're doing it. They are not offering a lifestyle on a consistent level that they seem to be advertising. And of course the more people that leave the more challenging it becomes to keep consistent rotations. I beleive this is the reason people are cutting lose more so than for monetary reasons. Hopefully one of these days VAL and similar companies will treat people with the general courtesy of honesty and communication.
Just my two cents
