Porter Pilots and the Q400

invertedattitude · Post by **invertedattitude** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:21 am

With the recent turn of events at SAS, what has been the talk around the Porter shop about the Q400? Has the maintenance changed much?

Flightlevels · Post by **Flightlevels** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:28 pm

http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/krimi/article.p ... ml?forside

ouch!

stupido · Post by **stupido** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:08 pm

Flightlevels wrote:http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/krimi/article.p ... ml?forside

ouch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRu9XkcwMx0

ouch!

Flightlevels · Post by **Flightlevels** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:22 pm

better get some thicker skin! this is aviation. How's the bond?

pointyertoes · Post by **pointyertoes** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:27 pm

invertedattitude wrote:With the recent turn of events at SAS, what has been the talk around the Porter shop about the Q400? Has the maintenance changed much?

Business is brisk, as usual. Our maintenance has not changed, they've been doing a great job since day 1.
Porter's done all the recommended inspections, regardless of how few cyles the a/c have, and have found no faults.

I've found the airplane to be very reliable and very enjoyable to fly; and I sincerely don't understand how one airline can have so many related problems with the same system in such a short time frame.
(keep in mind, the Japan incidents were user maintenance problems and the Korean incident was, well, apparently just a very mishandled landing)

ps. ...personally I haven't thought twice about my contract, I am however still deciding what to do with my first profit sharing cheque...

Dark Helmet · Post by **Dark Helmet** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:17 pm

pointyertoes wrote:
invertedattitude wrote:
ps. ...personally I haven't thought twice about my contract, I am however still deciding what to do with my first profit sharing cheque...

Pay for your bond...........nah just kidding, Congrats.

Flightlevels · Post by **Flightlevels** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:29 pm

weak.

pointyertoes · Post by **pointyertoes** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:31 pm

...we paid nothing, and there's nothing to pay if you just keep your word...

invertedattitude · Post by **invertedattitude** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:58 pm

Very glad to hear things are going well at Porter!

I think it's pretty childish for those who have bad things to say about Porter.

I guess you can hate the airline all you want, fact is there's men/women just like those at WestJet/Air Canada just trying to make a decent living finally.

I think Porter stands in a good position to give Bombardier a boost really in light of all of this.

Four1oh · Post by **Four1oh** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:00 pm

how good was the profit share?

Flightlevels · Post by **Flightlevels** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:22 pm

pointyertoes wrote:...we paid nothing, and there's nothing to pay if you just keep your word...

better keep it, didn't help the jetsgo guys.

TyrellCorp · Post by **TyrellCorp** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:05 pm

Flightlevels, you like to stir the pot eh?

Give the guys & gals at Porter a break. They like you and I are just trying to bring home a paycheck.

invertedattitude · Post by **invertedattitude** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:32 pm

I have a hard time understanding why WestJet/Air Canada pilots give any sort of a thought of animosity towards Porter's pilots.

First of all, I doubt very much you interact with them all that often considering their base of operations, and from what I heard most ATCO's hold Porter crews in a pretty high regard considering the length of their tenure so far. Considering that, I find it hard to believe they've pissed off other airlines through their professional actions, and supporting that there's been zero evidence of it presented here.

I don't understand then what exactly makes people like Flightlevels and others so irritated at their pilots? If it's the actions of Porters managment, what in gods name does that have to do with their pilots exactly?

pointyertoes · Post by **pointyertoes** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:52 pm

Flightlevels, I can only assume that either you're new to WJ or you've been there so long that you've forgotten what it's like to be at a new carrier.
If it's the former, I urge you to ask some of the true veterans of the company to remind you of what it must have been like to climb out on a limb and risk their livelihood on the dream to be part of something original, new and untainted. Ask them how much sleep they lost when the naysayers criticised them from the get go... or how much sleep they lost when Transport shut you down for no good reason.

I came to Porter after doing alot of homework, I believe in the idea and I have great respect for the managers who got the company off the ground. If anyone can make an airline succeed, it's them.
For the first time in a long while, I've found a job I love, I've been given great opportunities to learn and contribute something beyond my meager piloting skills.
I am grateful for where I am, and if powers beyond my control conspire to scuttle the airline, of course I'd be extremely disapointed, but I know I'd be a better person from the experience. It's a risk I'm happy to take.

I don't expect any pity from the flying public or from competitors because we're the underdog now. It's just business, and big or small, all airlines will suffer when the next big downcycle begins... and it's only a matter of time. Remember that when next you post trite, belittling comments to fellow pilots.

Flightlevels · Post by **Flightlevels** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:15 pm

point, I never started this pissing match, however you assumed so when I put the landing of the Q400 on the board...remember? I'm not stirring the pot only responding to someone who has thin skin and took it as a personal attack. Understandably due to the fact that your credit bureau is sitting with that debt on it. I wish you guys well.

Rotten Apple #1 · Post by **Rotten Apple #1** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:18 am

I hear an awful lot of good things about Porter from my downtown TO friends who use them regularly for business. Keep up the good work!

I had a bond at my previous employer and didn't think twice about it as I was committed to staying there for a few years. No big deal.

Glad to hear you got profit share as well. Sounds like a good job.

***edited out one paragraph as a peace offering to my friend, my colleague, my anonymous buddy FLs***

Cheers.

bmc · Post by **bmc** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:18 am

Flightlevels wrote: I wish you guys well.

No you don't.

Valhalla · Post by **Valhalla** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:05 am

Flightlevels wrote:Understandably due to the fact that your credit bureau is sitting with that debt on it.

You need to clarify what you are trying to imply here. And don't pretend you are not trying to get into a pissing match when you are throwing around insults and accusations.

stupido · Post by **stupido** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:31 am

Flightlevels wrote: ...I'm not stirring the pot only responding to someone who has thin skin and took it as a personal attack...

Don't worry my man....my skin is pretty thick and there is nothing personal...

THEICEMAN · Post by **THEICEMAN** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:53 am

How the loads these days? When is Porter gonna start EWR?

Flightlevels · Post by **Flightlevels** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:02 am

c'mon john dang, you aren't throwing around more law suits are you?..lol. I forgave you.

Metro-Sexual · Post by **Metro-Sexual** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:31 pm

Flightlevels,

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here and believe that you have been misinformed. Unlike Jetsgo there is no cash out of your own pocket training bond with Porter. Just an agreement to to pay a pro-rated amount for the training should you choose to leave prior to fulfilling your commitment.

Sure it's in place to discuorage people from taking their rating and leaving. But from what I've seen the majority of us here don't want to leave. We get treated well and enjoy our jobs here.

So I don't think pointyertoes has to worry about his credit bureau report. I'm sure the salary he gets plus the profit sharing check he just recieved gives him a pretty high credit score!!

Flightlevels · Post by **Flightlevels** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:43 pm

all this from a video of a Q400, c'mon boys!...lol.

Rotten Apple #1 · Post by **Rotten Apple #1** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:26 pm

Flight...puh-lease...

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Prospect · Post by **Prospect** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:02 pm

Interesting interview with Robert Deluce covering the Q400 gear problems. http://broadband.bnn.ca/bnn/?vid=20994

the link will only be active till the end of the weekend

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