how long does TC take to mail your private license? its been 3 month's and I still havent recieved any documents from them.
Thanks
Moe
QUESTION????
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moetorious
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3 Months !? 
Another TC SNAFU !!!
I'd give them a call ASAP ! Normally if I don't get anything after 6 weeks, I usually give them a shout to see where they are in the process. If after 8 weeks still no dice, then I go and visit them at the office.
Another TC SNAFU !!!I'd give them a call ASAP ! Normally if I don't get anything after 6 weeks, I usually give them a shout to see where they are in the process. If after 8 weeks still no dice, then I go and visit them at the office.
"A good traveller has no fixed plan and is not intent on arriving." -Lao Tzu
yeah thats way too long, if you are able to get to an office they can print it out for you while you wait. i have done that on 2 occasions in the past and as Grey wolf says, a call would never hurt.
you shouldn't really be waiting more than a month if all your work is in order. although if you didn't submit your application in pristine condition they take longer
you shouldn't really be waiting more than a month if all your work is in order. although if you didn't submit your application in pristine condition they take longer
In the Pacific Region the paperwork has to be absolutely correct!
If you are relying on your instructor or the school to submit your paperwork, start there!
Sometimes the AP has lost your application in the bottom of the pile.
I recently discovered one student's paperwork had not been submitted. Her SPP had been signed by the AP about 8 weeks before but the logbook and PTR had not been checked through for mistakes and to ensure all exercises and the groundschool had been properly completed.
She wasn't my student, but I was so annoyed I took it on myself to check it all out, fix the mistakes and get the paperwork submitted via the AP.
It was all done in a couple of days...
The logbook must agree with the PTR.
All exercises require a P, and a D, and many require an S as well.
People reading this should know the following about what I want to see:
1. The PTR completed every flight with notes so I know where the student has problems etc.
2. The PTR written up neatly and in one colour! I hate to see blue, black, green, and no not red, please not red, on the same page!
3. Likewise the Pilot Logbook.
The neatness of your logbook is a testiment of who you are... There's a lot an employer can read into the way you write your logbook.
The neatness of a PTR is a testiment to the instructor... A messy one indicates a lax instructor and one wonders whether the quality of instruction is indicated by the mess in the PTR!
4. Write up the Groundschool every time you go... Do not wait until the end and have to dredge through months of attendance sheets!
If the instructor gives preparatory ground briefings these count as groundschool and so should be entered in the PTR afterwards.
5. Make sure every page is signed...
6. Make sure the PPL solo authorisation is signed too... I've seen too many PTRs without this signature at the end of a student's PPL training.
What if your instructor has left for a job in the Seychelles? You can't get the solo signature then!
Blimey, I sound like a Transport Canada Inspector and I'm not even an AP!
If you are relying on your instructor or the school to submit your paperwork, start there!
Sometimes the AP has lost your application in the bottom of the pile.
I recently discovered one student's paperwork had not been submitted. Her SPP had been signed by the AP about 8 weeks before but the logbook and PTR had not been checked through for mistakes and to ensure all exercises and the groundschool had been properly completed.
She wasn't my student, but I was so annoyed I took it on myself to check it all out, fix the mistakes and get the paperwork submitted via the AP.
It was all done in a couple of days...
The logbook must agree with the PTR.
All exercises require a P, and a D, and many require an S as well.
People reading this should know the following about what I want to see:
1. The PTR completed every flight with notes so I know where the student has problems etc.
2. The PTR written up neatly and in one colour! I hate to see blue, black, green, and no not red, please not red, on the same page!
3. Likewise the Pilot Logbook.
The neatness of your logbook is a testiment of who you are... There's a lot an employer can read into the way you write your logbook.
The neatness of a PTR is a testiment to the instructor... A messy one indicates a lax instructor and one wonders whether the quality of instruction is indicated by the mess in the PTR!
4. Write up the Groundschool every time you go... Do not wait until the end and have to dredge through months of attendance sheets!
If the instructor gives preparatory ground briefings these count as groundschool and so should be entered in the PTR afterwards.
5. Make sure every page is signed...
6. Make sure the PPL solo authorisation is signed too... I've seen too many PTRs without this signature at the end of a student's PPL training.
What if your instructor has left for a job in the Seychelles? You can't get the solo signature then!
Blimey, I sound like a Transport Canada Inspector and I'm not even an AP!
!MC wrote:in addition, the endorsed SPP has a limited lifespan, 3 months i think.
that's right 
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"A good traveller has no fixed plan and is not intent on arriving." -Lao Tzu
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Chuck Ellsworth
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Why can't you record your comments on a recorder about the students performance for each lesson instead of having to write it in a PTR?
The most difficult thing about flying is knowing when to say no.
After over a half a century of flying I can not remember even one trip that I refused to do that resulted in someone getting killed because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying I can not remember even one trip that I refused to do that resulted in someone getting killed because of my decision not to fly.
I started to learn to play the recorder because Norma Garnet was in the school band and I liked her a lot.... Oops, wrong topic....Why can't you record your comments on a recorder
It's because the power of the pen is greater than the sword!
Mind you, I'd hate to swallow my sword!
If written in the PTR these words show the trend of a student's progress, and ink is better than batteries.
I hate it when I see all the D's and nothing to state a student's weaknesses and give me guidance as to the best training I could give.
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moetorious
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Check with Toronto Airways first... If they've lapsed then let them sort it out with a little pressure from yourself.
If you go to TC first and they haven't got your paperwork you might put TA under the spotlight...
It never pays to bring trouble upon someone if there's a tactful/diplomatic way to do it.
If you go to TC first and they haven't got your paperwork you might put TA under the spotlight...
It never pays to bring trouble upon someone if there's a tactful/diplomatic way to do it.
I would agree for sure that the flight school could be missing info to send, but I mean the instructor should go over with you to make sure that all the info has been submitted clearly and completely.
Personnaly for me, it has been all TC, they wouldn't give me my commercial because I was missing .2 instrument. After they recalculated my hours they suddenly sent my licence... For my class 3, I call them up and this is what the lady says:
Ok, so your paperwork has been reviewed.... we have cashed your cheque... oh, whats this? I'll call you back in 5 minutes.
Next thing I know my class 3 is being faxed to me...
Personnaly for me, it has been all TC, they wouldn't give me my commercial because I was missing .2 instrument. After they recalculated my hours they suddenly sent my licence... For my class 3, I call them up and this is what the lady says:
Ok, so your paperwork has been reviewed.... we have cashed your cheque... oh, whats this? I'll call you back in 5 minutes.
Next thing I know my class 3 is being faxed to me...
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valvelifter
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In my case, the same happened while waiting for my PPL. TC sent a letter to the examiner who signed my license for some explanation but he never replied. They sent another one (according to TC) with still no reply. It then died there until I called TC 3 months later. I made it clear I needed my official license soon as my temp was expiring that week and they sent me my license within a week after the examiner sent the necessary info.
Re: QUESTION????
I ended up waiting over 6 months before TC finally got me my license. According to Toronto Airways, they sent in the paperwork, etc. twice and TC lost it both times (so I was told) so they hand delivered it to TC.
Speak to Toronto Airways and explain the situation. They'll approve an extension of your temp license if TC has messed up (which they probably have)
Speak to Toronto Airways and explain the situation. They'll approve an extension of your temp license if TC has messed up (which they probably have)
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moetorious
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Re: QUESTION????
kzcvtm wrote:I ended up waiting over 6 months before TC finally got me my license. According to Toronto Airways, they sent in the paperwork, etc. twice and TC lost it both times (so I was told) so they hand delivered it to TC.
Speak to Toronto Airways and explain the situation. They'll approve an extension of your temp license if TC has messed up (which they probably have)
Yeah went to today to transport canada, and they messed up... they said that they dont have any record of me applying for my PPL and toronto airways told me that they send it in october... now toronto airways is goign to make a copy of everythign and mail it to me so I can hand deliver it to TC.
