I wish I would have been there to slap him back to reality...
Car dealer to pilot.. no idea what he's up against...
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TheEvilTwin
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Car dealer to pilot.. no idea what he's up against...
Just a quick story on how people think this is such an easy career to get into.. My father took his car in for servicing the other day, started chatting with the customer service rep and found out it was his last day... he just finished his MIFR (a 200 hour wonder) and I guess was starting a flying job. My dad asked him a few questions, what his long term plans were.. the reply.. oh I have a friend at Air Canada I'll be there in no time!!
I wish I would have been there to slap him back to reality...
I wish I would have been there to slap him back to reality...
At least he is following his dream as some people would not....he sounds pretty dedicated to be working a full time job as well as doing his multi-IFR. He may be a 200 hr wonder as you call it, but we all have to start off somewhere. I remember when I had 200 hrs and if you are fortunate to get a job at 200 hrs, well good on ya! You are right sometimes we don't know at low hrs. with regards to our future and understading how long it takes to get in to a company like Air Canada, connections or not, but again give people a chance and let them figure it out for themselves...
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TheEvilTwin
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Oh I give him credit for doing it.. If I knew what I know now, I probably would have said F this a long time ago... point being is for some reason everyone thinks that because my buddy works for AC or WJ its a free ticket in... look at the guys around with THOUSANDS of hours on this board that don't get called....
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TheEvilTwin
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But dreams SHOULD have some reality established too. You know how may guys I have met that had this outlook thinking this is how the industry is. Reality will kick in. Have had some friends with parents working at air canada and they didnt get in.kev767 wrote:At least he is following his dream as some people would not...
The fact of the matter is - all applications are handled online at AC and the human coefficient has been removed (mostly).
There are no paper applications to move to the top of the pile anymore.
Your application is graded on a point basis - those with the highest points get the phone calls.
There are no paper applications to move to the top of the pile anymore.
Your application is graded on a point basis - those with the highest points get the phone calls.
SAR_YQQ wrote:The fact of the matter is - all applications are handled online at AC and the human coefficient has been removed (mostly).
There are no paper applications to move to the top of the pile anymore.
Your application is graded on a point basis - those with the highest points get the phone calls.
I'm not sure about the points system, my friends dad flew with a 22 year old on the bus a few weeks ago. This guy must have had some career to get a lot of points at 22
There are two of us?
I was an automation engineer making great money and living quite comfortably.
Everyday I drove past Pearson on my way to the office and thought to myself that I always wanted to fly for a living but something had always come up that made working seem like a smarter choice.
10 years went by with me wishing I had done it, and telling myself that with my nice paycheck I could buy an airplane and fly. I was a slave to my blackberry. Never had time for anything other than customer management and sales.
One morning on my way to work I realized that we only get one kick at the can and that I was going to be 50 and have regrets. So I quit my job that morning, sold my house, traded in my Japanese luxury car for an old Toyota and started out.
While the paycheck may take 30 years to get back to what it was before I started this adventure if at all; I am glad that I made the choice I made.
Congratulations to anyone that has the determination to walk away from a comfortable lifestyle to do what so few can.
Everyday I drove past Pearson on my way to the office and thought to myself that I always wanted to fly for a living but something had always come up that made working seem like a smarter choice.
10 years went by with me wishing I had done it, and telling myself that with my nice paycheck I could buy an airplane and fly. I was a slave to my blackberry. Never had time for anything other than customer management and sales.
One morning on my way to work I realized that we only get one kick at the can and that I was going to be 50 and have regrets. So I quit my job that morning, sold my house, traded in my Japanese luxury car for an old Toyota and started out.
While the paycheck may take 30 years to get back to what it was before I started this adventure if at all; I am glad that I made the choice I made.
Congratulations to anyone that has the determination to walk away from a comfortable lifestyle to do what so few can.
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Phileas Fogg
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Re: Car dealer to pilot.. no idea what he's up against...
Yes, but read again your title "Car dealer to pilot.. " What that supposed to be. And how it should be "Astronaut to pilot" or at least something between Arnold Shwarzeneger and an aviation engineer. Guys... we are just ordinary people who got on they're dreams ways, we had some money to start this and why not... some luck. Just like that car dealer guy.TheEvilTwin wrote:Just a quick story on how people think this is such an easy career to get into.. My father took his car in for servicing the other day, started chatting with the customer service rep and found out it was his last day... he just finished his MIFR (a 200 hour wonder) and I guess was starting a flying job. My dad asked him a few questions, what his long term plans were.. the reply.. oh I have a friend at Air Canada I'll be there in no time!!
I wish I would have been there to slap him back to reality...
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well i won't even try to speak for those who for what ever reason decided that ac/and the like was not their personal cup of tea.
what I will do is tell a short story of last night and you can decide
if it was worth all the years of low pay and b.s.
noon a dispatch call comes in and we take a group of very talented
doc's to yyc . after several hours they arrive back at the aircraft
with a 19month old boy on a heart/lung machine and its pumping away
there are more tubes hooked up than an old fashioned still like in the
old movies.
we assist as best we can and taxi out for a quick priority departure.
3 hrs later >arrive in yyz after shutdown one of the doc's said we did a really good job and thanked all of the flt crew. i thought to my self
his team was doing a darn good job for that boy too.
that was a damn fine long day job satisfaction =150% hard to do that
behind kevlar locked cocpit doors these days
fly safe winter is here
burr!!
what I will do is tell a short story of last night and you can decide
if it was worth all the years of low pay and b.s.
noon a dispatch call comes in and we take a group of very talented
doc's to yyc . after several hours they arrive back at the aircraft
with a 19month old boy on a heart/lung machine and its pumping away
there are more tubes hooked up than an old fashioned still like in the
old movies.
we assist as best we can and taxi out for a quick priority departure.
3 hrs later >arrive in yyz after shutdown one of the doc's said we did a really good job and thanked all of the flt crew. i thought to my self
his team was doing a darn good job for that boy too.
that was a damn fine long day job satisfaction =150% hard to do that
behind kevlar locked cocpit doors these days
fly safe winter is hereburr!!
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SuperchargedRS
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Well this guy has a better chance then most that move to aviation field do.
Most people who try to sell cars last less then a week on the point, I have NEVER seen a woman last more then three days. Most people who see this guy (the car dealer) think he is a POS from the ghetgo because of his job, so I don't think some sour grapes about being a "200 hour wonder" is going to effect him, also the average guy on a lot works over 13hrs a day 5-6 days a week EVERY WEEK, no x-mas off, no anything, if you dont have a set and leather for skin and some major people skills you wont last; so my money is on this guy!
Get off your high horse, we operate a machine for money, are we all that different then a truck driver or a dozer driver?
I love flying (and we are a isolated group) but lets not get all pompous about ourselves here
-SuperchargedRS
Most people who try to sell cars last less then a week on the point, I have NEVER seen a woman last more then three days. Most people who see this guy (the car dealer) think he is a POS from the ghetgo because of his job, so I don't think some sour grapes about being a "200 hour wonder" is going to effect him, also the average guy on a lot works over 13hrs a day 5-6 days a week EVERY WEEK, no x-mas off, no anything, if you dont have a set and leather for skin and some major people skills you wont last; so my money is on this guy!
Get off your high horse, we operate a machine for money, are we all that different then a truck driver or a dozer driver?
I love flying (and we are a isolated group) but lets not get all pompous about ourselves here
-SuperchargedRS
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QFTMT!!!!SuperchargedRS wrote:Well this guy has a better chance then most that move to aviation field do.
Most people who try to tell cars last less then a week on the point, I have NEVER seen a woman last more then three days. Most people who see this guy (the car dealer) think he is a POS from the ghetgo because of his job, so I don't think some sour grapes about being a "200 hour wonder" is going to effect him, also the average guy on a lot works over 13hrs a day 5-6 days a week EVERY WEEK, no x-mas off, no anything, if you dont have a set and leather for skin and some major people skills you wont last; so my money is on this guy!
Get off your high horse, we operate a machine for money, are we all that different then a truck driver or a dozer driver?
I love flying (and we are a isolated group) but lets not get all pompous about ourselves here
-SuperchargedRS
you know what... that 22 year old might have busted his ass to get to where he wanted to be. it is possible to get there by 22 if you play your cards right, taking the right jobs at the right time, building the right amount of time. if you knew exactly what you wanted right when you started, and weren't afraid of moving/working under less than desirable conditions, your could be there by 22 too. is there anything wrong with that? or are you just jealous, no need to drop the daddy's boy comments.blewhead wrote:xsbank wrote:His father worked there. Better than points.
I know, that's what I figured too, daddies boy.
and no, i don't work for AC - and might not ever wear that silly hat - it was just a dirtbag comment on your part.
QUACK!
