02/062 (A0038/08) - AIRSPACE CARF NR. 90 ON EVELYN STATIONARY RESERVATION WITHIN AN AREA BNDD BY 3145N 17012W 2824N 16642W 2352N 16317W 1909N 16129W 1241N 16129W 1239N 16532W 1842N 17057W 2031N 17230W 2703N 17206W SFC-UNL. 21 FEB 02:30 2008 UNTIL 21 FEB 05:00 2008. CREATED: 18 FEB 12:51 2008
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Cool the sky is falling...A 1400 mile exclusion zone from ground to ceiling unlimited. Anybody know if this event is going to be broadcast live? I'll be amazed if they knock it out of the sky with a missile! Should be quite the sight.
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For those of us who can't read a NOTAM, lol (I can't be the ONLY one!):
... 'cause this is interesting even to us!
http://cosmos4u.blogspot.com/2008/02/sa ... eb-21.htmlA Notice to Airmen has been issued closing a zone near Maui for air traffic on the morning of Feb. 21 from 2:30 to 5:00 UTC - and the to-be-hit satellite USA 193 is crossing that very zone around 3:30 UTC. Furthermore it has been noted that this is during totality of the total lunar eclipse that night which may aid the optical tracking of faint fragments.
... 'cause this is interesting even to us!
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US declares 1400-mile Pacific sat-shoot exclusion zone - Posted At: Today 05:08 PM
Airspace bar from surface to 'unlimited' altitude
By Lewis Page → More by this author
Published Tuesday 19th February 2008 09:59 GMT
The US military has issued a warning notice barring flights above a large area of the northern Pacific for two and a half hours early on Thursday morning. The stricken spy satellite marked for destruction by US warships will pass over the taped-off area just at this time, indicating that the first shot will take place then.
The NOTAM (NOTice To AirMen) warning reads:
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02/062 (A0038/08) - AIRSPACE CARF NR. 90 ON EVELYN STATIONARY RESERVATION WITHIN AN AREA BNDD BY 3145N 17012W 2824N 16642W 2352N 16317W 1909N 16129W 1241N 16129W 1239N 16532W 1842N 17057W 2031N 17230W 2703N 17206W SFC-UNL. 21 FEB 02:30 2008 UNTIL 21 FEB 05:00 2008. CREATED: 18 FEB 12:51 2008
A "CARF" (Central Altitude Reservation Function) designation indicates a NOTAM intended to keep commercial and private flights clear of military operations, and SFC-UNL means the height band of this warning zone reaches from the surface to "unlimited" altitude - in other words all the way into space. The UTC time referred to is the same as UK time, so the zone exists from 0230 to 0500 on Thursday morning for British readers.
The latitudes and longitudes can be plotted with the crippled spy sat's ground track overlaid, which has been done by satellite watcher Ted Molczan in handy pdf form here. Those running Google Earth can get a better look using this kmz file, compiled by Molczan's fellow sky-watcher Alan Clegg from the pdf.
As will be evident, the barred area is a cool 1,400 miles long and nearly 700 miles wide at the surface, giving the US Navy plenty of elbow room to fire their interceptor missiles up into the descending spacecraft's path.
Reports have it that three US Aegis air-defence warships, the cruiser Lake Erie and the destroyers Decatur and Russell, will be waiting for the satellite west of Hawaii. Each ship carries a specially modified Standard SM-3 interceptor, originally intended for defence against lower-flying ballistic missile warheads. The three interceptors are on separate ships in case of a technical issue with the Aegis radar and fire-control system.
As it passes over the firing area, the satellite will be approximately 3,000 miles and ten minutes out from the western coast of Canada, the next land it will pass over. The satellite has much more mass than the soaring "exo-atmospheric kill vehicle" it will smack into, so this gives some idea of the onward track the wreckage might follow in the event of a hit.
The Pentagon believes most of the resulting debris from a successful shot will burn up soon afterwards, and almost all should be gone within "two orbits". Boosters and other gubbins from the interceptors will presumably fall within the ocean NOTAM area.
The firing area seems to have been chosen so as to minimise the chances of debris falling anywhere other than in the ocean or North America, which could lend credence to the idea that the intercept is primarily aimed at safeguarding the satellite's technology.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/19/..._declared/
Airspace bar from surface to 'unlimited' altitude
By Lewis Page → More by this author
Published Tuesday 19th February 2008 09:59 GMT
The US military has issued a warning notice barring flights above a large area of the northern Pacific for two and a half hours early on Thursday morning. The stricken spy satellite marked for destruction by US warships will pass over the taped-off area just at this time, indicating that the first shot will take place then.
The NOTAM (NOTice To AirMen) warning reads:
Quote:
02/062 (A0038/08) - AIRSPACE CARF NR. 90 ON EVELYN STATIONARY RESERVATION WITHIN AN AREA BNDD BY 3145N 17012W 2824N 16642W 2352N 16317W 1909N 16129W 1241N 16129W 1239N 16532W 1842N 17057W 2031N 17230W 2703N 17206W SFC-UNL. 21 FEB 02:30 2008 UNTIL 21 FEB 05:00 2008. CREATED: 18 FEB 12:51 2008
A "CARF" (Central Altitude Reservation Function) designation indicates a NOTAM intended to keep commercial and private flights clear of military operations, and SFC-UNL means the height band of this warning zone reaches from the surface to "unlimited" altitude - in other words all the way into space. The UTC time referred to is the same as UK time, so the zone exists from 0230 to 0500 on Thursday morning for British readers.
The latitudes and longitudes can be plotted with the crippled spy sat's ground track overlaid, which has been done by satellite watcher Ted Molczan in handy pdf form here. Those running Google Earth can get a better look using this kmz file, compiled by Molczan's fellow sky-watcher Alan Clegg from the pdf.
As will be evident, the barred area is a cool 1,400 miles long and nearly 700 miles wide at the surface, giving the US Navy plenty of elbow room to fire their interceptor missiles up into the descending spacecraft's path.
Reports have it that three US Aegis air-defence warships, the cruiser Lake Erie and the destroyers Decatur and Russell, will be waiting for the satellite west of Hawaii. Each ship carries a specially modified Standard SM-3 interceptor, originally intended for defence against lower-flying ballistic missile warheads. The three interceptors are on separate ships in case of a technical issue with the Aegis radar and fire-control system.
As it passes over the firing area, the satellite will be approximately 3,000 miles and ten minutes out from the western coast of Canada, the next land it will pass over. The satellite has much more mass than the soaring "exo-atmospheric kill vehicle" it will smack into, so this gives some idea of the onward track the wreckage might follow in the event of a hit.
The Pentagon believes most of the resulting debris from a successful shot will burn up soon afterwards, and almost all should be gone within "two orbits". Boosters and other gubbins from the interceptors will presumably fall within the ocean NOTAM area.
The firing area seems to have been chosen so as to minimise the chances of debris falling anywhere other than in the ocean or North America, which could lend credence to the idea that the intercept is primarily aimed at safeguarding the satellite's technology.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/19/..._declared/
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Related??
CADORS Number: 2008C0569 Reporting Region: Prairie & Northern
Occurrence InformationOccurrence Type: Incident Occurrence Date: 2008/02/17
Occurrence Time: 1220 Z Day Or Night: night-time
Fatalities: 0 Injuries:
Canadian Aerodrome ID: CYRB Aerodrome Name: Resolute Bay
Occurrence Location: E of Resolute Bay (CYRB) Province: Nunavut
Country: CANADA World Area: North America
Reported By: NAV CANADA AOR Number: 90478-V1
TSB Class Of Investigation: TSB Occurrence No.:
Event InformationWeather balloon, meteor, rocket, CIRVIS/UFO
Aircraft Information
Detail InformationUser Name: Ridley, Rod
Date: 2008/02/18
Further Action Required: No
O.P.I.: System Safety
Narrative: The CARS O/C at Resolute Bay reported observing a trail of smoke and a streak of bright light on the east horizon at 1220z. A pilot from Mary’s River, NU also reported seeing a bright yellow-orange light with contrails at 1205z and thought it was either a meteorite or possibly an aircraft. YEG ACC and MCC were advised and no known aircraft were operating in the area. RCC Trenton advised by YEG ACC Shift Manager. The O/C reported that there was a glow on the east horizon 40+ minutes after the initial sighting.
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The U.S. will shoot down a damaged spy satellite expected to hit Earth in early March, officials said at a news conference Thursday.
The satellite, launched in December 2006 and weighing more than 2,000 kilograms, lost power almost immediately and never reached its final orbit.
President George W. Bush, acting on advice of security officials, has decided to try to shoot down the satellite before it enters Earth's atmosphere.
Officials said a missile would be fired from a U.S. navy cruiser off Hawaii next week at the earliest.
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The officials said downing the satellite would help ensure it landed in an unpopulated area and help destroy the satellite's thruster tanks. The tanks contain a toxic rocket fuel called hydrazine, which can harm anyone who comes in contact with it, causing a burning sensation similar to chlorine.
Deputy national security adviser James Jeffrey said that if the satellite impacted on land, the hydrazine could spread to an area as large as two football fields.
"The likelihood of it falling in a populated area is small. But there was enough of a risk that the president asked us to review our options," said Jeffrey.
In addition to safety concerns, U.S. officials told the Associated Press earlier that they do not want the satellite to fall into the wrong hands, as it carries a sophisticated and secret imaging sensor.
China drew criticism
But Joint Chiefs of Staff vice-chairman Gen. James Cartwright denied that, saying classified technology is not an issue because the heating that would occur on re-entry would destroy any technology and "would not justify using a missile to shoot it down."
NASA administrator Michael Griffin said the risks to the International Space Station and space shuttle Atlantis were negligible.
It will be the first time the U.S. has ever attempted to shoot a spacecraft down with a surface-to-air missile, Cartwright said.
Last year, China drew criticism from a host of countries, including the U.S., after it used a missile to shoot down an old weather satellite about 865 kilometres above the Earth. The move was widely viewed as one that could lead to the increasing militarization of space.
Cartwright said this case is different because the U.S. is notifying countries and international organizations before attempting to knock out the satellite. He also said the plan to shoot it down as it enters the atmosphere will reduce the potential for debris to remain in orbit.
The satellite, launched in December 2006 and weighing more than 2,000 kilograms, lost power almost immediately and never reached its final orbit.
President George W. Bush, acting on advice of security officials, has decided to try to shoot down the satellite before it enters Earth's atmosphere.
Officials said a missile would be fired from a U.S. navy cruiser off Hawaii next week at the earliest.
Continue Article
The officials said downing the satellite would help ensure it landed in an unpopulated area and help destroy the satellite's thruster tanks. The tanks contain a toxic rocket fuel called hydrazine, which can harm anyone who comes in contact with it, causing a burning sensation similar to chlorine.
Deputy national security adviser James Jeffrey said that if the satellite impacted on land, the hydrazine could spread to an area as large as two football fields.
"The likelihood of it falling in a populated area is small. But there was enough of a risk that the president asked us to review our options," said Jeffrey.
In addition to safety concerns, U.S. officials told the Associated Press earlier that they do not want the satellite to fall into the wrong hands, as it carries a sophisticated and secret imaging sensor.
China drew criticism
But Joint Chiefs of Staff vice-chairman Gen. James Cartwright denied that, saying classified technology is not an issue because the heating that would occur on re-entry would destroy any technology and "would not justify using a missile to shoot it down."
NASA administrator Michael Griffin said the risks to the International Space Station and space shuttle Atlantis were negligible.
It will be the first time the U.S. has ever attempted to shoot a spacecraft down with a surface-to-air missile, Cartwright said.
Last year, China drew criticism from a host of countries, including the U.S., after it used a missile to shoot down an old weather satellite about 865 kilometres above the Earth. The move was widely viewed as one that could lead to the increasing militarization of space.
Cartwright said this case is different because the U.S. is notifying countries and international organizations before attempting to knock out the satellite. He also said the plan to shoot it down as it enters the atmosphere will reduce the potential for debris to remain in orbit.
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A couple of guys on their way to Hall Beach saw it. One of them saw the missile and the impact...pretty sweeeeet
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I'm a little confused here. Isn't the missle launch scheduled for 21 Feb around Hawaii?A couple of guys on their way to Hall Beach saw it. One of them saw the missile and the impact...pretty sweeeeet
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My understanding from news reports is that the event will occur tonight and is expected to take place around 22:30 eastern, this time corresponds with a full lunar eclipse that is happening, they figure this will assist in seeing falling debris. The target area is some 3000 miles off the west coast of Canada...
Source http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/19 ... _declared/Reports have it that three US Aegis air-defence warships, the cruiser Lake Erie and the destroyers Decatur and Russell, will be waiting for the satellite west of Hawaii. Each ship carries a specially modified Standard SM-3 interceptor, originally intended for defence against lower-flying ballistic missile warheads. The three interceptors are on separate ships in case of a technical issue with the Aegis radar and fire-control system.
As it passes over the firing area, the satellite will be approximately 3,000 miles and ten minutes out from the western coast of Canada, the next land it will pass over. The satellite has much more mass than the soaring "exo-atmospheric kill vehicle" it will smack into, so this gives some idea of the onward track the wreckage might follow in the event of a hit.
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something raises alarm bells about that NOTAM to me.......... can they actually control "to unlimited" altitudes?
And aside from that, it's a big spot over international waters in the pacific that they are closing, right? Past FL600 it's uncontrolled, and what about under FL180 too, can they close that? Are they overstepping their bounds here?
Tomorrow's headlines: "debris rocks prince rupert"....... or maye it will land in cuba
And aside from that, it's a big spot over international waters in the pacific that they are closing, right? Past FL600 it's uncontrolled, and what about under FL180 too, can they close that? Are they overstepping their bounds here?
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something raises alarm bells about that NOTAM to me.......... can they actually control "to unlimited" altitudes?
And aside from that, it's a big spot over international waters in the pacific that they are closing, right? Past FL600 it's uncontrolled, and what about under FL180 too, can they close that? Are they overstepping their bounds here?
I'm not going to argue!!!!!!!!!!
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And aside from that, it's a big spot over international waters in the pacific that they are closing, right? Past FL600 it's uncontrolled, and what about under FL180 too, can they close that? Are they overstepping their bounds here?
I'm not going to argue!!!!!!!!!!
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yeah no argument here either, They might not legally control that airspace but Tell me that a 2000 lb hunk a metal will be falling out of the sky and i'll stay clear.
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CNN is now reporting that the missile hit the satellite.
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Yeah, but I wouln't be surprised if some country sent a MiG-25 or something to orbit at 65 grand in a western corner of that zone, just to put them in their place. That would make a nice simple statement.C-GGGQ wrote:yeah no argument here either, They might not legally control that airspace but Tell me that a 2000 ** hunk a metal will be falling out of the sky and i'll stay clear.
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Saw the broken remains of the satellite over Northern Alberta tonight at about 9pm. Right about when they said it would be going over. 1 big ball of flame followed by around 10 smaller pieces.
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http://viewfromthehomelessstreets.blogspot.com/Not an Eclipse - The Truth is Out There.
On Wednesday February 20, 2008 there was neither a lunar eclipse not a launch against a falling “spy satellite” as was widely reported. These stories were merely the attempt by the Powers That Be to keep the public in ignorance about the events that actually occurred on that evening.
Fortunately for the public and unfortunately for those attempting to perpetrate this deception, the stories and explanations they sought to use were so thin as to be transparent and readily seen through.
It was not a lunar eclipse that obscured the moon but an alien interstellar vessel whose path, size and close proximity to earth gave the general outward appearance of a lunar eclipse. The destruction of the starship and its subsequent break-up, clearing the line of sight to the moon, helped complete the illusion of a lunar eclipse.
It was against this inbound starship that the US Navy launched its attack, not some mythical “spy satellite”. Under the guise of shooting down a “spy satellite” with poisonous fuel onboard, the military destroyed our interstellar visitor.
No doubt the starship homed in on Earth because, on the basis of radio frequencies, Earth is a brilliantly lit up object as a result of all our media broadcasting signals into space.
Given the vast distances and travel times involved in voyaging between the stars the exploration crew and scientists would travel in some form of cold sleep or suspended animation. The fact the crew was not awakened prior to the ship heading for orbital insertion (why wake the crew up before it was definitely established the planet was of interest) supports the conclusion that our visitors were explorers and not hostile.
Why would a starship be destroyed?
Concrete proof of intelligent alien life together with whatever knowledge and ideas they may have chosen to share with the world would have had a profound effect on mankind. The effects would have had a high potential of causing massive social upheaval and change. Inherent in this change was the likely displacement of our current ruling class.
Unwilling to run the risk of losing their power and control of the people the ruling class destroyed the starship and the threat to their power. The need to act quickly resulted in the very thin stories of a lunar eclipse and “spy satellite” destruction to cover up their atrocity, greed and lust for power.
We will never know the knowledge, the glories that mankind would have gained from our visitors. What bright future for mankind was sacrificed just so the ruling class can continue to enjoy the wealth and privileges that comes from their rule?
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I think I work with his twin brother.Widow wrote:I think someone forgot to take their lithium.![]()
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