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Hi,

I was curious. I currently speak 4 languages, out of which 3 of them are really sought. Those being English, French, Spanish, and I am starting up German in January. What is the outlook for Airline Carriers? To what point do they consider your speaking of these languages an advantage, and how much can it help you in your job hunt. I would like to know before I go and pay for German, which costs 500$ for 14 weeks, and that is just the beginners course. I didn't take books, or audio books, or computer programs, they might work for some, but in my case, I need a teacher, human interaction.

Thus final question, being pentalingual by the time I get a degree and my flight school, plus 2 musical instruments, and been working for Customer Service for about 3 years now, how's that sound on an application? Oh yeah, and I`ll only have 250 hours of flight.....that's the cherry on top of the sundae..ok maybe not, but still give me your opinion :) ;)
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My opinion is if you are that smart you should be giving advice to the people who read Avcanada....not asking for it.
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Cat Driver wrote:My opinion is if you are that smart you should be giving advice to the people who read Avcanada....not asking for it.

Such gratuity. Damn, lol. I guess I got my answer.
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English
Canadian
American
C
Assembly (x86, ppc, mips, sh, arm).

I guess that's 5, or 9 if you count all the assembly
language variants.
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Why don't you spend that $500 on some lap dances instead. You need to loosen up. $400 at Chez, $100 to charity...everybody happy.
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was curious. I currently speak 4 languages, out of which 3 of them are really sought. Those being English, French, Spanish, and I am starting up German in January.
Interesting how you count German????
I am gonna start Cantonese courses next week, so I speak Cantonese???

Look man, if I were you save the cash towards flying. You already speak the three most popular languages on this side of the earth. That's more then the norm!

I did German 2 years ago.....studied every night & still bombed it! It's super hard language & it's difficult...no real logic!
Three genders that are mixed

For ex: Young women........das madchen......is neutral! Why??????
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THEICEMAN wrote:
was curious. I currently speak 4 languages, out of which 3 of them are really sought. Those being English, French, Spanish, and I am starting up German in January.
Interesting how you count German????
I am gonna start Cantonese courses next week, so I speak Cantonese???

Look man, if I were you save the cash towards flying. You already speak the three most popular languages on this side of the earth. That's more then the norm!

I did German 2 years ago.....studied every night & still bombed it! It's super hard language & it's difficult...no real logic!
Three genders that are mixed

For ex: Young women........das madchen......is neutral! Why??????

LOL.. well I think I misphrased it. You can`t technically say you speak a language until you master it in 3 areas. Thus, reading, speaking and writing. But, I suppose continous courses, with speaking groups eventually will start making sense. Languages are all about devotion and how much you want to learn them. If you're passionate for their culture, movies, music and so on and so forth, even better!
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I guess.....I always sucked at languages. I'm more of a Math & Physics person.

But if there is one thing I learned about languages, is that you need to practise alot. In Montreal, not much german around???

If you really want to learn German....spend a month in Germany! Lot's of fun over there too....too much fun!
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THEICEMAN wrote:I guess.....I always sucked at languages. I'm more of a Math & Physics person.

But if there is one thing I learned about languages, is that you need to practise alot. In Montreal, not much german around???

If you really want to learn German....spend a month in Germany! Lot's of fun over there too....too much fun!
Yup, I've always sucked at languages myself. My English is fine. But I've taken French for several years, and German for a couple, and nothing came of it. I've got enough of a base of both languages where I think if I were put in a sink or swim situation by living where I would have to speak one of the two languages, I would pick it up. But I do not have the money or time for that unfortunately.

RIMsky, I do not know if multiple languages are that important on this side of the pond. Before you worry about a $500 introductory German course, I'd worry more about that massive JAA conversion fee....
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L1011 wrote:
THEICEMAN wrote:I guess.....I always sucked at languages. I'm more of a Math & Physics person.

But if there is one thing I learned about languages, is that you need to practise alot. In Montreal, not much german around???

If you really want to learn German....spend a month in Germany! Lot's of fun over there too....too much fun!
Yup, I've always sucked at languages myself. My English is fine. But I've taken French for several years, and German for a couple, and nothing came of it. I've got enough of a base of both languages where I think if I were put in a sink or swim situation by living where I would have to speak one of the two languages, I would pick it up. But I do not have the money or time for that unfortunately.

RIMsky, I do not know if multiple languages are that important on this side of the pond. Before you worry about a $500 introductory German course, I'd worry more about that massive JAA conversion fee....
Well last summer I worked for a company, we have a fair amount of German people. It`s all a question of being fluent in German, getting cultured in it. Spanish is my fourth language and I`m very fluent in it. I watch TV in Spanish, I have spanish friends, my cellphone interface is in spanish. It`s all about making your everyday life in another language until it eventually sticks to you like glue. Of course, if you don`t take time to practice and do lessons, obviously, it will slowly fade away.
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For ex: Young women........das madchen......is neutral! Why??????
Because she's pre-puberty, unable to reproduce, and thus not a full blown female. Hence the neutral. That's what I figger.

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THEICEMAN wrote:


For ex: Young women........das madchen......is neutral! Why??????
I hope your not serious? Its basic german that 'chen' as an ending = das

German is actually an easy language to learn and read. Its english that has all those rules and exceptions but of course we don't think its hard because we use it all the time.

Learning a language is ok but if you dont use it, its a waste of money.
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niwre wrote:
THEICEMAN wrote:


For ex: Young women........das madchen......is neutral! Why??????
I hope your not serious? Its basic german that 'chen' as an ending = das

German is actually an easy language to learn and read. Its english that has all those rules and exceptions but of course we don't think its hard because we use it all the time.

Learning a language is ok but if you dont use it, its a waste of money.
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Re: How many languages do you need to speak?

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I speak 5 fluently my self. The advantages maybe don't come up everyday... it's not like you're going to help a sick passenger everyday ... one day spanish, one day english, one day french ... lol.

It never hurts to be more qualified, it makes you stand out, and as far as I know, at ACA knowing french is a big bonus. Have at it, and spend ur 500 bucks for 2.5 hrs of PIC XC hrs ... it's worth more if you ask me.


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RIMsky wrote:Hi,

I was curious. I currently speak 4 languages, out of which 3 of them are really sought. Those being English, French, Spanish, and I am starting up German in January. What is the outlook for Airline Carriers? To what point do they consider your speaking of these languages an advantage, and how much can it help you in your job hunt. I would like to know before I go and pay for German, which costs 500$ for 14 weeks, and that is just the beginners course. I didn't take books, or audio books, or computer programs, they might work for some, but in my case, I need a teacher, human interaction.

Thus final question, being pentalingual by the time I get a degree and my flight school, plus 2 musical instruments, and been working for Customer Service for about 3 years now, how's that sound on an application? Oh yeah, and I`ll only have 250 hours of flight.....that's the cherry on top of the sundae..ok maybe not, but still give me your opinion :) ;)
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niwre wrote:
THEICEMAN wrote:


For ex: Young women........das madchen......is neutral! Why??????
I hope your not serious? Its basic german that 'chen' as an ending = das

German is actually an easy language to learn and read. Its english that has all those rules and exceptions but of course we don't think its hard because we use it all the time.

Learning a language is ok but if you dont use it, its a waste of money.
Yes of course....but it's still a young girl! Should it not be feminin?

On the most part, there is no logic behind the language, it comes mostly by memory or practise.
This is mostly true regarding gender nouns.

Italian & Spanish are easy languages to learn.....not German!
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THEICEMAN wrote:
niwre wrote:
THEICEMAN wrote: I hope your not serious? Its basic german that 'chen' as an ending = das

German is actually an easy language to learn and read. Its english that has all those rules and exceptions but of course we don't think its hard because we use it all the time.

Learning a language is ok but if you dont use it, its a waste of money.
Yes of course....but it's still a young girl! Should it not be feminin?

On the most part, there is no logic behind the language, it comes mostly by memory or practise.
This is mostly true regarding gender nouns.

Italian & Spanish are easy languages to learn.....not German!
NO!! '---chen' = das

gender nouns are pretty easy in German maybe you should have paid more attention to them
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My first language being italian i must say English is the easiest language to learn... there's very few rules... french is tricky but for me wasn't as bad because of the similarity with italian.
German is hard!

Anyways since I already know 3 languages I'd rather focus on my training... there's always time later on to get an extra degree and stuff...

I was told the airlines are not gonna hire you if you know 5 languages, have a degree and 200h... but they might hire you if you have no degree and 3000h.
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How many languages do you need to speak?



To be a pilot....one...acording to ICAO .....English
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Cat Driver wrote:How many languages do you need to speak?



To be a pilot....one...acording to ICAO .....English
Frankly, you're right. But each language is a little push-up into your application. The more you demonstrate and sell yourself, with all abilities, degrees, languages, community involvement, links to aviation, anything that looks good on an application, the more you have a chance of getting that interview...ohh that interview!! :P
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niwre wrote:
THEICEMAN wrote:
niwre wrote: Yes of course....but it's still a young girl! Should it not be feminin?

On the most part, there is no logic behind the language, it comes mostly by memory or practise.
This is mostly true regarding gender nouns.

Italian & Spanish are easy languages to learn.....not German!
NO!! '---chen' = das

gender nouns are pretty easy in German maybe you should have paid more attention to them
Whatever man...easy for you. But from i learned, there is barely no logic behind the noun genders. It's all by memorization.

There is no logic behind the language like Italian, spanish or French.
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Whatever man...easy for you. But from i learned, there is barely no logic behind the noun genders. It's all by memorization.

There is no logic behind the language like Italian, spanish or French.
As I restate maybe you should have studied more and you would have understood the noun genders better. Its not all by memorization. Maybe its your teacher/instructor but I am more inclined to believe there was a lack of study or understanding. English out of all five languages make the least sense linguistically but we don't say that because we use it every day. The more often you use a language the better you know and understand it.

Example if you took French immersion k-12 you would understand the language very well can call it a simple language but if you try to get someone to learn it as an adult it can be difficult. Same thing with German you have someone learn it from kindergarten on it will be a simple language to understand.

But in my view don't spend the money on learning a language just for the sake of it. If your gonna use it even semi-regularly ok but if you wont use it for years then it is good as useless other than knowing the essentials like I want more beer and where's the bathroom.

Good on you for knowing 4? languages but to call one confusing or that it does not make sense is all personal interpretation.
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ok...to end this debate then.....let's take a poll! I guarantee you that the majority of people will conquer that German is not easy to learn.

Of course it's easier when your a kid and you learn the language from k-11or12 . But when your in university or in your early to mid 20s...German is not the easiest language to learn to say the least.
According to my teacher, "there is no logic to gender nouns, you have to memorize it." maybe I interpreted wrong or not? Sure, I tuned out here & there......But relative to Italian ....German not soo simple!
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THEICEMAN wrote:ok...to end this debate then.....let's take a poll! I guarantee you that the majority of people will conquer that German is not easy to learn.

Of course it's easier when your a kid and you learn the language from k-11or12 . But when your in university or in your early to mid 20s...German is not the easiest language to learn to say the least.
According to my teacher, "there is no logic to gender nouns, you have to memorize it." maybe I interpreted wrong or not? Sure, I tuned out here & there......But relative to Italian ....German not soo simple!
All of my family members speak german or have taken classes for 3-5 years and to be frank, out of not practicing, they've all forgotten it. I have to say that I have to agree with THEICEMAN on this one. Most languages though, are memorizing at first, it's only when you master it that it starts to make sense. I learn English through elementary school, it never made sense to me, it just poured into my brain and somehow, today I speak it. Same with French. Spanish "personal project", I mean come on spanish chicks love it when you speak it!! 8) But, it's all memorizing down the line, and only then will it make sense. So I guess everyone is right! :)
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Guessing from the students I've seen lately you might want to learn Mandarin or Hindi (hope I spelt that right)
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you dont need to learn german at all. my dad speaks german but he never used it.

my suggestions are:
English
French
Spanish
Arabic or chineese
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