C-FMOM, RCMP spy plane?

Rudy · Post by **Rudy** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:34 pm

What's up with this guy in the C-210 buzzing around Thunder Bay the past few days reeking havoc with arrivals and departures? I've heard rumors of it being the RCMP conducting surveillance. The TC register says the federal government is the owner. When he ignored some ATC intructions the other day he said it was because he has to listen to another 3 frequencies at once. Hope I don't get tasered for posting this.

linecrew · Post by **linecrew** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:41 pm

Check out all of the antennae aft of the wheel wells...

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0538077/L/

Rudy · Post by **Rudy** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:42 pm

Thanks for the pic. The remarks say it is RCMP. Anyone know what they're up to?

C-FABH · Post by **C-FABH** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:50 pm

There was an aircraft like this (perhaps even 2) orbiting overhead my end of Toronto the day before the police and RCMP swooped in to arrest all those "terrorists" a few years ago. They too were orbiting in a very strange location within the terminal airspace, except I couldn't find them on the frequencies.

To quote a previous thread (if I recall correctly).... remember, Mom's always watching!

Inverted2 · Post by **Inverted2** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:19 pm

I've seen that same plane in the summer months flying low and slows around SW Ont looking for dope in cornfields as well!!!

Jungle Jim · Post by **Jungle Jim** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:52 pm

I think it's time to line your hat with tin foil just in case.

Jim

ch135146 · Post by **ch135146** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:54 pm

We are so superior to the Americans...we can do it with single reciprocating 60 year old technology fixed gear light planes.

And they need Global Hawk, Predator, Pegasus, U-2, J-STAR, E-8C, and EP-3 (just to name a few U.S. UAV's and aircraft, which probably includes a few 210's)

Dudley Do-Right goes after Snidely Whiplash in the 21st Century!

Pratt · Post by **Pratt** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:25 pm

Hear it on the radio in southern Ontario quite abit and it was sitting in YXU for quite awhile recently. Don't know where it is based.

freakonature · Post by **freakonature** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:50 pm

Thank's for the tip's. Do we know of any other's out there?

Northern Skies · Post by **Northern Skies** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:06 pm

flyin' for the fuzz... how do you get that job?

Then again, I remember the stupid ottawa police 206 ad: "must have one year of experience with 3000 hours"

freakonature · Post by **freakonature** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:26 pm

Don't want to fly for them. I want to know when their coming.

oldtimer · Post by **oldtimer** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:37 pm

They have a Cessna 210 in Regina also.

Youngback · Post by **Youngback** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:25 pm

They have a Caravan with a few cameras and IR equipment mounted underneath the tail. Last time I saw it was in Vancouver a few years ago. Carries a whole surveilance crew in the back to operate the gear. Coolest Caravan I've seen.

C-FABH · Post by **C-FABH** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:16 pm

Inverted2 wrote:I've seen that same plane in the summer months flying low and slows around SW Ont looking for dope in cornfields as well!!!

They should try flying in one of the Sundance hot air balloons. The locations are hardly secret if you know the area well enough!

cessnafloatflyer · Post by **cessnafloatflyer** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:47 pm

Why would anyone fly a 210 to go low and slow???

TheRedPages · Post by **TheRedPages** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:20 pm

My sources tell me it is a spy plane that is able to listen in on wireless (read corldess) telephones. This is a particularily powerful tool for the police because the law is at best vague on this type of informatin sharing. When Phones are tapped, Warrants are required, Since wireless phone signals leave the property on which they were created a warrant is not required in all situations. basically gives the police complete licence to listen to whatever is transmited over cordless phones at their discetion, Powerful tool, and scary at the same time. I have respect for the officers of the law however checks and balances are in place to protect the public and they should be managed and obeyed instead of avoided as in this loop hole. I am all for anti-terrorism but I think we are entering a little more into a police state every day without the public knowing. One only needs to look at Ontarios new street racing laws to see this, A warning flag should go up with anyone who knows the details in regards to complete lack of recourse and the absolute power of officers in this law.

I am all for the public knowing what is happening in their country, Good for AvCanada and all who posted for asking questions.

Regards

Rudy · Post by **Rudy** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:43 am

Clearly a case of following the letter of the law and not the spirit. If they can't listen to phones with wires they shouldn't be listening to phones without them.

x15 · Post by **x15** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:46 am

MOM is an RCMP plane. Flies into Buttonville quite often. They were responsible for the big drug raids outside of Kapuskasing a few years ago. Found some grow ops on the side of the road between Cochrane and Kapuskasing.

Think the machine is based in Ottawa but it goes everywhere.

Blakey · Post by **Blakey** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:09 am

linecrew wrote:Check out all of the antennae aft of the wheel wells...

That's the air-to-ground Taser. Keep a low profile bro!

bob sacamano · Post by **bob sacamano** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:00 am

A.K.A. snoopy.

cyhu · Post by **cyhu** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:40 am

Another 210R (C-GTCT) is based in CYHU, goes out from time to time, also heavily equipped with antennas and loaded aft of the pilot seat.

Register says RCMP has 4 210R's, plus 3 208's and even a half dozen 206's.

linecrew · Post by **linecrew** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:48 am

ch135146 wrote:We are so superior to the Americans...we can do it with single reciprocating 60 year old technology fixed gear light planes.

And they need Global Hawk, Predator, Pegasus, U-2, J-STAR, E-8C, and EP-3 (just to name a few U.S. UAV's and aircraft, which probably includes a few 210's)

Dudley Do-Right goes after Snidely Whiplash in the 21st Century!

My spin on this is that we don't live in the same level of fear and skepticism as our american counterparts do. Some refer to this as freedom...

Dust Devil · Post by **Dust Devil** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:52 am

oldtimer wrote:They have a Cessna 210 in Regina also.

I think it just has an I/R camera on it. I think they use it for looking for dope operations and some border stuff. I don't recall seeing any strange antenna's on it.

buck82 · Post by **buck82** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:59 am

Getting back to the first post, maybe the RCMP should employ two pilots to operate that aircraft if one can't manage the frequencies/work load. It'ld be pretty stupid for them to fly straight into someone else for lack of being on the appropriate freq.

Bobby868 · Post by **Bobby868** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:37 pm

What you are looking at on the bottom is part of a precise gps tracking system. They place a small tracking device on a person, vehicle etc. the antenas pick up the single and provide a precise location. Regular GPS tracking devices such as the ones found in modern cell phones are not accurate enough to ensure that police bust into the correct motel room.

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