Hey... I'm a newbie looking to buy my first board... I've done the renting for a while and now I want to buy my own board.
I've narrowed it down to 2 (unless you have other recommendations?) either the Burton Bullet or the Morrow Siphon. They are both Wide boards since I am a bigfoot with my size 12 boot. Also, I am a skinny guy and light for my height (6'2 and 140lbs) so should I go with the 154cm or 159cm board? Is length or weight the more critical factor? Also I don't intend to do any crazy tricks but would like a good all around board. I'm leaning towards the 154 because I'm light, and I've heard a shorter board may be easier to learn on.
Thanks!
Anyone snowboard here? need advice
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Don't know about those boards, but..
I suggest you also get a good quality binding - these things are critical to control. Something that is of a good quality and holds the boot solidly.
You said you're not planning on going freestyle (jumps), so I would suggest a longer board. I'm 186 and have a 157 board, but sometimes I wish I had a little longer one, 159 or so. The rule of thumb is that when you are standing up and put the board upright infront of you, it should touch your chin (or a little higher). Shorter boards offer more maneuverability (board curve radius is smaller), but you won't generally go as fast, so they are good in the beginning....but...if you're gonna spend >$500 on your setup (which looks like the case here judging by your brand selection
), you should plan on using it for more than 1 season (that's as long as it generally takes to learn to snowboard..it's not difficult).
I suggest you also get a good quality binding - these things are critical to control. Something that is of a good quality and holds the boot solidly.
You said you're not planning on going freestyle (jumps), so I would suggest a longer board. I'm 186 and have a 157 board, but sometimes I wish I had a little longer one, 159 or so. The rule of thumb is that when you are standing up and put the board upright infront of you, it should touch your chin (or a little higher). Shorter boards offer more maneuverability (board curve radius is smaller), but you won't generally go as fast, so they are good in the beginning....but...if you're gonna spend >$500 on your setup (which looks like the case here judging by your brand selection
), you should plan on using it for more than 1 season (that's as long as it generally takes to learn to snowboard..it's not difficult).
hello there, im a level 1 snowboard instructor over in NB.
to answer your question, Burton have reliable beginner boards and are real easy all-around board to learn on. both length and weight are important but for a beginner a shorter board would be easier to learn on so i would go with the 154.and im sure with 140 lbs you will not overweight the board. K2 also offer great beginner boards. i'm 6'0 and i ride a 156 Rome and i find the shorter boards are easier to control.
any other questions dont be afraid to ask bud
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to answer your question, Burton have reliable beginner boards and are real easy all-around board to learn on. both length and weight are important but for a beginner a shorter board would be easier to learn on so i would go with the 154.and im sure with 140 lbs you will not overweight the board. K2 also offer great beginner boards. i'm 6'0 and i ride a 156 Rome and i find the shorter boards are easier to control.
any other questions dont be afraid to ask bud
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Hey thanks for all the replies!
For what its worth, I think it's easier to learn to snowboard than ski. At least at the beginning levels, you have more control, and you can handle things at slower speeds by riding the edge if you need to, or doing the 'pendulum' down harder sections
I'd rather not go for an expensive Burton board for my first, but the only shop around here that knows what they're talking about sells the expensive stuff. My only concern with going for the 159 is that I'm at the bottom of the weight range for the board, and about middle of the weight range for the 154, does that matter? Or is it better to get the proper length of the 159?
And thanks pokaroo I'd love to check out your buddy's shop but I'm up in CYQT
Though I will be visiting Toronto for christmas...
For what its worth, I think it's easier to learn to snowboard than ski. At least at the beginning levels, you have more control, and you can handle things at slower speeds by riding the edge if you need to, or doing the 'pendulum' down harder sections
I'd rather not go for an expensive Burton board for my first, but the only shop around here that knows what they're talking about sells the expensive stuff. My only concern with going for the 159 is that I'm at the bottom of the weight range for the board, and about middle of the weight range for the 154, does that matter? Or is it better to get the proper length of the 159?
And thanks pokaroo I'd love to check out your buddy's shop but I'm up in CYQT
Though I will be visiting Toronto for christmas...hey im a level one instructor and freestlye coach in CYQM.
#1 dont buy a morow or whatever its called they are garbage.
#2 buy the long board, you'll look and feel like a clown on a 154 if your over 6'0, plus you siad your not going to to be hitting the park anyway buy long you'll thank yourself on powder days.
#3 Buy a burton, great sarter board, good warrenty, every shop has parts for them.
#4 Buy good boots and bindings, almost as important as the board itself, its no fun riding with foot and calf cramps on a snazzy ride.
#5 Check out other bands, ride makes great wide boards.
#6 WEAR A HELMET, nobody looks cool in the meat sled.
pm me if you got any other questions
Gravy
#1 dont buy a morow or whatever its called they are garbage.
#2 buy the long board, you'll look and feel like a clown on a 154 if your over 6'0, plus you siad your not going to to be hitting the park anyway buy long you'll thank yourself on powder days.
#3 Buy a burton, great sarter board, good warrenty, every shop has parts for them.
#4 Buy good boots and bindings, almost as important as the board itself, its no fun riding with foot and calf cramps on a snazzy ride.
#5 Check out other bands, ride makes great wide boards.
#6 WEAR A HELMET, nobody looks cool in the meat sled.
pm me if you got any other questions
Gravy
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Hey Meecka- I went to the darkside a couple years ago, no longer a wanker-two-planker.
Was dead easy to pickup, barring the first time, where it took the better part of a days (attempted) boarding to get a single turn in. the rest of the time spent skidding down slowly on one edge and occasionally sitting down to stop.
Day two I left the bunny hill and never looked back.
It took me the better part of a season or two to learn to be a decent skiier, I think I could have learned boarding a lot faster.
I wish I took it up years ago, much more enjoyable in most respects than skiing. Flatland propulsion sucks, but oh well.
Seems like its a lot easier on my legs and knees as well, I no longer feel like my legs are going to collapse at the end of a days boarding.
Good Luck!
Was dead easy to pickup, barring the first time, where it took the better part of a days (attempted) boarding to get a single turn in. the rest of the time spent skidding down slowly on one edge and occasionally sitting down to stop.
Day two I left the bunny hill and never looked back.
It took me the better part of a season or two to learn to be a decent skiier, I think I could have learned boarding a lot faster.
I wish I took it up years ago, much more enjoyable in most respects than skiing. Flatland propulsion sucks, but oh well.
Seems like its a lot easier on my legs and knees as well, I no longer feel like my legs are going to collapse at the end of a days boarding.
Good Luck!
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So does it make any sense to start my 9 year old daughter on skis???Probably not is my guess. But I'd be interested in your input. I go to Colorado once a year. Some winter time man- made stuff nearby to learn on. I'm strictly a two planker myself. If it works for a Twin Otter, it works for me.
Technically a twotter has 3, so unless you've got a 3rd ski attached somwhere other than your feet.... 
Honestly, I think the Skis are on their way out. Only the die hard 2 plankers will be left. I'd give her the option of both, let her decide what she likes best. That way she will get far more enjoyment out of it.
Honestly, I think the Skis are on their way out. Only the die hard 2 plankers will be left. I'd give her the option of both, let her decide what she likes best. That way she will get far more enjoyment out of it.
Meecka....... "I'd give her the option of both, let her decide what she likes best. That way she will get far more enjoyment out of it."
That right there is a brilliant piece of advice!!
"Honestly, I think the Skis are on their way out. Only the die hard 2 plankers will be left"
and that is one of the dumbest things I've heard in while. The rock you live under must be pretty heavy! Skiing is bigger now than it has been in 20 years and growing rapidly.
That right there is a brilliant piece of advice!!
"Honestly, I think the Skis are on their way out. Only the die hard 2 plankers will be left"
and that is one of the dumbest things I've heard in while. The rock you live under must be pretty heavy! Skiing is bigger now than it has been in 20 years and growing rapidly.
Oh dear! Did I hit a nerve? Pauve Pitoune!
Just an FYI, I'm a Skiier, have been for the better part of 22 years. I'm just going with what I see on the slopes. Seems like there are more and more snowboards out there. I did not infer that the skis were gonna be gone this season, definitely, yup for sure.
It was an oppinion, everyone is still, I believe, entitled to one. And your reaction:
Just an FYI, I'm a Skiier, have been for the better part of 22 years. I'm just going with what I see on the slopes. Seems like there are more and more snowboards out there. I did not infer that the skis were gonna be gone this season, definitely, yup for sure.
It was an oppinion, everyone is still, I believe, entitled to one. And your reaction:
Makes me wonder if your cranky because you have to go back to High Scool tomorrow. I was Kind of hoping this would remain an adult conversation.and that is one of the dumbest things I've heard in while. The rock you live under must be pretty heavy!
No nerve struck at all. I'm guessing you must be one of those skiiers that has a person ringing bells in front of you to follow. Either that or you need a glass stomach so you can see with your head so far up you a**!! There has been a huge increase in skis on the hills..... not to sure where you're riding.
As for High School tomorrow, last time I checked schools were close for rememberance day....... or did you forget??
As for High School tomorrow, last time I checked schools were close for rememberance day....... or did you forget??
So you have been to busy with your "adult life" to realize that tomorrow is a holiday????? Do you have a job? Do you realize that your little shots are only bringing you down to my level, a childish one. Does your hipocracy have no bounds?? Keep on making your brilliant observations and living that grown up lifestyle!!!!
You are quite right. I have allowed myself to degenerate to a mudslinging fight. I digress and have no wish for further discourse with you.bringing you down to my level, a childish one.
Stinson... as I said earlier, I would present her with both options, perhaps a beginners lesson for both, and see which she prefers.
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Go with Burton!
Here's why, they're light, responsive, and have the best resale. So provided you don't gouge the base too terribly early season riding, Burton boards tend to hold their value better than other brands. This is mostly due to their name.
I rode the Burton Custom for years and years mostly the 59 but I rode a 69 for 3 seasons. I'm 6' and almost 200 lbs and I found the 59 tended to submarine in the deep stuff, whereas the 69 was great for Fernie dumps, but the tight trees at Sunshine were too difficult to manoeuvre (hate that spelling).
The custom is also a narrower board and I suffered from toe dig on steeper terrain so now I switched to the Burton Triumph. It's a "mid wide" and has an offset width (ie nose is 5mm wider than the tail). The offset makes it ride like a longer board in the deep stuff without sacrificing groomer/ice control and tight tree/mogul manoeuvrability. That said it handles like shit when riding switch.
Doc, the first day on a snowboard sucks. There's no way around that. Somewbody's a goinna get hurt...I think you know him...But after the initial pain the learning curve is much steeper than on skis. ie on ski's you'll be making it down the bunny hill easier with less pain, but it might be years before you shred the double black, whereas on a board you'll be hucking and charging far sooner.
Oh yeah spend the bucks on boots and bindings. Bindings with the "toe cap" strap are more comfortable because you don't need to crank them as tight to keep your feet in, and good boots make a huge difference. My feet used to hurt for days after riding, but with Burton Driver X boots...let's just say that they're soo comfortable, that I'd drive home in them if I didn't have a standard transmission.
See ya out there.
CJ
Here's why, they're light, responsive, and have the best resale. So provided you don't gouge the base too terribly early season riding, Burton boards tend to hold their value better than other brands. This is mostly due to their name.
I rode the Burton Custom for years and years mostly the 59 but I rode a 69 for 3 seasons. I'm 6' and almost 200 lbs and I found the 59 tended to submarine in the deep stuff, whereas the 69 was great for Fernie dumps, but the tight trees at Sunshine were too difficult to manoeuvre (hate that spelling).
The custom is also a narrower board and I suffered from toe dig on steeper terrain so now I switched to the Burton Triumph. It's a "mid wide" and has an offset width (ie nose is 5mm wider than the tail). The offset makes it ride like a longer board in the deep stuff without sacrificing groomer/ice control and tight tree/mogul manoeuvrability. That said it handles like shit when riding switch.
Doc, the first day on a snowboard sucks. There's no way around that. Somewbody's a goinna get hurt...I think you know him...But after the initial pain the learning curve is much steeper than on skis. ie on ski's you'll be making it down the bunny hill easier with less pain, but it might be years before you shred the double black, whereas on a board you'll be hucking and charging far sooner.
Oh yeah spend the bucks on boots and bindings. Bindings with the "toe cap" strap are more comfortable because you don't need to crank them as tight to keep your feet in, and good boots make a huge difference. My feet used to hurt for days after riding, but with Burton Driver X boots...let's just say that they're soo comfortable, that I'd drive home in them if I didn't have a standard transmission.
See ya out there.
CJ
I'm pretty late in on this one, but I was an instructor for both skiing and snowboarding, and wanted to add my 0.02.
I mostly agree with the couple of people here recommending Burton, I'm over 6', closer to 200, and ride a big fat burton. They've been making boards since the begining; good quality, handling, and resale. Go larger if you can, I would recommend something in the mid 160's for length to allow for your height- otw, you'll be toast in the deep stuff. A wider, mid-range board will last you 5 years, which is longer than you'll need it too. That will leave you money for comfortable boots, and bindings. Any mid-level Burton binding will do, but you'll have to stick to Burton bindings if you buy a Burton snowboard.
To those just starting, snowboarding has a way easier learning curve than skiing. In fact, you can be turning comfortably both ways by the first day. Good luck getting that far on skiis. For young kids, I would start on skiis. It will be much easier for them to learn parallels when they're 9 than when they're 29. They're also less likely to break an arm. Plus, they don't have far to fall...
Everyone, at some point, will want to try both. But skiing is harder to pick up, esp. when you're older. Ultimately, skiing offers more challenges/benefits, and has made a massive resurgence over the last 5-7 years. A lot has to do with improved technology gained from snowboarding. In the 90's, there were often more boarders on the hills, but now skiing is way out in front again.
Also, as a former ski patroller, I'd suggest a helmet for all boarders, and for all kids, both on skis and boards.
I mostly agree with the couple of people here recommending Burton, I'm over 6', closer to 200, and ride a big fat burton. They've been making boards since the begining; good quality, handling, and resale. Go larger if you can, I would recommend something in the mid 160's for length to allow for your height- otw, you'll be toast in the deep stuff. A wider, mid-range board will last you 5 years, which is longer than you'll need it too. That will leave you money for comfortable boots, and bindings. Any mid-level Burton binding will do, but you'll have to stick to Burton bindings if you buy a Burton snowboard.
To those just starting, snowboarding has a way easier learning curve than skiing. In fact, you can be turning comfortably both ways by the first day. Good luck getting that far on skiis. For young kids, I would start on skiis. It will be much easier for them to learn parallels when they're 9 than when they're 29. They're also less likely to break an arm. Plus, they don't have far to fall...
Everyone, at some point, will want to try both. But skiing is harder to pick up, esp. when you're older. Ultimately, skiing offers more challenges/benefits, and has made a massive resurgence over the last 5-7 years. A lot has to do with improved technology gained from snowboarding. In the 90's, there were often more boarders on the hills, but now skiing is way out in front again.
Also, as a former ski patroller, I'd suggest a helmet for all boarders, and for all kids, both on skis and boards.
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FYI tomorrow is not a holiday for everyone, kthxbye.Newbster wrote:So you have been to busy with your "adult life" to realize that tomorrow is a holiday????? Do you have a job? Do you realize that your little shots are only bringing you down to my level, a childish one. Does your hipocracy have no bounds?? Keep on making your brilliant observations and living that grown up lifestyle!!!!
FYI Monday was not a holiday for everyone, kthxbye. Actually most people worked around here. Go rossignol premier!Newbster wrote:So you have been to busy with your "adult life" to realize that tomorrow is a holiday????? Do you have a job? Do you realize that your little shots are only bringing you down to my level, a childish one. Does your hipocracy have no bounds?? Keep on making your brilliant observations and living that grown up lifestyle!!!!
