TC sends Collection Agency after me

[Northern Skies]

I'm fightin' this one too.

Anyway, the collectcorp stuff stopped coming in.

I just got a letter from another collection agency in my forwarded mail.

And today I got a message that some guy from transport called!!!!! This is the only thing I can think of them calling about.

Has anyone else been called???

I need rebuttals and refeernces to tax law before they finally get to me, anyone have advice?

[ASL]

So Paul how many people took you up on your offer?

One person did, Doc. He also asked how the $110 contributes to aviation safety, which I forwarded as a CAIRs issue so he can get a proper response. My point was that whether or not one receives the ASL at home, I am quite sure it wont affect the fee. If anyone gets a partial refund after cancelling the ASL, please let me know...

The magazine aint perfect and not all articles will please everyone. But I am fighting to keep it alive, interesting and not to suffer the fate of the AIM, which if you did not know, will no longer be available in paper format after the Oct 08 issue. The subscription base was too low to make it cost effective for printing. Makes you feel like amending the old AIP wasn't a bad deal after all... Oh and those AIC's and Notams... I wonder how many people read them on the NAVCAN website after laborious 47 clicks.

I am planning to include snippets of the AIM in each issue of the ASL starting in 2009... but there just so much I can throw in those 40 pages. Perhaps I should print some of the juicy threads on avcanada instead...

PM

[Cat Driver]

Perhaps I should print some of the juicy threads on avcanada instead...

[Apollo]

Been getting the calls for a couple days now - the "Accounts Recovery Corporation" In nicer terms, I told them to blow a goat.

[old metal]

I kept getting those collection letters and just ignored them, then when I got my tax return there was a debit for 110.00 So if you ignore them long enough eventually they'll just do what they used to with dead beat pilots like me

[Cat Driver]

Where TC has problems extorting this unfair tax is with people who are self employed and don't give the tax department their money to spend before they know what they owe.

Like I said I didn't pay them for ten years and they couldn't take it out of the money I had over donated.

[Northern Skies]

Been getting the calls for a couple days now - the "Accounts Recovery Corporation" In nicer terms, I told them to blow a goat.

Ok, the message to me seemed like the guy was actually from transport, but I think that got confused somewhere down the line. I heard he called today as well, and it sounds like he's cold calling people all day from what I heard ie. kinda stunned. Was it a "Mr. Barier?"

[E-Flyer]

...for $55

Has anyone else had this happen?

I am surprised because:

a) I've paid all my fees this year (for the first time in a long time), and
b) If I don't, I'll usually get the standard letter stating that they'll deduct the balance off my tax return, etc

So...is this a new thing?

Yea i had to pay some 55 dollar thing and the invoice stated some Medical Renewal?... lol I already paid my 130 bucks to the doc.

[scrambled_legs]

So this guy I know doesn't bother paying the $55 charge until just prior to submitting his taxes. So he gets his taxes back minus the $55 dollars with a notice as to why it was deducted and who to call in order to get reimbursed. So he calls the Government agency who says they will be sending the reimbursement by cheque, if TC doesn't reimburse it first. So he calls TC who reverses the charges on the credit card. So a month goes by and all of a sudden, he gets a cheque in the mail for $55 from the government as well. Not to bad, loaned them $55 for a short time period and suddenly I'm free and clear. Me thinks he'll try this again next year.

[Strega]

Does anyone know for sure 100% that TCCA or this "collection agency" will or will not notify equifax/transunion?

[phillyfan]

They were calling me daily at work and also making automated calls to my work every so often. I just ended up paying the bastards.

[E-Flyer]

So this guy I know doesn't bother paying the $55 charge until just prior to submitting his taxes. So he gets his taxes back minus the $55 dollars with a notice as to why it was deducted and who to call in order to get reimbursed. So he calls the Government agency who says they will be sending the reimbursement by cheque, if TC doesn't reimburse it first. So he calls TC who reverses the charges on the credit card. So a month goes by and all of a sudden, he gets a cheque in the mail for $55 from the government as well. Not to bad, loaned them $55 for a short time period and suddenly I'm free and clear. Me thinks he'll try this again next year.

You're friend is hilarious LOL!

[Apollo]

Been getting the calls for a couple days now - the "Accounts Recovery Corporation" In nicer terms, I told them to blow a goat.

Ok, the message to me seemed like the guy was actually from transport, but I think that got confused somewhere down the line. I heard he called today as well, and it sounds like he's cold calling people all day from what I heard ie. kinda stunned. Was it a "Mr. Barier?"

Same guy - Barier, or Berier, or something like that - just called again. He's defiantly not from TC, and kept on telling me that it's a "processing fee" for some pencilpusher to shuffle the paper across the desk... ugh. Is there ANYTHING we can do about this? I really don't want it to @#$! with my credit.

[Strega]

Thats just it,

I dont think they can eff with your credit.

bottom line as I see it, pay TC not this jerk off outfit.


Someone needs to create a form letter that you can simply click on, that will send a letter to TCCA expressing the disqust we all have towards the TCCA medical "fee" aka tax

[wannabatp]

Thats just it,

I dont think they can eff with your credit.

bottom line as I see it, pay TC not this jerk off outfit.


Someone needs to create a form letter that you can simply click on, that will send a letter to TCCA expressing the disqust we all have towards the TCCA medical "fee" aka tax

Late last year, while writing my ATPL exams in Winnipeg, I offered the nice lady at the desk to pay for my outstanding medical fees. I had one recent (less than 3 months) and the other was over a year old. She told me she couldn't accept any money because both had already gone to collections. They were happy to accept payment for the exams though.

If TC doesn't want my money, why should I give it to Guido the Kneecapper? Not that I've heard from any collection agencies since then, but that may be because they haven't caught up to me yet. 5 moves in a year will probably do that. I guess it'll be CCRA that gets the money.

Cheers!

[Morav]

I'd love to pay Transport Canada the way this guy paid a towing company.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c70_1249334091

[MrWings]

I wouldn't have released the car until he counted them in front of her.

Canada has a law against that foolishness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_tender#In_Canada

[North Shore]

....Riiiggghhhhhht - cause a hassle for the people who are responsible for issuing you a document that is necessary for you to earn your livelihood. Especially when the people doing the dealing probably have no control over the fee in the first place. Good way to get help/service in the future if you need it...

[ehbuddy]

I am still trying to figure out what this fee is for and why we are still getting charged????

[SurfViper]

I've never agreed with this fee either.

The Civil Aviation Medical Examiner is the one doing the bulk of the work (which we pay them a fee for). The Regional Aviation Medical Officer then supposedly reviews this work while support staff record it electronically and stuff the hard copy in a filing cabinet. For this relatively small effort we are charged an additional $55?! Really?! Wow, I wish I could get in to the regulatory business!!

Even their own audit on the issue conducted by Audit and Advisory Services seems to reflect my personal sentiments:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/corporate-servi ... 06-356.htm

"However, while the annual cost of administering the RPF has not been quantified, the fee is still characterized by a high volume of transactions requiring significant processing and collection effort to generate a relatively low volume of revenue."

(RPF == Recurring Pilot Fees).

Isn't this akin to the local office supply store telling you that they 'quantify the cost' of a package of paper clips at roughly $100 'cause they're shiny and shiny things ought not to be anything but expensive? Not only that, but even if you could prove that $100 was a ridiculously inaccurate valuation of the paper clips, they would still cost that much simply because of the unbelievably unbearable administration and overhead associated with selling multiple packages of paper clips.

Even the CARs don't seem to provide any detail on this fee. Item 21 on Schedule IV here: http://www.tc.gc.ca/civilaviation/regse ... m#104_07_2 At least with some of the items on Schedule V an hourly fee of $40 per TC technical specialist is used as a basis for the charges.

$55 now smells even more like a very random number to me...

If anyone has more current information please do share.

In the meantime, I'll step off the soapbox and turn off the sarcasm.

[200hr Wonder]

Just write them a check...

[CD]

If anyone has more current information please do share...

There is no more "current" information than what I already posted in the link above. No proposed changes have been brought forward since all of the fees were harmonized at $55 in 2000:

This amendment will replace the 14 separate combinations of pilot documents and validity periods and the 4 alternative fees with a single fee for the processing of pilot medical certificates, regardless of the type of licence or permit held or of the length of the validity period. The new fee will be the lowest of the current 4 alternative possibilities, i.e., $55 for the processing of a medical certificate. Those pilots currently paying $55 for the processing of their medical certificates will continue to pay $55. Those pilots who currently pay more than $55 will realize a reduction of between $15 and $130 in the fees they pay under this proposal.

If someone is really serious about wanting to propose a change to any regulation, standard or advisory, here is the process to follow:

Requests for Regualtory Action

[xsbank]

EVERY government transaction is outrageously overpriced because of the overhead. "We need to hire a Rubber Stamp Supervisor to supervise the use and proper storage of the rubber stamps." No private business (except maybe NavCanada or Canadair, who used to be government) can afford the overhead the government lays on.

How much do you think it costs to collect a dollar of tax off of you?

[human garbage]

Does anyone know for sure 100% that TCCA or this "collection agency" will or will not notify equifax/transunion?

Not 100% but I was told in regards to provincial medical payments that the Gov't doesn't go around messing with your credit. In that case it was certainly true. I had dicked them around totally and didn't get anything on my credit. This TC stuff is a pittance by comparison, and I 'owe' them $400 at least. I doubt it will cause you problems. As I've said before when the registered letters show up then start to worry...

I don't worry about it. I will continue to tell them to get bent.

[Slats]

A couple months ago I finally got sick of all the automated calls and messages from the accounts receivable company so I called the number and had a nice chat with the lady that answered. We discussed the foolishness of the fee and she commiserated with me. I politely told her that it would likely be a cold day in hell before I paid, but asked for my payment options just in case I had a sudden and dramatic change of heart. She laughed, said she understood and it didn't really bother her. Haven't got a call or a message since.