Kenn Borek Scooping Up All DHC-6 Pilots

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Just Courious :

I have to many people wanting me to teach them how to fly the f.ckin PBY's that I can't apply anyhow....

However what you could do is hire some of my offspring they should have kids of their own by now.

It would be easy to determine if they really are mine because like huntin dogs they would just naturally be awsome airplane drivers just from instinct.

Hell there is the answer to your crewing issues....

Say hello to Fred for me...

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Does eating a Fish I caught out of Shell lake count for medical shots? ah the fights at the trapper and wings at the Finto. Come visit beautiful downtown Inuvik.
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Cat, some advice here-- make sure you list on your resume all the Transport Canada courses you've taken :wink:

Sorry Cat, you know I wouldn't pester you if I didn't think like you.
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I thought the whole thing sounded pretty good, right up to the part where you might have to go into Northern Quebec.

Does anybody really live way up there?

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You guys still using North Wright as a farm team? :twisted:
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Of course. 8)

Of course, when they come over, they have to lose the tie and that's often traumatic.
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OW wrote:I thought the whole thing sounded pretty good, right up to the part where you might have to go into Northern Quebec.
Does anybody really live way up there?
8)
  • it's actually really far south to northern Quebec
  • And yes, we do.
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I can remember shooting pool in the old air Radio station at Sachs Harbour an humming along to the song...South to Alaska in 1969.... :D :D

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As it happens, the pool table in the YSY weather station is gone. But if you had more recent otter time (none of them are made of wood these days :wink: ) then you, and perhaps a half dozen friends might be going to a place that has 45 different ways to say snow, but only one common way to whine about it. Might be a nice time to meet your kids!

We might take you anyway just to get that PBY5A off the lakeshore. :wink:

As with most other rumours, this one may not have any bearing in fact, but it may be a busier summer than previous years.
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Yes I think that with the problems in the middle east you are going to see oil exploration in the Arctic spool up again.

Enjoy the daylight, it's been a long winter.

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Implicit here seems to be the idea that you have to be some idea of a "golden arm" test pilot to fly a twotter.

I might be wrong, but a twotter sure looks like a slow, gentle old cow of an airplane from here. Landing a twotter is probably a little bit easier than a night carrier landing in an F-4, ya think? :lol:
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While yes, it may appear to be an old gentle cow, and often is; fill the cow with milk, put'er on skates and have her run at a 50 foot high fence 600 feet away, and see how she leaps.

To be fair, there isn't a lot of tough systems in the machine, and face it, most new FO's are not going to be doing the off-strip/ rough water/ hard sastrugi takeoffs or landings.

Our main issue when hiring newer drivers is that they do not often understand that they will be doing all of this often in the same month, over 3 time zones.

Generally, we find it easier to pay a bit more and steal people who have some related experience.
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I believe what Just Courious is trying to explain is it is more the enviorement in which the Twin Otters are flown than it is how hard the airplane is to fly.

Why I can remember flying a Twin Otter in.............................

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.................... :D :D

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hey just curious....i'm having a tough time understanding why doing that kind of flying over 3 different time zones is a problem? could you elaborate a bit? maybe i just missed something....
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Each of those times zones are six hours apart. Skiis or tundra tires in the arctic, then floats in the 'Dives, then ferry an aircraft somewhere else, all in the same pay period.
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Although its been a while since I've been babysat by the ole DHC-6, the memories are pleasant, and as so often happens with age, most of the bad ones have been erased. As JC said, the twotter is a docile, forgiving old girl, which never ceases to amaze. Also, as is typical of a dehav bush plane is bullet proof. Many a -50 morning the otter has fired up without complaint, with only having been plugged in, tented, and the battery lying next to my sleeping bag. Only to go out careening over rock hard drifts, with way to much drill gear in the back. Some mornings it hurts to bend over to tie up the shoes, twin otter back never seems to go away, does it JC. While the twotter is slow and easy to fly, its what otter-skinners do with it that is challenging. And as with life, so often experience comes with making mistakes. Landing on tundra that looked firm from the air, then sinking up to the belly makes for a long day. Sitting at the end of that 600 ft. esker, looking back at your load, no scales here, the geologist said each sample bag weighed only 50 lbs., but man some sure felt heavier than that, oh well, she'll go, lotsa room. The experienced driver is valuable, especially with time in all configs, and they are becoming scarcer in supply, as most have moved on, and from what I've seen, most young pilots are not interested in careers solely in the bush. A shame, because the people you meet, and the remote parts of the world you will see, truly make the job enrichening.
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I have apx 900h total time, bulk of it on the twin. All hours flown from the 60th and north (some of it way up there). Think I have a shot at a job?
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Just heard the other day that Kenn is still looking for 10 F/O's for the T/O. All you Twin Otter operates better lock up you crews or start treating them properly!! :D
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I forget how this thread originated.

However, after my recent visit to HQ, we are short of Captains on the Float side of things, and the Beechcraft side of things. So...

If you have an ATPL & are current, or recent on BE10, 20, 90, or 99, or have recently held an otter PPC with 500 of it on floats, and 1000 tt floats, this might be an opportune time. We are out of promotable co-pilots, so that is why we are looking. We have a couple coming up on time in a couple months, but not right now.

Read the various threads, good and bad. Nothing's ever perfect, but I happen to like the place. AFTER that, if yer interested, PM me with specific questions.

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Does Borek offer fill-in-the-blank contracts for positions for the season? or is it all full-time permanent? What I'm getting at is , do they hire seasonal capts for , say, the Canadian winter in the Maldives? I know of a bunch that go down for TMA... not sure if Borek ever did or still does that?

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Yes, we have a few permanent part timers, generally Bomber pilots
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Can you request a specific base? By base I mean not go to mali. Or is it, if you dont go you are an invaluable employee, Borek interests me very much, Mali does not.
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JC Wrote:

"Get the Chief Pilot's name right"

..........And, who would that be these days??????
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Just curious,

Does Kenn Borek Air know you are claiming to represent the company and are painting it up as an arrogant shithole of a place in which people good enough to express an interest in working there are treated the way you say they are.

As for that other guy who says "I've always wanted to work at Kenn Borek", I can only ask why. Can you not set your sites higher than your shoelaces. I've never wanted to work there and I wasn't even aware of the crap Just Curious just treated us to above.

Just curious.
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Ogee wrote:Just curious,

Does Kenn Borek Air know you are claiming to represent the company and are painting it up as an arrogant shithole of a place in which people good enough to express an interest in working there are treated the way you say they are.

As for that other guy who says "I've always wanted to work at Kenn Borek", I can only ask why. Can you not set your sites higher than your shoelaces. I've never wanted to work there and I wasn't even aware of the crap Just Curious just treated us to above.

Just curious.
Ogee, settle down. I think we all understand that KB is not for everybody. As for me, I could work there, on the TO's that is. Where else can you work where they let you land on 400 feet of Terra Firma out in the middle of the Devils' playground with only your wits to guide you? It ain't a comfortable job, never has been. But I tried something similar once and I can tell you all the BS is worth it-for ME. Your mileage may vary. I would rather put a bullet in my head than work for AC, WJ ,JAZZ,...etc. but I don't go around telling guys that want to do that kind of thing that they are wrong. I just tell em they're pussies.
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