Borek DC-3T accident in Antarctica

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WOW KAG, u really tell it how it is. I think thats the first time you've posted some bad words. I hope it feels good. I know how borek works and do know they treat there employees like sheet, except for now due to the current situation. I think this latest incident is very unfortunate and hate to here any of this crap from any company...good or bad.

Anyways, whatever who gives a fack, just keep on trucking.
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OOOps, i forgot, maybe we need co-joe to make another informed comment again.....cuz he knows how it is...

standing by

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Actually I have a bit of a potty mouth... :lol:
I was hung over when I read that post and it seriously rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe I over reacted... :mrgreen:
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Sounds like it moved. Under its own power.........
Its already on its way home.
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If that's true and it's been fixed and flying, well done to the engineers. It's not the easiest place to work.
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Well its either flying or they put the damn thing on their backs and carried it to Rothera.
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They dug that Borek plane out and it left its unscheduled landing site yesterday, flew out with new engines and gear. Breaking the field camp today.
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Just taking the last load of stuff out of the camp.
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I was one of the engineers that spent just over a month on the ice getting MKB out of its snow grave. The job was not that bad, but the conditions were terrible. I have never dug so much snow in my life. My hat goes off to my fellow engineers that were also on the project and also to the pilots that resupplied us (parts, tools. softdrinks, and smokes) and also helped us dig the big old bird out of the snow. Long live MKB! I am leaving Antarctica tomorrow, to spend a few days in New Zealand before I head back to YYC. See you there MKB!

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Thanks for saving one of the nicest airplanes I've ever seen.
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@#$! you guys are hardcore!! Nice work! :prayer:
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Like the company motto says:

"Anytime, Anywhere - Worldwide!"

We are very lucky to have pilots and engineers and management that are this committed!!

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I can't speak for the other guys (and girls) on here, but john, I think it's generally well known you hate Borek, you hate management, and you really have nothing worthwhile to say, and I'm getting f.cking tired of it. I understand it's your opinion, to which you are entitled, but there's already a thread dedicated to Borek hating, would you please go join your comrades over there?

A huge thank you to the engineers who spent all that time working in conditions that make Rankin Inlet look like Hawaii. Congratulations, the first round is on me!
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The aircraft left the continent yesterday.

In the vicinity of MKB Admiral Byrd´s Ford Trimotor lies half buried in the snow as it has been for 60 years. Skier 91, an HC130, lay in a crevass for 2 years a decade ago.

Five miles from where we departed daily to bring in smokes and parts (and snow shovels!) there is a Constellation which has been filling with snow for 30 years.

At our tourist base, there is a DC-6 and a single otter, both there for eternity.

Most of aircraft the size of the Basler that got damaged on the Ice are still on the Ice, or in it.

You have to picture the Barrens 300 west of Rankin on a typical march day. Add three tents. No internet, no tables, no convenient Keg, Wendy´s or even a Timmmy´s. Need smokes? They´re a 3 hour otter ride away, but yer not going away. Need parts, tools, etc? Better be able to describe them on a scratchy HF radio. To a pilot.

The project engineer looked at what needed to be done, and said essentially, give it a month, and it'll be outta there. 29 days later, it was.

When I look at the things the company does, and where it goes, I have come to realize that the engineers we have are simply amazing. What I know about bashing tin and adjusting engines can be written on the inside of a matchbook with a grease pencil, but I do know that spending 6 hours a day with a chainsaw, skiddoo and sled, and 10 snow shovellers just to get at your work, only to have all that snow blown in overnight... not easy.

I was just a special guest star, flying in with parts and smokes, and returning for a hot shower, and a nice sleep on a real bed in a heated building, and I was tired. All that snow shovelling isn´t good for old guys like me, but it was worth it all to see that bird get resurrected.
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If you get the Seriel number plates off the Otter ,those guys in Calgary could build you a new plane around the plates :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Had another look at the flighttracker of Flightaware.com for C-FMKB but that still shows the last flight being southbound in Oct.2007.
So where is C-FMKB now, hanging round for carnival in Rio..?
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RuudLeeuw wrote:Had another look at the flighttracker of Flightaware.com for C-FMKB but that still shows the last flight being southbound in Oct.2007.
So where is C-FMKB now, hanging round for carnival in Rio..?
Keep in mind, that will display IFR legs only...
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MKB is sitting in Punta Arenas right now, should be continuing home to Calgary within the next couple days.
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here's a link to Punta Arenas Webcam and has MKB sitting there parked on a taxiway.

http://www.webcamgalore.com/EN/webcam/C ... /3473.html
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C-FMKB (19560) has been repaired and flown out of the crash site.
Photo here http://antarctica-coldman.blogspot.com/
Looks like it has been repaired with a new rear fuselage. Does
anybody recognise the colour scheme on the donated rear fuselage?
It still has the N-number; N2...
Could be any crashed or parted out C-47... My hope it was stored and shipped
from Kenn Borek's maintenance depot (wherever that is) and someone can
identify it..??
Have looked at various N-number candidates, the yellow reminded me some
Mosquito Control birds but they lacked the heavy black lines. Former Air
North maybe..?
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RuudLeeuw wrote:Looks like it has been repaired with a new rear fuselage. Does
anybody recognise the colour scheme on the donated rear fuselage?
It still has the N-number; N2...
Could be any crashed or parted out C-47... My hope it was stored and shipped
from Kenn Borek's maintenance depot (wherever that is) and someone can
identify it..??
It is the tail of the fuselage of the "Tri Turbo Three" N23SA, one of the most unusual DC-3 trubine retrofits with no less than three PT-6s on it. The flight deeck was accidently torched in 1986 and the whole fuselage was replaced. Not sure if this was the first or second fuselage used as N23SA but I'm pretty sure that c/n 4093 is (was?) the one stored at Basler's facility in Oshkosh. One of the fuselages is c/n 4093 but if you replace it does that number then change?

Pics of the fire damage here:
http://www.air-and-space.com/conroy.htm
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I'll go with that identity, thanks for solving that!
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RuudLeeuw wrote:I'll go with that identity, thanks for solving that!
Got my 0's and 9's mixed up...cn. is 4903.
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Any update on where it is now? I'd like to catch it returning to YYC if possible...

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