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Johnny Reb
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Post by Johnny Reb »

I also just got this letter and I interviewed at the beginning of July. My references were checked at about the 6 week mark. I also have the same questions regarding what this letter really means as it sort of puts you into a holding pattern as to what to do with your life.

Is there anybody here who interviewed after the end of June who was actually offered a course date?
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Post by pinkus »

Got the good letter today. Early July interview. Ref's checked at 6 weeks. Letter arrived 9 weeks plus 2.

Offers a little relief. Good luck to all.

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Post by Beachparty »

Have you made the interview or testing first ??
As "pending medical" that mean that they will contact you to fix a date or you already have you date ?
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Post by Sultan »

Another one waiting here. Interviewed late July with no references checked as of yet. No letter either. Is it a little early to start biting the nails yet?
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Post by HavaJava »

Another "competitive candidate" here. Interviewed mid-july and references checked 6 weeks later.
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Post by picwally »

Still no word yet...
What kind of experience do the ones who obtained the good letter have regarding the ones who got the bad one?
Just wondering if there's a trend here... :?
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Post by 2low »

:oops:
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Post by picwally »

ok?! :?
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what about the re-apply people

Post by ccbor »

Just wondering about the people who recieved the re-apply letters this summer. Since, mainline won't interview any more applicants after this month untill next spring. What pile do these the people fall in to? ( lets say.. some were getting hired.) Might they still get hired up over the winter or not?

Wondering

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What does it mean to pre-board? Do you get on before you get on?
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Post by HavaJava »

I think if you received a "re-apply in 6 months" letter then you will have to interview and re-test again at some point. I don't think you are in the pool at this point unless you are one of the "qualified candidates".

As for my time, I consider myself to be very lucky. 3000TT 2000PIC 800Multi-turbine PIC.
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Post by squawk 7600 »

HavaJava,

I'm guessing from those times you don't have much in the way of 12,500 multi-turbine pic? Is your multi-turbine PIC mainly King Air? Just curious.
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Post by Beachparty »

Anyone interviewed late july got news ??? good or not ?
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Post by airliner »

Had my interview on july 18th, and recieved a PFO untill later on my seventh week to the day.
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Post by priceless »

interviewed mid july, got the "competitive candidate" week 6 and then the email explaining that their full until the end of the year
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Post by ccbor »

priceless wrote:interviewed mid july, got the "competitive candidate" week 6 and then the email explaining that their full until the end of the year

Hello,


Can you expalin "competitive candidate" and what that entails?


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Post by priceless »

basically like the others above. not a PFO but a letter stating that your a competitive candidate thus far and that when the time comes to hire they will look throught the list of "competitve candidates" and go from there, at least thats how I interpret it. anyone else have any ideas?
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Post by pitot »

Bor, just an fyi, but I have an interview set up late Oct. Also indicated in the times I could have choose from were 2 or 3 other dates in Oct. Only 1 in late Sept.

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Post by Brick Head »

ccbor wrote:

Hello,


Can you explain "competitive candidate" and what that entails?


Bor
Imagine a room that only holds 200 " competitive candidates" ( I picked 200 out of thin air)

Every individual who meets the benchmarks on all phases of the interview process gets to go in to the room.

Everyone in this room stands in a line based on their over all score.

The next course requiring 15 takes the top 15.

Individuals keep interviewing, and re gigging of the line continually takes place based on individual scores. It is possible to be new to the room with a real high score and go to the front of the line. It is also possible to have a score barely above benchmark and never get far enough along the line to be called for ground school.

If the room gets too full? If competitive candidates out pace hiring then the room will exceed 200. If the room exceeds 200 then the lowest score individuals are removed from the room to bring the total back to 200.

Hence the late PFO letter.

Basically when you enter the room you enter a line based on how you did relative to others in the room. As hiring and interviewing takes place you either stagnate in the line, retreat in the line and are eventually removed, or you move up the line and are hired.

HINT BIG BIG HUGE HINT

If you know someone who interviewed and got hired quickly talk to them.

It means they went to the front of the line.
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Post by windowseat »

Individuals keep interviewing, and re gigging of the line continually takes place based on individual scores. It is possible to be new to the room with a real high score and go to the front of the line. It is also possible to have a score barely above benchmark and never get far enough along the line to be called for ground school.

If the room gets too full? If competitive candidates out pace hiring then the room will exceed 200. If the room exceeds 200 then the lowest score individuals are removed from the room to bring the total back to 200.

Brick Head,
That's not what I heard. Where did you get this info from?
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Post by TyrellCorp »

windowseat wrote:
Individuals keep interviewing, and re gigging of the line continually takes place based on individual scores. It is possible to be new to the room with a real high score and go to the front of the line. It is also possible to have a score barely above benchmark and never get far enough along the line to be called for ground school.

If the room gets too full? If competitive candidates out pace hiring then the room will exceed 200. If the room exceeds 200 then the lowest score individuals are removed from the room to bring the total back to 200.

Brick Head,
That's not what I heard. Where did you get this info from?
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I would say Brick Head has it spot on. That is also my understanding of how it works.
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Post by windowseat »

Sure, but where are you hearing this from? My buddy got one of those letters and said that the hiring lady told him that the first people in the pool will be the first people to leave the pool...
Maybe you should check your source.
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Post by The Hammer »

WindowSeat your dreaming buddy!!! Would you choose the fat chick just because she got in the pool first if Pamela Anderson showed up later. AC bought your friend a drink (minimal investment) just to keep the door open but they will keep on taking home the Pamela Anderson's as long as they keep walking thru the door.

Your statement might be correct if you add "all other things being equal"
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Post by Brick Head »

windowseat wrote:

Brick Head,
That's not what I heard. Where did you get this info from?
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Invited into listen to the DFO give a state of the union talk to a new hire class.

My take on the tone of the talk was that he was also trying to deflate expectations. Things are slowing down. Advancement that was experienced by those hired in the last few years is gone.
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Post by flyguycanuk »

Brick Head,

Any idea on how they score a candidate? Is it mostly based on your qualifications, or is it predominately based on how well you interviewed and peformed on the psych and cog tests?

6 Weeks and still waiting on the word.
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Post by timtim »

Any word on the AC ground schools in November? Anyone interview in August and got the call or letter?
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