How many is too many position reports?
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How many is too many position reports?
Flying around Northern Alberta lately and I couldn't help but notice there are alot of aircraft with an "AF" in there reg that give a position report every 5 to 10 minutes. Is that a company thing? Seems excessive to me.
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Yeah, we have the same problem during the summer here in Quebec. The enroute frequency gets clogged by pilot doing position reports every 3-4 mins. I think one position report every 15 mins is fine, unless you're in a very heavy traffic area or you see/hear another plane near your area.
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Position reports, while surely a good thing are generally WAY too long winded.
The proper report should begin with the airport in question. eg. "Armpit Lake traffic, this is ABC, inbound from the south, landing Armpit in Five." That's it. No need for a long drawn out advisory. Short, sweet, to the point. Aimed AT Armpit Lake traffic. When and where. Nothing more is needed. WHY do we hear everybody's life history on most advisories?
The proper report should begin with the airport in question. eg. "Armpit Lake traffic, this is ABC, inbound from the south, landing Armpit in Five." That's it. No need for a long drawn out advisory. Short, sweet, to the point. Aimed AT Armpit Lake traffic. When and where. Nothing more is needed. WHY do we hear everybody's life history on most advisories?
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Amateurs.WHY do we hear everybody's life history on most advisories?
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My least favorite radio call ever "Conflicting traffic please advise"Cat Driver wrote:Amateurs.WHY do we hear everybody's life history on most advisories?
I conflicting to the traffic but I'm not going to say anything because they didn't ask me to advise
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Lurch wrote:My least favorite radio call ever "Conflicting traffic please advise"Cat Driver wrote:Amateurs.WHY do we hear everybody's life history on most advisories?
I conflicting to the traffic but I'm not going to say anything because they didn't ask me to advise
Lurch
*shudders* I have to agree with you. I think in any given daylight hour during the summer in southern Alberta, at least 90% of the radio calls end with that. I'm still trying to find where in the CARs, FTM, radio ops manual or AIM there is a guideline saying you need to add the redundancy...
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I will have you know my students DO NOT SAY THAT 
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Re: How many is too many position reports?
For you Northern Ontarioans,
My Fav comes from perimeter, Winnipeg Traffic this is Perimeter 123 level Flight level 230 on Alpha Romeo 8, 238 miles to the north, estimate winnipeg in 2 hours, conflicting perimeter 123 on 126.7 122.8
How about perimeters 123 is fl230 over grand rapids, winnipeg next
My Fav comes from perimeter, Winnipeg Traffic this is Perimeter 123 level Flight level 230 on Alpha Romeo 8, 238 miles to the north, estimate winnipeg in 2 hours, conflicting perimeter 123 on 126.7 122.8
How about perimeters 123 is fl230 over grand rapids, winnipeg next
Re: How many is too many position reports?
If you're at FL230 headed to YWG, why ANY VFR advisory?
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Re: How many is too many position reports?
Any position report where you lull me into not listening to the next 5 reports is excessive. I like Doc's report just fine, maybe throw an altitude in there so I can run and hide from you.


