1. Can I do 100% self-study? Does TC approve that, or do they have a limit of how much self study you can do?
2. Do you need the written done before the ride? As far as I know, the Flight Test Guide says that "it is recommended", but everyone is telling me that I need to do the written first before the ride. Is this true?
Thanks guys
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CPL Questions
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360montana
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Re: CPL Questions
1: You can do 100% self study, but you do need a instructor to sign you off on min 80hrs
2: Write then fly
2: Write then fly
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For the first one - yes you can, I did a mix of both and to be honest, you're going to be going out in the real world and work. Do you trust that self studying everything will give you the essential knowledge base that others will actually learn the theory of in class? Some things can't only be "memorized" for the exam but are needed to be learnt.
For the second one; not it's not mandatory to do the written before the flight test, but why would you want to put your self in the scenario of not knowing CPL Related matters for your flight test? The reason it's "preferred" is because when you have the written done, your knowledge base will be at a much higher level in comparison to your private level. You will have learned a lot of new things (in depth) and why not utilize some of that skill on your flight test?
Also, the CPL flight test is very much alike the PPL flight test given a bit more instrument work, 180 degree precision approach, spins, and stronger ALT/SPD/HDG parameters to follow; but honestly, if you lost more than 100 feet on your PPL flight test I would my self be concerned. So in other words, it's psychologically easier to do the written before the flight test
Hope that helps - If you're in the lower mainland i'd be more than glad to take you up flying and / or help you with essential study related concepts that's important if you do consider to do 100% self study.
Good Luck Dude !
For the second one; not it's not mandatory to do the written before the flight test, but why would you want to put your self in the scenario of not knowing CPL Related matters for your flight test? The reason it's "preferred" is because when you have the written done, your knowledge base will be at a much higher level in comparison to your private level. You will have learned a lot of new things (in depth) and why not utilize some of that skill on your flight test?
Also, the CPL flight test is very much alike the PPL flight test given a bit more instrument work, 180 degree precision approach, spins, and stronger ALT/SPD/HDG parameters to follow; but honestly, if you lost more than 100 feet on your PPL flight test I would my self be concerned. So in other words, it's psychologically easier to do the written before the flight test
Hope that helps - If you're in the lower mainland i'd be more than glad to take you up flying and / or help you with essential study related concepts that's important if you do consider to do 100% self study.
Good Luck Dude !
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Yeah... and they can ask you questions on your flight test from your written test... (kind of) like what documents do you need... validity of the C of R etc..
The written is valid for 2 years if I'm not mistaken... the flight test is valid only for 1 year. I don't know what the weather is like where you're at... but where I am... you'd be lucky to get one flight in next week... perfect time to study them books
The written is valid for 2 years if I'm not mistaken... the flight test is valid only for 1 year. I don't know what the weather is like where you're at... but where I am... you'd be lucky to get one flight in next week... perfect time to study them books
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quicksilver
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Re: CPL Questions
My experience with students is that it is best to do the written first. You would be amazed how many people do the flight test and then take over a year to do the written, which means they have to do the flight test again! Not only is that a waste of money, it's stressful.
If you're in a bind then just self study, your commercial license with 200 hours means you have a license to learn. When you're employed in the real world is where you will learn from real pilots with real experience.
QS
If you're in a bind then just self study, your commercial license with 200 hours means you have a license to learn. When you're employed in the real world is where you will learn from real pilots with real experience.
QS
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That being said, it shouldn't be used as an excuse to not learn the basic theory behind how a lot of the things work. But if you're really good with self studying, and trust that you understand a lot of the technical things and don't need somebody to teach it for you, then by all means, have at itquicksilver wrote:My experience with students is that it is best to do the written first. You would be amazed how many people do the flight test and then take over a year to do the written, which means they have to do the flight test again! Not only is that a waste of money, it's stressful.
If you're in a bind then just self study, your commercial license with 200 hours means you have a license to learn. When you're employed in the real world is where you will learn from real pilots with real experience.
QS
Let us know how u do !
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*clears throat* Some of them instructors work for food 
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Chuck Ellsworth
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Re: CPL Questions
In what flight realm are you referring to regarding losing 100 feet,in a steep turn or straight and level?if you lost more than 100 feet on your PPL flight test I would my self be concerned.
And back to written exams, why can't TC develop an exam that asks straight questions instead of all the tricky wording they use?
The most difficult thing about flying is knowing when to say no.
After over a half a century of flying I can not remember even one trip that I refused to do that resulted in someone getting killed because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying I can not remember even one trip that I refused to do that resulted in someone getting killed because of my decision not to fly.
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Oh GOD . if someone could answer that one they would be rich!. . wrote: And back to written exams, why can't TC develop an exam that asks straight questions instead of all the tricky wording they use?
Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac. George Orwell
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E-Flyer wrote:For the first one - yes you can, I did a mix of both and to be honest, you're going to be going out in the real world and work. Do you trust that self studying everything will give you the essential knowledge base that others will actually learn the theory of in class? Some things can't only be "memorized" for the exam but are needed to be learnt.
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Yes you need to learn the CPL theory from an instructor with 240hrs, this way you will have the required knowlede to be a sucessful pilot.
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No you will have a level of knowledge that in most cases better allows you to succeed as a pilot as you get on to the working field. No body creates success for you in any field (if that's what you were trying to get at).
., I meant in the navigation segment of the flight and the duration of your flight where heading/alt/speed are closely monitored. This includes straight and level, navigation exercise, instrument work, steep turns, etc. Obvs that 100 feet rule doesn't apply to all exercises.
As you better know altitude parameters becomes more complex and stringent as you move up to more sophisticated levels of operations.
In my opinion 100 feet doesn't seem like a lot of altitude to the day VFR pilot, but in many IFR based operations that is the difference between day and night.
., I meant in the navigation segment of the flight and the duration of your flight where heading/alt/speed are closely monitored. This includes straight and level, navigation exercise, instrument work, steep turns, etc. Obvs that 100 feet rule doesn't apply to all exercises.
As you better know altitude parameters becomes more complex and stringent as you move up to more sophisticated levels of operations.
In my opinion 100 feet doesn't seem like a lot of altitude to the day VFR pilot, but in many IFR based operations that is the difference between day and night.
