Mountie gets off for slaying drunk kid in custody.

Wilbur · Post by **Wilbur** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:46 am

Probably the same type a farmer would use; a guy named Matt Hughes - former UFC middle weight champ. What the hell does the guy's job have to do with his ability to choke out someone?

grimey · Post by **grimey** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:24 am

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Nark · Post by **Nark** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:03 am

If you are attacking someone you can easily apply a blood choke not knowing it. The victim will certainly know which one is applied in about 2 seconds.

All a blood choke is doing is cutting off the blood flow to your brain. There are two carotid arteries on either side of your neck. Which easily be blocked by someone choking you from behind.

nacho · Post by **nacho** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:18 am

The perfect crime, not one witness, video without tape and now is his word against ...well Bush is dead so we go only by what the constable is saying. Very sad.

2R · Post by 2R » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:27 am

Any choke hold is useless against a person trained in unarmed combat .You would lose your testicles and eyes getting that close to someone who knows how to fight .Not forgetting how vulnerable the ribs and throat by raising your defences up top put a choke hold on a fighting man .If you knew how easy it is to break a human leg or arm you would never allow a fighter to get that close to your body in a fight
Many policemen have ended up in hospital trying to put a choke hold on someone who can fight .
A trained martial artist can take on six to eight opponents at a time so a single policeman trying to tackle a fighter is just asking for a world of hurt trying to choke out a fighter.
Being that close to a fighter for ten seconds means you will need to be fed through a tube.

nacho · Post by **nacho** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:36 am

And if you have a gun you could shoot his foot, or the leg, not the back of the head.( this beacuse in case it got lost somewhere, he was in police custody, serve and protect ?) Clearly his intention was to kill this man.

Chuck Ellsworth · Post by **Chuck Ellsworth** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:38 am

Did Bush have a history of being a dangerous fighter?

sigmet77 · Post by **sigmet77** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:29 am

I have never been in the military, a police officer or a black belt in whatever and I can knock you out in 5-10 seconds with a choke hold. So could every kid I grew up with, it really isn't that difficult. This is my first look at this posting because I knew it would make my blood boil. You freaking people that attack this cop make me sick. You have no more information then anyone else, yet you side with the guy in the cell, not the guy who has taken a job that puts his life at risk to protect others. Are there bad cops out there? Sure. Is this guy one? Who knows, but he gets the benefit of the doubt with me because he does a job that keeps us all safe. So I say this with the utmost detest for all of those police bashing jerkoffs on this forum...shut the hell up. If you are so sure he is guilty then take your evidence to the authorities, or media, or whoever isn't part of a big conspiracy (hell post it right here) a show us all he is guilty. We all know you won't do that because you don't have it, but hey, thanks to our military of the past and present, you live in a country that allows you free speech, so have at er. Hipocracy is, as always, alive and well and you folks must be some of the biggest hippocrites I have seen in a long while.
I for one am glad that a police officer is alive and on the streets and not laying dead in the ground. So now, let's hear some more bitching, because that, I know, you have plenty of.

nacho · Post by **nacho** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:39 am

You only have the same information that the rest of us have. But you have a different view. Yet you get to call the rest of us " some of the biggest hippocrites I have seen in a long while" and " police bashing jerkoffs on this forum".
Your point of view. And is not thanks to the police that you can come here and express it. Better not encounter a trigger happy cop in the future or your opinions will be read by somebody else at your funereal.

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:50 am

shut the hell up

censorship is indeed a cornerstone of any police state.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:02 am

Sigmet77 - Common sense seems to be one more non-renewable resource.

Then there is no sense in continuing to debate with Sigmet77.

2R · Post by 2R » Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:04 am

Why was it only one cop alone in the first place ???
This will end up as a manpower issue .An undermanned overworked overstressed policeman working alone in an underfunded police system against a violent drunk is no safer than an overworked overstressed pilot flying into a stormy area in a poorly maintained aircraft with no radar ???
We all know there is need for improvement for the working conditions of these young front line police.
All the cuts that the RCMP had to suffer have had long term effect that no one is happy about .One guy alone trying to subdue a drunk is not the best system to have .

sigmet77 · Post by **sigmet77** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:47 am

Nacho, my question is why are folks so quick to attack the police officer instead of defend him? Haven't criminals done worse to our society than police?

sigmet77 · Post by **sigmet77** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:48 am

Hedley, it is not cencorship, just a personal request.

nacho · Post by **nacho** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:33 pm

sigmet77 wrote:Nacho, my question is why are folks so quick to attack the police officer instead of defend him? Haven't criminals done worse to our society than police?

I believe they have. Now do you think that having a beer at the arena and even getting into a pissing contest with a cop is enough to get a bullet in the back of the head? What is Pickton going to get then?
Bush was unarmed, and a cop that is supposed to be trained to handle cases like this, cannot come out with a smoking gun and have me believe he feared for his life. Put one on his leg, his foot if you have to. Back of the head is execution style. And killing someone like he did would be enough to see he is not fit for the job he is doing.
A position of authority is a big responsibility, add to that carrying a firearm and we have something that if let out of control will get you wondering why nobody said anything when there was still hope and time to something about it.
If for whatever reason you end up in a cell like him in the hands of a cop that has duty to serve and protect your life, I hope it’s not one that would be ready to put a bullet in the back of your head just because you are an idiot or you put yourself there. Like others have stated before, that you get hurt because you put yourself there.
So abusive police doesn’t exist? And no one can confront these abuses fearing for their lives, and when they do occur, they investigate themselves?
These are my opinions and I don’t consider myself a hypocrite for expressing them.
Cops like this one are not the ones that granted me with this right, nor are the soldiers that kill civilians and innocent people around the world. I hope you get to see the difference

BoostedNihilist · Post by **BoostedNihilist** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:42 pm

nacho · Post by **nacho** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:51 pm

GroundSpeed wrote:What would we all be saying if the mountie was strangled to death that night? I'm sure everyone would be very sympathetic and offering there condolences about the poor rookie cop that was murdered in a cell that night. Most likely no one will ever know what really happened that night.

I guess that would be the case, but getting back on the issue, he came out alive, he had the gun, he was the authority, he was there to serve and protecet among other things this guys life. If someone having a drink where he is not supposed to is going to end like this, and some of us don't see it wrong, then the problem is even bigger because we as a society allow it.
When they take away the rest of your rights, it will be too late.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:23 pm

Was there any personal history between these two individuals? Why did he single out Bush?

Wanted the same woman?

altiplano · Post by **altiplano** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:30 pm

Nark · Post by **Nark** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:29 pm

There is a a whole department set up within the RCMP to investigate complaints from the public.

Punishments are levied out for whatever infractions they have commited (RCMP member).

Some of you have lost sight of whats going on. You think that this constable executed that drunken retard and the RCMP are covering up for him. Thats not the case.

Pilots investigate pilots, doctors investigate doctors, why aren't cops allowed to investigate themselves?

The summery of the investigation is certainly plausable, but you cop haters won't take it for what it's worth.

IF you mess with somebody who has the legal authority to use a gun, someone if going to be shot before long. I wear a rifle everywhere I go over here. If it comes down to me and Mr Hajji, I'm going to walk away. Its just that simple. The same can be applied to a cell in BC.

BoostedNihilist · Post by **BoostedNihilist** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:08 am

nacho · Post by **nacho** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:05 am

Mr. Nark just made my point when he stated :

"IF you mess with somebody who has the legal authority to use a gun, someone if going to be shot before long. I wear a rifle everywhere I go over here. If it comes down to me and Mr Hajji, I'm going to walk away. Its just that simple. The same can be applied to a cell in BC."

Not everybody has the moral authority to use a gun although some of you slipped through the crack and we as the people have given you one.
And to me it's not good in Irak or in Canada.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:59 am

"IF you mess with somebody who has the legal authority to use a gun, someone if going to be shot before long. I wear a rifle everywhere I go over here. If it comes down to me and Mr Hajji, I'm going to walk away. Its just that simple. The same can be applied to a cell in BC."

So in your mind it is A.O.K. to shoot an unarmed person if he "messes" with you and if you ever come to Canada and become a cop you will execute any unarmed person who messes with you even in a cell in B.C.

Well maybe with that attitude you will meet your match wherever you are carrying that gun now.

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:13 am

The RCMP investigating themselves.....isn't that just like SMS?

albertdesalvo · Post by **albertdesalvo** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:50 am

Nark wrote:If it comes down to me and Mr Hajji, I'm going to walk away. Its just that simple.

3,888 of your compadres thought the same, and they went home in boxes. Do you feel lucky?