Chief Pilot/Operation Manager Private Forum

canadian_bacon · Post by **canadian_bacon** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:56 pm

I'm sure that most CPs and OMs have better things to do than talk about pilot resumes. With the implementation of SMS, new weights, constant regulatory changes, training standards, duty days, and just your everyday flight operations, I'm sure most will agree time is better spent on these items rather that a pilot bashing "free for all".

And for those pilots who think that your CP or OM doesn't know what it's like on the line, try sitting behind his/her desk for a day.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:29 am

Canadian_Bacon:

Exactly.

But remember these guys who are parnoid about this issue probably never held the position and their fears are based on tha actions of the O.M. 's and C.P.'s that work for the bottom feeders in the charter buisness.

And of course these are not true Ops managers and Chief Pilots.

They are window dressing to deflect accountability away form TC and the owner.

A dedicated group of real O.M.'s and C.P.'s would weed out these window dressing s.

Cat

Spaceship 2 · Post by **Spaceship 2** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:16 pm

Excuse my ignorance...

What the heck is SMS?

... · Post by **...** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:35 pm

Lets pretend this here thread is the CP's DFO's forum. I am a DFO looking for some advice on a certain topic that would make my job easier. Since I don't know who are the CP's or DFO's on here I ask in a forum environment.

Example:

Good day folks. I have an audit coming up next month. Transport wants to see the company "flight follower course" set up and ready. Does anyone have any info or point me in the right direction to satisfy the minimum requirement because I am swamped here at work and can't dedicate the time to do this right now.

Thanks y'all!

End of Example

So...like I said before, we are a bit too busy to be gossiping about stupid idiotic pilot/engineer gossip crap shit phuck.

You folks have a good day now.

IABD

whoa · Post by **whoa** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:44 pm

Again, you've just proven the point. Nothing is secret in aviation and with the chance someone might know who you are. Your toast. Just like that. I know at least twelve people on this site who have no idea who i am. Transports not that dumb. They have ways of following theads. So be careful and never let anyone know your swamped with your duties. Especially transport.

Tube Driver · Post by **Tube Driver** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:25 pm

I think Capt S&J has it right on. If there is even the smallest chance that even one persons career may me hurt by this forum, then it cannot be allowed. It would end up in a legal battle in which AV Canada would be sued by the person whos career was hurt. Just a heads up guys, it will become a liability issue. This fact should make you stop this before it ever happens.

canadian_bacon · Post by **canadian_bacon** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:22 am

good grief...

... · Post by **...** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:24 am

cpt sweet'njuicy wrote:.....hey lets pretend this is the cp/ops forum...

......hey ..any one know this sweet'njuicy guy...he just applied here...

....yeah i dont know him but i read his stuff on the net and people dont like him..he follows the rules and he'll snag our shitbox fleet so nothing moves till its made to work right..so fuk him
.....yeah that guy owned me on this site so ill never hire that fuker

....yeah he owns everyone on here..he beat me sensless with logic once and my small mans disease wont allow me to hire anyone thats smarter than me so dont do it..

.......ok so we all agree...i got some pretend friends at some shitpile airline that i can talk to and this guy will never do the job of flying planes properly again..

...this guy is blackballed because we were all able to conspire here on this forum..now the avcanada guy will shut us down so ill pm you with further details on how to derail this guys carreer

...ok thanks

...this guy is fuked

now let me guess...this cant happen easier here on this forum with aviation managers..as usual..im right

You reap what you sow.

FOR CAPT JUICY FRUIT:
However I understand your needs to have all things reflect everything on you. In fact I remember the Administrator stating once that this website is built around your needs. If everyone talks about you in the OPs CP forum...isn't it what you wanted in the first place...everyone talking about you all the time? Everything being about you?

FOR THE REST OF THE READERS:
No person that is not qualified on the type of aircraft you fly questions your professionalism, so should no one that is NOT qualified as a transport approved DFO/CP question the intentions of exchange of operational information between companies. Thats all it is...operational info exchange.

southbound · Post by **southbound** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 4:04 pm

FOR THE REST OF THE READERS:
No person that is not qualified on the type of aircraft you fly questions your professionalism, so should no one that is NOT qualified as a transport approved DFO/CP question the intentions of exchange of operational information between companies. Thats all it is...operational info exchange.

[b]I am bird dog[/b]....with all respect due to you! Dream on. In theory you are correct but that is it. I have been a CP for three yrs and I know.....your business is everybodys business because thats what people do in this business. I don't like it anymore than you do but thats the way it is...thats why this idea is bad news.

You know the old saying....." If a rumor hasn't been started by ten o'clock in the morning then you might as well start one yourself"

... · Post by **...** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:34 pm

southbound

Dude(tte) Of course everyone talks!!! You think stopping an all DFO/CP forum is gonna end that. Also there are laws guarding against any defamation of character and/or slander against anyone. Will this work all the time....no. All you need is to get busted once and you are in a lot of trouble. Deep trouble.

The owner of this site will not stand for any attacks on character. If someone calls looking for a reference on someone legally I cannot give a bad reference. A good one or none at all. Just confirming the start and end dates. If I called some company looking for a reference and that company told me just that,(start and end date), I would try the next company down the list...and if I got the same thing I would begin to wonder. 3rd time...well...

People in the DFO/CP positions that start rumours are amateurs. However I understand you concerns and there are 'evil doers' that would use that forum for crap like that.

However...not this kid.

I prefer people coming in and sitting down for a while. I always make time for people that make the drive to see us. 200 hours or 20000 hours. I did it. I know what it is like spending money criscrossing the country looking for work with no money to do it in the first place.

I will never treat anyone with disrespect...200 hours or 20000 hours. We are people first....professionals second.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:54 pm

And most of us fervently hope you never get into management.

I was thinking that we should take up a collection so we can send you a 45 gallon drum of vaseline so you can make it easier to " Take it from management "

... · Post by **...** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 2:03 pm

Ah Mr. Juice...your timing is predictable, your reply...stale & lacking in creativity. You're getting soft.

Since you are begging for a picture...I'll do one better, I'll have my people put you at the top of the mailing list for my fan club. But I kindly ask you not call the office as much anymore. The girls are over worked as it is with my fan mail. Would you consider working there part time...I think that is a good compromise. Beats posing as a cleaning lady just to get into my hotel room to smell my underwear?

southbound · Post by **southbound** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 2:10 pm

People in the DFO/CP positions that start rumours are amateurs. However I understand you concerns and there are 'evil doers' that would use that forum for crap like that.

However...not this kid.

I prefer people coming in and sitting down for a while. I always make time for people that make the drive to see us. 200 hours or 20000 hours. I did it. I know what it is like spending money criscrossing the country looking for work with no money to do it in the first place.

I will never treat anyone with disrespect...200 hours or 20000 hours. We are people first....professionals second.

I am bird dog.....................................I appreciate your comments above......but, what do they have to do with this site owners justification of a forum dedicated to CP's and OPS mngrs and their apparent need to collaberate on mngmt issues??????????????????? There was an indication of the fact that there had been numerous people interested in being involved........I would be very curious to see who they are and the organizations they represent.

... · Post by **...** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 2:31 pm

southbound wrote: I am bird dog.....................................I appreciate your comments above......but, what do they have to do with this site owners justification of a forum dedicated to CP's and OPS mngrs and their apparent need to collaberate on mngmt issues??????????????????? There was an indication of the fact that there had been numerous people interested in being involved........I would be very curious to see who they are and the organizations they represent.

(South...no need to copy and paste just click on the 'quote' button and you'll get the above effect on quoting me.

)

A meeting place perhaps. A sharing of ideas, and or questions about behind the scenes work of running a company that frontline people dont really see, or even care to see. DFO's and CP's generally work long hours and take their work home with them. Line people punch in punch out. And thats not a comment of superiority....I've been on both sides of the fence.

It would be nice to get to the point of the matter. Not having to shift through useless posts and rants about a posed question or concern. A targeted audience. If I want to ask a question of people that work for AC...I wouldn't go to the Jetsgo forum.

Who really knows, however if it's not tried or if it goes no where then so be it. Nothing ventured nothing gained.

... · Post by **...** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 2:38 pm

cpt sweet'njuicy wrote:...ill defend you, I am anything but worthy,

He was justifying his mod status and monolithic ego (puny genitals)
and hams for hands..he has no feet.. just a wet flipper to move peddals..

I thought I had a huge ego...oh wait... I do..

Alright Juiceman....I'll sign an autograph.

southbound · Post by **southbound** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 2:39 pm

That is true. Also thanks for the tip...based on that logic go for it then and we'll see where it goes.

Cheers

... · Post by **...** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:02 am

cpt sweet'njuicy wrote:when I stare at that hippo long enough...i sport wood

Ditto.......nice shades and bandana by the way!

When you've mastered flying straight and level @ FL190...come over and we'll let you try 60* bank turns 30 feet above burning trees all the while controlling traffic in and out of the restricted control zone and 4-500 hundred feet above your head. Afterwards Driving Rain and CLGuy would take you to school in the CL415 and your primitive instincts would put you in the fetal position. But we won't put you over actual fires at first. There arn't enough diapers and bonnets in the world for that exercise just yet.

southbound · Post by **southbound** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:08 am

Gawd she's got a nice ass.....If I was gay I'd be all over that.

Driving Rain · Post by **Driving Rain** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:16 pm

How bout creating a forum where we can discuss terrible chief pilots and ops managers we have known? We can make Sweetn' Juicy moderator.

... · Post by **...** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:21 pm

cpt sweet'njuicy wrote:ahahaha i love it when guys claim to be better pilots than each other...trust me..your job aint that tuff... my penis is bigger than your penis

"No sweetheart....you can't play with the big boy's just yet. Just stay here with your mother and sisters, son. And I don't want to see you squating when you pee!!"

southbound · Post by **southbound** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:59 pm

So whats the scoop here. Is this little CP, OPS MNGR forum going to start or what???