NAC pay

Rotorhead · Post by **Rotorhead** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:03 pm

I was passing through Thompson last week and was surprised to see a NAC air PC12 there. I thought that they were bankrupt? Didn't they miss pay day a few times? The PC12 wasn't flying, so maybe the bank (or airport) owns it. Does anyone know if they are still operating?

sprucemonkey · Post by **sprucemonkey** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:41 pm

Ya, the bank owns it. The bank repo'd the whole fleet and hangar. Thunder Airlines has purchased everything because they've been awarded the dedicated MOH contract. The Thunder hangar has been purchased by Perimeter in preparation for their new routes that go head-to-head with Bearskin. Its all on the front page of the Winnipeg Free Press today.

Rotorhead · Post by **Rotorhead** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:44 pm

Holy cow. I didn't know NAC had a hanger!

freakonature · Post by **freakonature** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:31 pm

HAHAHAHAHAAA Thank You Sprucemonkey!!

flyinhigh · Post by **flyinhigh** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:47 pm

ROTFLMAO, hahhahahahahaahahahaah

I don't know what is funnier, spruces post or the fact that he bought it. hahhahahahahah WOW

Now folks here is a classic example of believing what you read on avcanada. Sorry to pick on you Rotor no offence but its true.
What you read on hear take with a grain of salt, unless it has something to back it up.

NAC DID NOT go bankrupt, they have just built a huge ass hanger that makes bearskin jealous in thunder bay, as far as I know(NOT SAYING ITS TRUE)they have purchased some 1900's. They have a good sched network running that yes goes into Manitoba. As far as YTH I don't know it may have been the NAPS dedicated aircraft there(Northern Police). May have been a charter.
cheers

Pie Lot · Post by **Pie Lot** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:10 pm

flyinhigh wrote: as far as I know(NOT SAYING ITS TRUE)they have purchased some 1900's.
cheers

NAC only buys 1900's in the spring. It is fall now! So the answer is..ahhhh..no!

Pie Lot · Post by **Pie Lot** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:15 pm

flyinhigh wrote: As far as YTH I don't know it may have been the NAPS dedicated aircraft there(Northern Police). May have been a charter.
cheers

Ahhh...no again.

NAPS is an Ontario based Police contract. So unless Freddy the Murderer from Keewaywin made his way to Thompson; and is being picked up on an outstanding warrant, the NAPS plane wasn't there.

NAC has a permanent base in YTH and runs a couple of scheds out of there.

ScudRunner · Post by **ScudRunner** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:37 am

Pie Lot , NAC YTH has NAPS............... in between flights wake up go buzzing around the south patch, come back to YTH get some breakfast sleep it off then go back to work.

singleburner · Post by **singleburner** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:22 am

flyinhigh wrote: NAC DID NOT go bankrupt, they have just built a huge ass hanger that makes bearskin jealous in thunder bay, as far as I know(NOT SAYING ITS TRUE)they have purchased some 1900's.

This might be the funniest thing I have read in a long time. Bearskin is not jealous of NACAir. And the 1900 thing might even be funnier....

wannabatp · Post by **wannabatp** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:41 am

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bob sacamano · Post by **bob sacamano** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:52 am

flyinhigh wrote:Now folks here is a classic example of believing what you read on avcanada.

flyinhigh wrote:NAC DID NOT go bankrupt, they have just built a huge ass hanger that makes bearskin jealous in thunder bay

flyinhigh wrote:as far as I know(NOT SAYING ITS TRUE)they have purchased some 1900's.

Yes, classic example.

Are the 1900's C or D models?

ScudRunner · Post by **ScudRunner** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:07 pm

Are you kidding they just finished shooting a movie all about NAC Air, it will be released next spring. Oh and pick up a copy ofthe November Airways Magazine they have a 5 page arctical on NAC.

flyinhigh · Post by **flyinhigh** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:30 am

. wrote:Are you kidding they just finished shooting a movie all about NAC Air, it will be released next spring. Oh and pick up a copy ofthe November Airways Magazine they have a 5 page arctical on NAC.

ROTFLMAO, hahahaha

TopperHarley · Post by **TopperHarley** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:17 am

. wrote:Are you kidding they just finished shooting a movie all about NAC Air, it will be released next spring. Oh and pick up a copy ofthe November Airways Magazine they have a 5 page arctical on NAC.

I'm pretty sure the NAC pilots (especially YTH ones) are a lot uglier and scruffier than that.

ScudRunner · Post by **ScudRunner** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:07 pm

I'm pretty sure the NAC pilots (especially YTH ones) are a lot uglier and scruffier than that.

Naw there about par for the course in YTH at least!

TopperHarley · Post by **TopperHarley** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:16 am

ScudRunner · Post by **ScudRunner** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:06 pm

NERDS!!!!

SKYPILOT1956 · Post by **SKYPILOT1956** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:57 am

Friday October 19th, 2007 is the new deadline for $95,000 required from each First Nation owner to keep NAC aircraft leases from being cancelled. Has any one heard of this deadline.

singleburner · Post by **singleburner** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:22 am

There is already one PC12 parked outside of Kelner's hangar.

Rudy · Post by **Rudy** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:50 pm

Yeah, I was going to say is this really the time to be joking about this company? Sched flights have been cut back big time. King Air's were grounded except for charters. Layoffs in upper managment. Now they've given ultimatums to the owner communites? I heard on the radio that they wanted $200,000 from each spot to continue servicing them. Maybe they got it wrong and it's only $95,000.

fasteddie · Post by **fasteddie** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:06 pm

Who got laid off?

Anonymous1 · Post by **Anonymous1** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:39 pm

Why would a native reserve invest in any airline when they are all pretty near flat broke already? With all the investment options available, an airline must be about the worst choice of all (unless they considered some shares in SW or WJ). I just don't get it....invest millions in a single investment when the very first lesson you are taught is to diversify your holdings.

Now their PC12s have no resale value due to the high cycle times, gravel ops and harsh environment. Look on Controller.com.... 10 year old, US reg, 1000 TT creampuff pavement to pavement PC12 for $3 million. That's a 2 million depreciation already from new...so what would a 15,000 hour, gravel chipped, initials carved into the seatbacks and 20,000 cycles sell for?

Sorry, but NAC is not the only airline facing problems. Look at the 3 AT802s taking away all the $27 a mile HS748 fuel runs. That EXCESSSSSSS profit is used to subsidize the 1900s running around with 1 person and a mailbag. In a few years, things are going to be surprisingly different in the north of Ontario.

fasteddie · Post by **fasteddie** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:40 pm

Remote first nations communities invest in airlines because they will be spending HUGE amounts on money on air travel each year. They can either spend those dollars on a service provided by some organization outside their community, or keep the dollars in their own municipalities and economy. It makes alot of sense.

Unfortunately, many of these airlines suffer the same as airlines on any scale or market - management wants to grow, grow, grow and the original money-making routes are overshadowed by bad routes / aircraft choices / contracts / expansion.

Anonymous1 · Post by **Anonymous1** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:09 pm

I don't understand. Why would a First Nation community choose to spend a huge amount on air travel when they could just move south to normal society and take public transit for $2 like everyone else?

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:16 pm

a First Nation community

Is a " First Nations community " different from an Indian reserve?

Could the reason they spend so much have anything to do with the billions the taxpayers give them every year?

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