Naturalized Canadian Citizens at Air Canada

RIMsky · Post by **RIMsky** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:03 pm

I read somewhere, be it here or on Pprune, that somehow, the bigger companies tend to preffer people with Canadian names and ancestry. With the risk of getting bashed for asking this question, but at the same time feeling concerned because I am a Naturalized Canadian, actually grew up here as of 7 years old. So, is it true, that the big airliners or even the small ones have a tendency to preffer people with Canadian names?

Regards,

RIMsky

bob sacamano · Post by **bob sacamano** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:36 pm

With the politically correct company like AC, being a minority might work in your favour.

I would not worry about it, but use it to your advantage.

The best candidate for an AC job would be an African-Canadian female, that is pregnant, and has a dissability.

RIMsky · Post by **RIMsky** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:32 pm

bob sacamano wrote:With the politically correct company like AC, being a minority might work in your favour.

I would not worry about it, but use it to your advantage.

The best candidate for an AC job would be an African-Canadian female, that is pregnant, and has a dissability.

Well, to reply correctly to this, I am a perfectly healthy young man, of caucasian Eastern European race, and Thank God, no disabilities. My name is slavic though, I wonder if that could influence the HR to disregard my application?

Ref Plus 10 · Post by **Ref Plus 10** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:39 pm

Gotta say, if the likelihood of getting a job depended on a name, there'd be a few more lawsuits for discrimination around...

flying4dollars · Post by **flying4dollars** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:53 pm

RIMsky wrote:
bob sacamano wrote:With the politically correct company like AC, being a minority might work in your favour.

I would not worry about it, but use it to your advantage.

The best candidate for an AC job would be an African-Canadian female, that is pregnant, and has a dissability.
Well, to reply correctly to this, I am a perfectly healthy young man, of caucasian Eastern European race, and Thank God, no disabilities. My name is slavic though, I wonder if that could influence the HR to disregard my application?

if you're worried or concerned about the company you're applying to will judge contacting you based on your name/heritage...maybe you shouldn't be applying?

RIMsky · Post by **RIMsky** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:55 pm

flying4dollars wrote:
RIMsky wrote:
bob sacamano wrote:With the politically correct company like AC, being a minority might work in your favour.

I would not worry about it, but use it to your advantage.

The best candidate for an AC job would be an African-Canadian female, that is pregnant, and has a dissability.
Well, to reply correctly to this, I am a perfectly healthy young man, of caucasian Eastern European race, and Thank God, no disabilities. My name is slavic though, I wonder if that could influence the HR to disregard my application?

if you're worried or concerned about the company you're applying to will judge contacting you based on your name/heritage...maybe you shouldn't be applying?

I think anyone with a different name would be worried with such things. If you are an immigrant to Canada, then I accept what you just wrote. If not, in this case you cannot understand the fear of being prejudiced based upon your name, especially if your name is Canadian and has an english resonance, or even french to it.

Four1oh · Post by **Four1oh** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:19 pm

What's a canadian name? Sandeep? Chan? something ending in 'ski' or '.'? Can I get a ruling on this??

RIMsky · Post by **RIMsky** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:25 pm

Four1oh wrote:What's a canadian name? Sandeep? Chan? something ending in 'ski' or '.'? Can I get a ruling on this??

Well, anything that falls into the common ones, like the ones I would call: Tremblay, Filiatreault, Sommers, McCormick, it's pointless to give more examples, because looking for examples is a Goose chase here. But in my case, where my name rhymes with Dostoyevski Ghiorgy Ulovitovic (not my real name, but a similar example). It may sound premature to pronounce myself on this, but then again, the post here is not to judge which name is not Canadian, but to stipulate if HR for any Airliner, including AC,WJ,JAZZ, discriminate based upon this. At the same time, I do realize that it is a provocative issue here, and I hope that I am totally wrong, and that HR do not take the name and build prejudicial impressions based on that.

black hole · Post by **black hole** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:39 pm

wouldn' worry about it much unless your name was Cap'n Crunch Burns or F/O Rusty Bouncer. And as long as most people can get there tounge around it and if they can't they usually give you an affectionate nick name.

LuckyPilot · Post by **LuckyPilot** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:00 pm

Just had a look through my logbook, and I can honestly say whatever your last or first name is it won't hold you back. My own last name gets bastardsized all the time, and my family has been in North America for almost two hundred years. AC is not that type of company, if they were I wouldn't want to work here.

freakonature · Post by **freakonature** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:31 pm

RIMsky

I am sure the only problem you would have with a name that sound's like Ulovitovic is having a chest big enough to hold your name tag.

Be proud!

Tube Driver · Post by **Tube Driver** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:12 pm

The only problem in this whole thing is Rimsky. It sounds as if you are better suited to work for and recieve from some of our finer charter operators.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:16 pm

As in getting " Rimmed "

RIMsky · Post by **RIMsky** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:59 pm

freakonature wrote:RIMsky

I am sure the only problem you would have with a name that sound's like Ulovitovic is having a chest big enough to hold your name tag.

Be proud!

Thank you. And I thank you all once more.

Cheers

Four1oh · Post by **Four1oh** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:21 pm

RIMsky wrote:
bob sacamano wrote:With the politically correct company like AC, being a minority might work in your favour.

I would not worry about it, but use it to your advantage.

The best candidate for an AC job would be an African-Canadian female, that is pregnant, and has a dissability.
Well, to reply correctly to this, I am a perfectly healthy young man, of caucasian Eastern European race, and Thank God, no disabilities. My name is slavic though, I wonder if that could influence the HR to disregard my application?

My last name is slavic too, which means that no one confuses my my name with anyone else's!

RIMsky · Post by **RIMsky** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:25 pm

Four1oh wrote:
RIMsky wrote:
bob sacamano wrote:With the politically correct company like AC, being a minority might work in your favour.

I would not worry about it, but use it to your advantage.

The best candidate for an AC job would be an African-Canadian female, that is pregnant, and has a dissability.
Well, to reply correctly to this, I am a perfectly healthy young man, of caucasian Eastern European race, and Thank God, no disabilities. My name is slavic though, I wonder if that could influence the HR to disregard my application?
My last name is slavic too, which means that no one confuses my my name with anyone else's!

Thank you all. It helps to reassure to those insecurities. Thanks to you guys it ain't one of mine no more!

Cheers to y'all!

Dash-Ate · Post by **Dash-Ate** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:19 pm

Paging Hedley to the thread.

Wait until he learns that he's being replaced by a black lesbian in a wheelchair who is "more qualified" than him.

Trailer Park Boy · Post by **Trailer Park Boy** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:32 pm

I read somewhere, be it here or on Pprune, that somehow, the bigger companies tend to preffer people with Canadian names and ancestry

Companies perfer at least a grade 10 or/and a F___' N library card !!

N2 · Post by N2 » Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:54 pm

"I would like to obtain that little paper that says: Degree. People might say it isn't important, but I really plan on going to Europe to pilot thereafter"

Remember that statement, so why even ask about Air Canada?

RIMsky · Post by **RIMsky** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:32 pm

N2 wrote:"I would like to obtain that little paper that says: Degree. People might say it isn't important, but I really plan on going to Europe to pilot thereafter"

Remember that statement, so why even ask about Air Canada?

Keeping an optimistic attitude.

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:10 am

Paging Hedley to the thread.

Huh? What did I do now?

Wait until he learns that he's being replaced
by a black lesbian in a wheelchair who is "more qualified"
than him.

Hah. If it makes you feel any better Rimjob, AC wouldn't
hire me in a MEELLION years, even though I have a BSc,
thousands of hours, an ATPL, and the most whitebread name
you can imagine

I can just imagine the interview:

AC: "Mr Hedley. We have letters here from 37 captains here
at AC saying that we should not hire you. What is your response
to that?"

Hedley: "Gosh, I'm sure glad those guys are your problem
and not mine"

AC: "Have you ever been convicted of violating the Canadian
Aviation Regulations?"

Hedley: "um ... how much time do you have scheduled for this interview?".

Mitch Cronin · Post by **Mitch Cronin** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:29 am

No worries Rimsky... you should see the names at AC! ... a role call at the United Nations wouldn't sound much different.

DHC3Rwannafly · Post by **DHC3Rwannafly** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:51 pm

Browse some Canadian companies on pilotcareercenter.com and check out some of the CP's names. There's a few I don't think I know how to pronounce correctly....

wxnut · Post by **wxnut** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:00 am

Godoussey here ... lol could that pass as french?