Confed Acceptance

mathias_now · Post by **mathias_now** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:32 pm

Hello, I’m considering applying to Confederation College for the Aviation Flight Management Program. I’m wondering what marks/average people who are attending or have attended the program had in high school? My marks are listed below. Let me know if you think I am able to gain acceptance to the program. If not, please tell me what marks I should improve to ensure my acceptance.

Thanks in advance,

MN

Grade Twelve Marks(HS)

12 Math – 50College, 62University
12 English – 72College, 72University
12 Science – 68College, 83Mixed, 63University
12 History – 58College, 66University
12 Business – 72Mixed
12 Leadership – 75College

?YES - NO?

AUGER9 · Post by **AUGER9** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:44 pm

Probably. You'll likely be waitlisted for a bit. When I applied, the lowest highschool average that was accepted in the year before me 68%. I'd recommend taking math again, even just for your own benefit, many fail out first year from math and physics.

mathias_now · Post by **mathias_now** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:08 pm

MATH -College and Apprentice or College Technology? Btw I'm 22 and dont think going back to high school is really an option....

Any other opinions?

MN

djsamphard · Post by **djsamphard** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:04 pm

You could take technology math in night school. My school doesn't offer the program this year, so im going to be taking it in night school.

renfley · Post by **renfley** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:40 pm

you stole cat's avatar!!!! shame on you!!!

xsbank · Post by **xsbank** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:52 pm

If you get into college with a 50% math mark, you will find you will have to take 10, 11 and 12 as a self-study course before you are allowed a full entrance. The colleges usually have a 'math lab' where you use the self-help books and there is frequently a prof sitting about to provide guidance. I had not done any math for 12 years and I went back to get a degree and I did 9, 10, 11, 12 in a few weeks and went on to get 'great' marks in calculus.

You can do it if you have the drive.

PS anybody who says they can't do math is fooling themselves and bs-ing the rest of us. Just do the work.

mathias_now · Post by **mathias_now** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:05 pm

xsbank wrote: you will find you will have to take 10, 11 and 12 as a self-study course before you are allowed a full entrance.

I dont understand. Anyone care to elaborate?

MH

renfley · Post by **renfley** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:35 pm

I don't get it either... My math grade coming out of High school was 65% and I got in.

My overall average was 72% not the best student in the world!.. It's once I realized that I had to pay out of pocket for an education that I started applying myself! hehehe

xsbank · Post by **xsbank** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:03 pm

What I meant was, if you got a 50% mark in math, you don't know how to do math. If you wish to do college math, you will have to review and re-learn all the math you missed while sleeping in class. It is all cumulative and I'll bet you cannot do grade 10 math right now. That is why you will have to review and re-learn all the stuff you've forgotten.

My guess is that you've always been a mediocre math student, not just in grade 12, and you will have to do the work now that you didn't do in High School.

Sorry if you are really an A student but your dog ate your grade 12 homework and I am off the mark.

Correct me?

mathias_now · Post by **mathias_now** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:59 pm

Renfley, check your pm’s

xsbank, You’re not far off. However, that math class I did online while taking 4 other 12 U classes. So math being a 5th class, it was neglected at best. I did however take grade 12 U math the fallowing semester and pulled off a 62(not good, but a step up from getting 50 in 12 C math) Do you think ill get accepted based on my marks and just focus the next 5-6 months reviewing 10,11, and 12 on my own time or do you think I would benefit more by talking 12 C technology math?

All please feel free to jump in and let me know what you think…..

MN

xsbank · Post by **xsbank** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:24 pm

Mattias, all these schools have people you can speak to to guide you in this registration/acceptance process - phone or visit one of them and get it from the horse's mouth?

AUGER9 · Post by **AUGER9** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:27 pm

They average out your math, english, and the next top2 U or C courses. You should be able to get in, although you're pushing it. If you're not a math person, I'd recommend taking the math tech and possibly physics courses beforehand, so as to avoid the boot first year. If you're someone that doesn't apply yourself to the fullest education wise ( which im not saying you are), you don't stand much of a chance getting through the heavy course load first semester. So do what you can now to start preparing yourself.

mathias_now · Post by **mathias_now** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:39 pm

AUGER9, I'm set on becoming a pilot, and without the support of my parents, due to their non-approval of my chosen career path, it’s the only way I can really afford to do it. I will be working as hard as I can, Trust me, I want this more than anything!! How hard exactly is the first and second semester and what classes should I pull up my socks for? I will start studying those subjects now. I have a lot of time on m hands, so I might as well put it to good use.

xsbank, alright ill call tomorrow! What would your best advice be though?

MN

AUGER9 · Post by **AUGER9** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:51 pm

If you're able to and can afford it, take a PPL ground school before you go. It'll give you a bit of a base before you start theirs, which is brutal and knocked out 25 of 65 kids first semester in my class. Their ground school is the big one, then math gets a few more although you only need 60 to pass the math.

mathias_now · Post by **mathias_now** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:32 pm

What if I can knock off my PPL before I go? Would that be beneficial?

MN

CYQT · Post by **CYQT** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:45 pm

does anyone know when confed starts accepting people for early acceptance? will they accept anyone based on grade 12 midterm marks? or will they wait until february when they get your final first semester marks? thanks

xsbank · Post by **xsbank** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:54 am

Mathias, have you done any flying? If you have, I would say that you should go visit the school like I said (I have no idea where you live). If you have not flown, I would go and take a few lessons and see what its like. Committing to a 4-year degree when you really don't seem too interested in academics might not be the best course. There may be another way, learning another skill like, I dunno, backhoe operator, which pays a good wage and would finance you through flight school and would be quicker than college. That sort of skill would support you well if you ever get laid off (I know, pilots NEVER get laid off.....).

There are some minor academics involved in learning to fly but no difficult math etc. and although you 'may' not be airline material without a degree (who knows what they want from year to year), you could still have a nice career.

AUGER9 · Post by **AUGER9** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:26 am

It's only 18months, not 4 years.
You don't really need to get your PPL before you go, it'll take a bit of the load off second semester but you'll only get half the free flying time in the first two semesters than you would without it.

mathias_now · Post by **mathias_now** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:58 am

I'm in at Georgian for January and skipping over first semester without it hindering the date of graduation. Is the risk of not being accepted at Confed worth losing a year? Based on my marks without taking another math class, but studying on my own, am I in or is it risky

?

MN

mathias_now · Post by **mathias_now** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:57 pm

How HARD exactly is the program? Do people who are focused on becoming a pilot usally fail out? Or is it the people who party, miss classes, and don't take their education seriously? I'm actully scared, because im 22 and so I only have one chance at it.

Let me know what you think.

MN

AUGER9 · Post by **AUGER9** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:48 pm

It's hard no matter how much work you put into it. BUT, the more you put in, the more you get out. There are some that spend all their time studying and still fail out. For the most part though, those that fail out aren't as determined- they do a pretty good job at weening out the ones that don't truly want it.

djsamphard · Post by **djsamphard** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:06 pm

I have a question about the requirements for the aviation program at confed. What i wanted to know was, is grade 11 Funtions math (UNI PREP) compulsory? I am doing grade 11 Personal Finance (College) and next semester ill be doing Grade 12 Technology (College) in night school. Will i have a problem getting into the program if i don't have the grade 11 functions? I e-mailed confed many times , but i have not gotten a response.

mathias_now · Post by **mathias_now** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:48 pm

I'm done high school, graduated with 34 credits, and I'm applying to Confed for September 08. Does anyone know if they give out early acceptances for oversubscribed programs? If so, when should I expect to hear from them?

MN

renfley · Post by **renfley** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:17 am

What if I can knock off my PPL before I go? Would that be beneficial?

MN

I wouldn't recommend it, first of all, why pay for it ahead of time when you can get it at Confed, second, when I attended Confed, people with a PPL were not given much flight time in the first year.

Taking a ground school course isn't a bad idea, you can even do a couple hours here and there if you want, but don't waste your money on a full license.

How hard exactly is the first and second semester and what classes should I pull up my socks for?

The first semester is probably the most difficult. Don't get me wrong, it aint impossible, it was designed to weed out the bad and the ones who weren't 110% committed. Your final (in semester 1) exam is worth 90% of your grade, so there's lot's of studying to do. For me this meant at least 3 hours a day and 5-8 hours on weekends.

I will start studying those subjects now. I have a lot of time on m hands, so I might as well put it to good use.

If your really that gung-ho, read from the ground up, know it inside out, especially the NAV, Air Law and MET sections. Get yourself a copy of the CARS for PPL's and the Air Command Weather Manual and read up!

Committing to a 4-year degree when you really don't seem too interested in academics might not be the best course

xsbank, confed's program is 2 years long or 5 semesters. your 3rd semester is during your first summer, that's when you do your float training, x-country flying and build up time for your CPL.

How HARD exactly is the program? Do people who are focused on becoming a pilot usually fail out? Or is it the people who party, miss classes, and don't take their education seriously? I'm actully scared, because im 22 and so I only have one chance at it.

The program is not impossible. Work hard at it take it seriously, it's ok to party once in a while, hell what would college be without some beer? Just don't make a habit of it. I found many people would spend all their free time at the pubs, most of them either failed out, or really suffered. Lot's of time, you'll want to fly but there isn't any room on the schedule, so, what I and many other did, is wait around in the dispatch office studying, and hoping someone wouldn't show up for their flight.

This is another thing that really bugs the crap out of me. People who took it for granted! I knew a bunch of people who would rather sleep in, or get drunk rather than flying. Not only does this show your lack of commitment ( which will nip you in the rear end when it comes time for your profs/instructors to give you a reference) but also shows how irresponsible you are.

One last thing, you you really wanna get ahead, I'd suggest taking a couple Gen Ed courses in college this will lighten up your workload during your time At Confed. I had some previous college credits that I got credited for and it did help quite a bit.[/quote]

PILOT23 · Post by **PILOT23** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:27 am

hi i am 22 yo and it seems we re in the same boat.
i called confederation last week and the addmission representative told me that i need grade 12 english(very recomded) and grade 12 math calculus(very recomended), i told the guy that i am takin english right now and i took grade 12 math equivalent at the university of Ottawa..the representative said that i am in the good route, before he hang up he added: take grade 12 physics next semester and other additional course

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