xsbank wrote:Without monitoring, you will never know.
CAN WE PLEASE DROP THE QUOTE THINGY? It just fills up the pages with stuff we've already read! If you have no reading comprehension at all, then go ahead and do it for yourself, THEN ERASE IT!
Sheesh!
Then don't read the stuff in the quote boxes. Easy enough, eh?
Thanks go guns but my pos puter will not let me download anything this week so i cannot quote the parts that would be applicable .
If you have any experience of putting engines on condition it may just be a pedantric point .But it lets Cessna off the hook and P&W .
So who is left with the deep pockets ???
./Cat: If you're simply going to respond to posts with "That is pure B.S.", then save us the trouble of reading through what is a pointless response on your part.
obviously if you're going down in a jet due to an engine failure it's not going to make much difference whether you're over land or water.
The 777 at Heathrow a few days ago is a good example.
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I'm with xsbank...knock it off with the bloody quotes. We just read the post we are referring to, and we all know it.
Somebody mentioned VLJs. Yes, many will be single engine. I can't see any operated as a commercial air service. Certainly not with passengers. Maybe high priority envelope dispatch service, Most will be owner/company aircraft, and they can fly, and file in whatever they want. Not the same ball game. At all.
Here is a prime example of a fatal accident, that after all is said and one would have been totally prevented with....guess what???.....a second engine!
Forget the TAWS. Forget the out of date GPS (which would have worked just fine, thank you)! Forget about all the pontificating, chest pounding, and bullshit! This accident should never have happened. The simple fact that there IS SEIFR allowed by commercial operators in this country killed these people. It's as simple as that. And it really pisses me off.
Any monkey can fly a twin on one engine. I know this for a fact. I've flown home on one engine more often than any five of you! It can be done.
Only a very lucky monkey can fly a single engine airplane (IFR) to anything other than a bloody grave sight after that one engine stops.
On a thread with many posts like this one, if someone is posting a response to a specific post by another, I like knowing which point they are responding to, without re-reading two pages of posts to figure it out.
Not really a problem Hawk. Just this thread seems to be 40% posts and 60% quotes. If you're going on about a post half a page ago, fine....but these guys are "quoting" the post above them. I never use the quote feature. Some never post without them....and they only quote the part they want to make a point about....it's just getting silly.
Manager of airline whose plane crashed in 2006 sues Transport Canada
5 hours ago
VANCOUVER - The operations manager of a company that lost a pilot and two passengers when one of its aircraft crashed is suing Transport Canada and three public servants, claiming defamation of character and negligence.
Nikolas Todd Chapman filed a writ of summons Monday in B.C. Supreme Court naming Transport Canada and three employees in the suit that claims damages for loss of earnings and reputation.
In the writ, Chapman outlines the events that led to his suit, beginning with the crash Jan. 21, 2006, of a SonicBlue Airways Cessna Caravan 208B owned and operated by International Express Aircharter Ltd.
Chapman had been authorized by Transport Canada in April 2005 to serve as the company's operations manager.
But after the crash, he says in his writ, Transport Canada decided to revoke his status as operations manager because he had "failed to fulfil his responsibility as operations manager to control the operations and operational standards of all aircraft operated by IAE."
At the time of the meeting, he said in the writ, the cause of the accident had not been established.
"It has subsequently been determined that the cause of the accident was the failure of an engine component which was not the fault of either (Chapman) or IAE," he states in the writ.
In a Transportation Safety Board report released last week, the agency found a piece of equipment already mandatory in other countries possibly could have prevented the crash on Vancouver Island that killed the pilot and two passengers.
Pilot Edward Huggett died in the crash while trying to find a safe spot to land after the engine failed on a flight to Vancouver from Tofino, on Vancouver Island.
Huggett wanted to make an emergency landing at nearby Port Alberni but with visibility poor he ended up in a mountainous area and crashed on a snowy hillside while trying to land on a logging road.
Huggett was killed, along with passengers Terry Douglas, 58, and Braeden Hale, 3. Five others survived.
Chapman said a letter from Transport Canada dated Jan. 22, 2006, revoking his employment, contained statements that were defamatory "and made with malice and with the full knowledge that they would cause harm to (Chapman)."
In February 2006, Chapman appealed the decision to the Transportation Appeal Tribunal of Canada.
It found that Transport Canada did not establish that Chapman "failed to meet his responsibilities for the operation standards of the aircraft on the basis of the maintenance findings of Jan. 11, 2006, because it cannot be established that Mr. Chapman was responsible for those findings."
Despite that ruling, Chapman said the defendants did not reconsider their decision, which he said has him suffering losses and damages.
"The defendants' decision to revoke (his job) caused the plaintiff an immediate loss of income and continuing and ongoing loss of earning capacity in his chosen profession," the write states.
Also named as defendants are Trevor Heryet, Transport Canada's regional manager of commercial and business aviation; David Nowzek, regional director of civil aviation; and Bruce Hutchings, regional superintendent of commercial and business aviation.
None the allegations in the statement of claim have been proven and those Chapman is suing have not yet filed a statement of defence.
Widow - I started a new topic on this because I think it raises a whole new set of issues and I didn't want it lost - also the Vancouver Sun carried another lawsuit re the helicopter issue - I guess TC will be hiring more in-house lawyers to deal with the increase in work
