hello everyone
What's the lifestyle like at Thunder Bay and Sault Ste. Marie?? I'm living in Waterloo right now and want to know how it compares. also are there any asian people up there?
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Thunder Bay/Sault Ste. Marie
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I've lived in both places, and they are very similar northern Ontario cities. Biggest difference is there are lots of Italians in the Sault, and lots of Finns in Thunder Bay 
. Both places have great outdoor rec stuff (hunting, fishing, hiking, etc) very close to the city limits (if not within). Both have decent ski hills. Both are very close to the US border. The Sault has more Asians from what I recall.
I'd highly recommend both cities, they're great places to live.
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. Both places have great outdoor rec stuff (hunting, fishing, hiking, etc) very close to the city limits (if not within). Both have decent ski hills. Both are very close to the US border. The Sault has more Asians from what I recall.I'd highly recommend both cities, they're great places to live.
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Hey! Is Great Lakes Forest Products still in operation? I madehuge mill that's about a mile from the city
great money there when I was going to school back in 1980.
Another big employer in YQT used to be the grain mills.
There's a really nice grass strip out in Murillo, near Kakabeka
Falls. I learned to fly there, back in 1975
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Both cities have lots to offer,especially for the outdoors. Although they are cities they feel like small towns. YQT airport is in the city but YAM is a small drive. Depending on the wind direction YQT can smell pretty rank on a good day(paper Mill), but has some interesting places to eat, I'm dreaming of Persians right now! If you move to YQT go to the Persian Man and The Hoito.
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Re: Thunder Bay/Sault Ste. Marie
Don't know about SSM, but it gets COLD here in the winter - Expect -40 day and night for 2 weeks every winter. Just guessing, I'd say SSM wd have more Asians, TBay more First Nation peoples. Very few choices re. ethnic restaurants - the lack of restaurant variety can be depressing... The GREATEST part is that TBay is on the edge of the time zone border - which means our evenings in the summer are TONS longer than anywhere else in the prov. I've enjoyed it here, but hubby and I are now looking at moving to Costa Rica - warm sunshine all year round..aaahhh
nemesest wrote:hello everyone
What's the lifestyle like at Thunder Bay and Sault Ste. Marie?? I'm living in Waterloo right now and want to know how it compares. also are there any asian people up there?
cheers
Tbay is the sh*t! i'm from london, went to tbay for school, and now back in london and i'm missing it every day. totally different mindset in people and never a dull moment. summers are short but every day is 25 to 30 with light winds and no humidity. if you don't like hiking and camping you will once your there. southern ontario sucks.
Not too many asians, what does that matter anyway?
Not too many asians, what does that matter anyway?
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Lack of ethnic food? Are you kidding me? Awesome Chinese, Thai, Viet, Italian, Greek, Finnish food in YQT.
I agree with Stevo, YQT is awesome. I spent 5 or so years there and it was some of the best times I've had. I only wish there was more for me there in my line of work so that I could go back.
Thunder Bay has alot to offer, but you have to go there with an open mind. If you do, you will have a great time.
Never lived in SSM, nothing there for me, but passed through it countless times and couldn't help but shudder and thank the good christ I didn't live there, in what appeared to be quite the shit-hole. Perhaps it's different if you have to live there.
I agree with Stevo, YQT is awesome. I spent 5 or so years there and it was some of the best times I've had. I only wish there was more for me there in my line of work so that I could go back.
Thunder Bay has alot to offer, but you have to go there with an open mind. If you do, you will have a great time.
Never lived in SSM, nothing there for me, but passed through it countless times and couldn't help but shudder and thank the good christ I didn't live there, in what appeared to be quite the shit-hole. Perhaps it's different if you have to live there.
If you liked Thunder Bay, you'd like the Sault as well. Very similar cities with the same northern Ontario feel. I give Thunder Bay a slight edge because of the Hoito's pancakes!shimmydampner wrote:Never lived in SSM, nothing there for me, but passed through it countless times and couldn't help but shudder and thank the good christ I didn't live there, in what appeared to be quite the shit-hole. Perhaps it's different if you have to live there.
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Yes, definitely lack of ethnic food - there are many good Asian restaurants, some excellent Italian - the Greek sucked - I make better baklava and I'm Italian! Finn food is great too. No german, swiss, very few Indian . . . The variety of food equals the variety of radio stations here LOL
shimmydampner wrote:Lack of ethnic food? Are you kidding me? Awesome Chinese, Thai, Viet, Italian, Greek, Finnish food in YQT.
I agree with Stevo, YQT is awesome. <snip>.
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Maybe you're just going to the wrong Greek places.
Keep in mind Thunder Bay is 8 hours from anywhere and has a population of a little more than 100,000. If you want some german food, just grab a beer and stick a Brat on the BBQ.
Fortunately, the groceries stores are well stocked with every type of ethnic food you could hope for, so if you really need some, you can get off the computer, get to Safeway and get cooking.
Radio everywhere sucks, that's why god invented Sirius.
Keep in mind Thunder Bay is 8 hours from anywhere and has a population of a little more than 100,000. If you want some german food, just grab a beer and stick a Brat on the BBQ.
Fortunately, the groceries stores are well stocked with every type of ethnic food you could hope for, so if you really need some, you can get off the computer, get to Safeway and get cooking.
Radio everywhere sucks, that's why god invented Sirius.
what does that say about Toronto then? hmmmm
http://www.chroniclejournal.com/stories ... p?id=79890
OTTAWA - Calgary is the best Canadian city in which to live and the third best in North America, a Conference Board study suggests.
The report rates urban centres’ attractiveness along seven main categories, such as economy, housing and health, and 46 sub-categories, such as commuting time and crime. The top six cities were Calgary, Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton, Victoria and Ottawa-Gatineau.
The study primarily tracks the economic fortunes of cities in Canada, accounting for Calgary’s top spot and Edmonton’s fourth-place ranking.
At the reverse end, municipalities that have been devastated by the deterioration of the manufacturing sector, such as Thunder Bay, Ont.; Saint John, N.B.; Saguenay, Que.; and Windsor, Ont., trailing the list.
"But it’s not just the booming economy that is attractive about Calgary," said Mario Lefebvre, director of the board’s municipal studies centre.
"Calgary ranks high in education, environment is in the middle of the pack, on health they are near the top, even housing affordability is a surprise, so Calgary doesn’t fail in any of the (categories)."
"And it’s not just me who likes Calgary. The population has increased by 10 per cent over the past five years, so it seems a lot of people like Calgary."
In second spot, Toronto was marked below Calgary because of a weaker economic situation and housing affordability problems.
"Toronto’s strength comes from its diverse, young and culturally rich society, supported by good health care and generally outstanding health outcomes," said the report. Toronto scored first in the country for its 80.5 years’ life expectancy, four years more than Thunder Bay.
"However, there are clouds on the horizon. The income disparity between Toronto’s immigrant and non-immigrant populations is at best disappointing and at worst a threat to Toronto’s future."
Overall, the study shows that "size matters" in the appeal of communities, because big centres can offer a wider range of inducements, ranging from economic opportunities to cultural activities.
Five of the top six spots in the overall ranking - the only ones with an overall A grade-were taken up by Canada biggest cities.
The lone exception was Montreal, with the second-highest population but 14th on the list, because of its poor scores on economic factors and the environment, such things as usage of municipal drinking water, climate and clean air.
In the second tier, with an average B score, Halifax led the pack, followed by Oshawa, Ont.; Kitchener, Ont.; Abbotsford, B.C; and Quebec City.
Thunder Bay scored worst among the 27 cities graded, with D grades (the lowest) in four of the seven major categories: economy, health, society and innovation.
The Conference Board also attempted to compare Canadian cities with those in the U.S., but cautions the analysis is not as complete because fewer indicators were available.
Still, Calgary scored high even against this measure, placing third behind Washington and Austin, Tex., and is the only Canadian city in the top 10. Four other Canadian cities did crack the top 20: Toronto, Edmonton, Vancouver and Ottawa-Gatineau.
Perhaps the biggest surprise is Vancouver’s low placing in both lists since the city that bills itself as Lotus Land often scores among the best places to live in the world in other lists.
Lefebvre says most surveys he’s seen only use a dozen or so indicators, while the Conference Board’s 46 indicators offers a more complete picture.
And he notes that the indicators used by the study match closely to how people are actually voting with their feet. Calgary also led the country in attracting people between 2002 and 2006 as a percentage of population, followed by Oshawa, Toronto, Edmonton and Vancouver, all cities that rank high on the board attractiveness list.
Vancouver did score high on the health, environment and economy indicators, but it "fell down hard on matters of crime and housing affordability," Lefebvre said.
Vancouver had the worst drug-related crime in the country, the report said. And the city scored worst of the 27 cities on housing affordability, homeowners spending a whopping 42 per cent of their income on mortgage payments.
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Here are the rankings and overall grades from the Conference Board of Canada’s first-ever survey of cities with a population of more than 100,000:
1. Calgary A
2. Toronto A
3. Vancouver A
4. Edmonton A
5. Victoria A
6. Ottawa-Gatineau A
7. Halifax B
8. Oshawa B
9. Kitchener-Waterloo B
10.Abbotsford B
11.Quebec City B
12.Sherbrooke B
13.Saskatoon B
14.Montreal B
15.Hamilton B
16.St. John’s B
17.Regina B
18.London C
19.Winnipeg C
20.Kingston C
21.Greater Sudbury C
22.Trois-Rivieres C
23.Windsor C
24.St. Catharines-Niagara C
25.Saguenay D
26.Saint John D
27.Thunder Bay D
OTTAWA - Calgary is the best Canadian city in which to live and the third best in North America, a Conference Board study suggests.
The report rates urban centres’ attractiveness along seven main categories, such as economy, housing and health, and 46 sub-categories, such as commuting time and crime. The top six cities were Calgary, Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton, Victoria and Ottawa-Gatineau.
The study primarily tracks the economic fortunes of cities in Canada, accounting for Calgary’s top spot and Edmonton’s fourth-place ranking.
At the reverse end, municipalities that have been devastated by the deterioration of the manufacturing sector, such as Thunder Bay, Ont.; Saint John, N.B.; Saguenay, Que.; and Windsor, Ont., trailing the list.
"But it’s not just the booming economy that is attractive about Calgary," said Mario Lefebvre, director of the board’s municipal studies centre.
"Calgary ranks high in education, environment is in the middle of the pack, on health they are near the top, even housing affordability is a surprise, so Calgary doesn’t fail in any of the (categories)."
"And it’s not just me who likes Calgary. The population has increased by 10 per cent over the past five years, so it seems a lot of people like Calgary."
In second spot, Toronto was marked below Calgary because of a weaker economic situation and housing affordability problems.
"Toronto’s strength comes from its diverse, young and culturally rich society, supported by good health care and generally outstanding health outcomes," said the report. Toronto scored first in the country for its 80.5 years’ life expectancy, four years more than Thunder Bay.
"However, there are clouds on the horizon. The income disparity between Toronto’s immigrant and non-immigrant populations is at best disappointing and at worst a threat to Toronto’s future."
Overall, the study shows that "size matters" in the appeal of communities, because big centres can offer a wider range of inducements, ranging from economic opportunities to cultural activities.
Five of the top six spots in the overall ranking - the only ones with an overall A grade-were taken up by Canada biggest cities.
The lone exception was Montreal, with the second-highest population but 14th on the list, because of its poor scores on economic factors and the environment, such things as usage of municipal drinking water, climate and clean air.
In the second tier, with an average B score, Halifax led the pack, followed by Oshawa, Ont.; Kitchener, Ont.; Abbotsford, B.C; and Quebec City.
Thunder Bay scored worst among the 27 cities graded, with D grades (the lowest) in four of the seven major categories: economy, health, society and innovation.
The Conference Board also attempted to compare Canadian cities with those in the U.S., but cautions the analysis is not as complete because fewer indicators were available.
Still, Calgary scored high even against this measure, placing third behind Washington and Austin, Tex., and is the only Canadian city in the top 10. Four other Canadian cities did crack the top 20: Toronto, Edmonton, Vancouver and Ottawa-Gatineau.
Perhaps the biggest surprise is Vancouver’s low placing in both lists since the city that bills itself as Lotus Land often scores among the best places to live in the world in other lists.
Lefebvre says most surveys he’s seen only use a dozen or so indicators, while the Conference Board’s 46 indicators offers a more complete picture.
And he notes that the indicators used by the study match closely to how people are actually voting with their feet. Calgary also led the country in attracting people between 2002 and 2006 as a percentage of population, followed by Oshawa, Toronto, Edmonton and Vancouver, all cities that rank high on the board attractiveness list.
Vancouver did score high on the health, environment and economy indicators, but it "fell down hard on matters of crime and housing affordability," Lefebvre said.
Vancouver had the worst drug-related crime in the country, the report said. And the city scored worst of the 27 cities on housing affordability, homeowners spending a whopping 42 per cent of their income on mortgage payments.
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Here are the rankings and overall grades from the Conference Board of Canada’s first-ever survey of cities with a population of more than 100,000:
1. Calgary A
2. Toronto A
3. Vancouver A
4. Edmonton A
5. Victoria A
6. Ottawa-Gatineau A
7. Halifax B
8. Oshawa B
9. Kitchener-Waterloo B
10.Abbotsford B
11.Quebec City B
12.Sherbrooke B
13.Saskatoon B
14.Montreal B
15.Hamilton B
16.St. John’s B
17.Regina B
18.London C
19.Winnipeg C
20.Kingston C
21.Greater Sudbury C
22.Trois-Rivieres C
23.Windsor C
24.St. Catharines-Niagara C
25.Saguenay D
26.Saint John D
27.Thunder Bay D
