ATPL Tests

[M4A1]

When you have the hours, what tests do you have to do? I know you have to take an exam but is that it? If you fail it can you take it again or is that it for your career?

Thanks

[ahramin]

Man you have a lot of questions Keep em coming.

Here are the requirements for the ATPL, which can be found here
http://www.tc.gc.ca/aviation/REGSERV/CA ... htm#421_34
in the CARs.

Have a read through that, then ask again about the parts you do not understand.

DIVISION VIII - AIRLINE TRANSPORT PILOT LICENCE
421.34 Aeroplanes - Requirements

(1) Age

An applicant shall be a minimum of twenty-one years of age.

(2) Medical Fitness and Validity

(a) An applicant shall hold a Category 1 Medical Certificate valid for an Airline Transport Pilot Licence - Aeroplane.

(b) The medical validity period for the licence holder under 40 years of age is 12 months and for a licence holder 40 years of age or over is 6 months.

(c) The licence holder may exercise Private Pilot Licence - Aeroplane privileges until the end of the medical period specified for the Private Pilot Licence.

(d) The licence is maintained by a valid Category 1 Medical Certificate.

(3) Knowledge

An applicant shall have obtained a minimum of 70% in each of three written examinations on the following aviation subjects:

(a) Airline Transport Pilot Licence (Aeroplane) Meteorology, Radio Aids to Navigation and Flight Planning (SAMRA) including:

(i) general system of weather collection and dissemination,

(ii) weather map, weather forecast, weather abbreviations, symbols and nomenclature,

(iii) pressure systems and their association with fronts, cloud forms and icing conditions,

(iv) the movement of upper winds and their effect on aircraft operations,

(v) weather service circulars and instructions for air route meteorological service which are pertinent to aircraft operations, and

(vi) radio communication procedures relating to aircraft operation; and

(b) Airline Transport Pilot Licence (Aeroplane) Air Law, Aeroplane Operation and Navigation General (SARON) including:

(i) basic principles of air navigation such as formulae, instruments and other navigational aids which are commonly used in the navigation of aircraft,

(ii) basic principles of loading and weight distribution and their effect on flight characteristics,

(iii) Canadian Aviation Regulations, Air Traffic Rules and Procedures, Information Circulars and NOTAM, and

(iv) human factors, including pilot decision-making; and

(c) Instrument Rating (INRAT).

(4) Experience

An applicant shall have met the training requirements for the issue of a Commercial Pilot Licence - Aeroplane that is not restricted to daylight flying and completed a minimum of 1500 hours total flight time of which a minimum of 900 hours shall have been completed in aeroplanes. The total flight time shall include a minimum of:
(amended 2000/09/01; previous version)

(a) 250 hours pilot-in-command flight time in aeroplanes which shall include where applicable, a maximum of 100 hours pilot-in-command under supervision flight time completed in accordance with Section 421.11. The pilot-in-command and/or pilot-in-command under supervision flight time shall include a minimum of 100 hours cross-country flight time of which a minimum of 25 hours shall have been by night;

(b) 100 hours night flight time as pilot-in-command or as co-pilot of which a minimum of 30 hours shall have been acquired in aeroplanes;

(c) 200 hours cross-country flight time as co-pilot in an aeroplane required to be operated with a co-pilot or, 100 additional hours cross-country flight time as pilot-in-command which may have been part of the 250 hours pilot-in-command flight time specified above; and

(d) 75 hours instrument flight time of which a maximum of 25 hours may have been acquired in approved instrument ground trainers and a maximum of 35 hours may have been acquired in helicopters. Instrument ground time shall not be applied toward the total 1500 hour flight time requirement.

(5) Skill

(a) Within the 12 months preceding the date of application for the licence, an applicant shall demonstrate in a multi-engined aeroplane with no central thrust configuration and fitted with instruments and equipment suitable for IFR flight in controlled airspace, familiarity with and the ability:
(amended 1999/03/01; previous version)

(i) to perform both normal and emergency flight procedures and manoeuvres appropriate to the aeroplane in which the flight test is conducted; and

(ii) to execute all manoeuvres and procedures set forth in Division XIV for issue of a Group 1 instrument rating.

(b) For initial issue of the Airline Transport Pilot Licence - Aeroplane Category, the Minister shall only endorse a Group 1 Instrument Rating on the licence.
(amended 1999/03/01; previous version)

(6) Credits - Experience

(a) Glider

Where an applicant holds a Pilot Licence - Glider, a maximum of 50 hours flight time in gliders shall be credited towards the total 1500 hour flight time requirement.

(b) Three Axis Ultra-light Aeroplanes

Where an applicant holds a Pilot Permit - Ultra-light Aeroplane, a maximum of 50 hours flight time in three axis ultra-light aeroplanes shall be credited towards the total 1500 hour flight time requirement.

(7) Credits for DND Applicants

Active and retired Canadian Forces personnel who hold a Canadian Forces Instrument Rating (unrestricted) in a multi-engined aeroplane (Group 1) shall be deemed to have met the skill requirement.

You can re-write any exam, but it is cheaper just to do it right the first time.

[shower of sparks]

i hold a valid IFR at the moment and i am about to write the SARON and then the SAMRA... does the IATRA have to be written again as well?

thanks,

sos

[HuD 91gt]

i hold a valid IFR at the moment and i am about to write the SARON and then the SAMRA... does the IATRA have to be written again as well?

thanks,

sos

If you have written the ATPL exams, you do not have to do the IATRA.

[shower of sparks]

...sorry i meant INRAT.

SOS

[Grey_Wolf]

I hold a valid IFR at the moment and I am about to write the SARON and then the SAMRA... does the IATRA have to be written again as well?

Short Answer No! Long Answer see below

CAR 421.40

(3) Individual Type Rating Requirements

(a) Aeroplane - Two Crew

(i) Knowledge

An applicant for an individual aircraft type rating for aeroplanes with a minimum flight crew requirement of at least two pilots shall have completed a program of ground school instruction and flight training on the aeroplane type, and
(amended 2006/12/14; previous version)

Private Pilot Licence - Aeroplane or Commercial Pilot Licence-Aeroplane

(A) in the case of the holder of a Private Pilot Licence-Aeroplane or Commercial Pilot Licence-Aeroplane, within the 24 months preceding the application for the first endorsement of the two crew rating, an applicant shall have obtained a minimum score of 70 percent (70%) on the Type Rating-Aeroplane (IATRA) written examination;
(amended 2001/03/01; previous version)

Airline Transport Pilot Licence - Aeroplane

(B) in the case of the applicant who has obtained a minimum score of 70 percent (70%) on the Airline Transport Pilot Licence-Aeroplane written examinations (SAMRA and SARON) within the 24 months preceding the application for the endorsement of the rating, the written examination requirement shall be considered to have been met; or
(amended 2001/03/01; previous version)

(C) in the case of the holder of an Airline Transport Pilot Licence — Aeroplane, the written examination requirement shall be considered to have been met, or
(amended 2006/12/14; previous version)

(D) in the case of an applicant who completed the airline transport pilot licence (ATP(A)) integrated course and who completed the Airline Transport Pilot Licence — Aeroplane written examinations within the five-year period immediately preceding the application for endorsement of the rating, the written examination requirement shall be considered to have been met.
(amended 2006/12/14; no previous version)

[Grey_Wolf]

...sorry i meant INRAT.

SOS

The INRAT (Instrument Rating) written test is "valid" for two years until you get the rating. Once you have the rating, it's an upkeep via flight test every two years .... just renewed mine last month.

On the other hand, if you let your instrument rating lapse for more than 2 years (24 months); then YES you have to start from scratch ...

CAR 421.62 excerpt

(4) An applicant for the renewal of an instrument rating that expired more than 24 months before the date of application, shall:
(amended 1999/03/01; previous version)

(a) successfully complete the flight test referred to in paragraph 421.46(2)(c); and
(amended 1999/03/01; previous version)

(b) obtain a minimum of 70% in the written examination (INRAT) described in CAR 421.46(2)(a) - Knowledge Requirement.
(amended 1999/03/01; previous version)

[old metal]

I thought it was four years before you had to rewrite the INRAT

[Chaxterium]

You have 2 years AFTER your IFR expires before you have to redo the INRAT. So basically you have 4 years from your last renewal before you have to rewrite it. After your initial flight test, or renewal, your IFR is good for 2 years provided you remain current. After the two years it will expire unless you do a renewal. If you let it expire you then have a further two years within which all you have to do is a flight test. Kind of confusing but that's how it was explained to me.

[CF-UCK]

if i were to write my saron today, do i have a certain time frame in which i have to write my samra in, or could i do my samra a year later?

[Grey_Wolf]

if i were to write my saron today, do i have a certain time frame in which i have to write my samra in, or could i do my samra a year later?

The test(s) are valid for 24 months after you write them. The only condition is that you meet the licensing requirment within those 24 months otherwise it's another 105$ to re-write them again.

[CF-UCK]

thanks man

[BladeRunner]

Anyone in YQT who has written the ATPL 's and would like to sell one of there books please PM me.

BladeRunner