Nationair Crash & Website
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- Siddley Hawker
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Siddley Hawker wrote:Whatever happened to Obladi Obladah anyway? Wasn't he last heard from in Brazil?
"Robert Obadia" as many know his name to be was last heard to be hiding in South America. He was behind a feeble attempt at a start up company that lasted 30 days shortly after Nationair went under. I can't remember if this 2nd company ever did get off the ground.
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Forever Young
Trapped in the glorious years
within the memory of belief, lost of all grief.
Take the reasons,
which once seemed so clear,
but never mind, you have nothing to fear.
For you my friends will be, forever young,
Forever in the heart of memories.
Lost in the glory of all time,
the wisdom was there within those smiles,
You see you could have told us,
there within lies the mystery.
So shed a smile, and grin a tear,
For you my friends, will be,
Forever young, Forever young.
Forever in the heart of memory,
We see not through or misery.
Forever young, forever young.
There's are new angels tonight.
Until next year folks...everyone have a safe year.
MT
Trapped in the glorious years
within the memory of belief, lost of all grief.
Take the reasons,
which once seemed so clear,
but never mind, you have nothing to fear.
For you my friends will be, forever young,
Forever in the heart of memories.
Lost in the glory of all time,
the wisdom was there within those smiles,
You see you could have told us,
there within lies the mystery.
So shed a smile, and grin a tear,
For you my friends, will be,
Forever young, Forever young.
Forever in the heart of memory,
We see not through or misery.
Forever young, forever young.
There's are new angels tonight.
Until next year folks...everyone have a safe year.
MT
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Re: Nationair Crash & Website
So how high up the ladder of incompetence has this gem risen within the management of TCCA?"It wasn't the company's fault!"
former FA turned management - immediately after the crash, before any facts were known. Now works with the Ministry of Transport in Canada, ensuring the safety of the travelling public.
//edit by Sully to remove name
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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Re: Nationair Crash & Website
That is truely some horrific stuff, how can a company treat people like that, makes me sick . Sorry about your loss Birddog.
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From personal experience flying Flight Attendant training flights when she was aboard as a cabin inspector, I can attest to her status as a brainless idiot.
As for Robert Obadia and his kindred brethren Michel LeBlanc, in a perfect world both of them would be in prison. Instead both of them have for years been protected by government friends through Transport Canada. They continue to be an embarrassing stain on our reputation here in Canada.
As for Robert Obadia and his kindred brethren Michel LeBlanc, in a perfect world both of them would be in prison. Instead both of them have for years been protected by government friends through Transport Canada. They continue to be an embarrassing stain on our reputation here in Canada.
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Re: Nationair Crash & Website
Can "" a n y o n e '' explain to me how people such as this one end up in management in TCCA?From personal experience flying Flight Attendant training flights when she was aboard as a cabin inspector, I can attest to her status as a brainless idiot.
Please , pretty please can someone explain this to me?
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
Re: Nationair Crash & Website
It was hard to read Kent's transcript and the story behind the accident. I'll never forget reading Kent and Aldo were onboard. Incredibly sad.
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Re: Nationair Crash & Website
Sorry to have demeaned your employer Paul by asking this question.
You are of course correct that using a persons real name is against the forum rules and we should be very careful in how we make our posts.Cat Driver wrote:
So how high up the ladder of incompetence has this gem risen within the management of TCCA?
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
Re: Nationair Crash & Website
"Get over it"ASL wrote:
What started here as a tribute to a tragic accident in 1991 has degenerated in a slanderous and hateful attack on an individual by name, who was attributed a quote some 17 years ago which may or may not even be factual. Get over it, it was 17 years ago ....
Are you retarded...???
HOW DARE YOU COME ON HERE AND TELL THE FAMILIES AND FRIENDS OF THE VICTIMS OF THE NATIONAIR CRASH ON THIS THREAD TO "GET OVER IT"
....The best thing for you to do is never log in on this site....ever again.
Your presence INSULTS ME!
(I can't believe this sh!t)
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Re: Nationair Crash & Website
Easy does it there I am Birddog, best to not get on the wrong side of someone who works for the regulator as it can get very, very expensive career wise.
Take it from someone who knows.
Take it from someone who knows.
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
Re: Nationair Crash & Website
Paul,
I noticed you use your title at TCCA on this site. Is this supposed to make the moderators "cave" to your requests? or to make others think you may or may not know what your talking about?
you have made very innapropriate comments regarding a tradgedy in wich someone (who could be named in this thread or not) made a BIG boo-boo.
My advice (keep in mind it is the membership here that pay your salary) is to go back and write more articles about coffee drinking, Im guessing your rather good at it.
IABD and his lost friends' families deserve more.
I noticed you use your title at TCCA on this site. Is this supposed to make the moderators "cave" to your requests? or to make others think you may or may not know what your talking about?
you have made very innapropriate comments regarding a tradgedy in wich someone (who could be named in this thread or not) made a BIG boo-boo.
My advice (keep in mind it is the membership here that pay your salary) is to go back and write more articles about coffee drinking, Im guessing your rather good at it.
IABD and his lost friends' families deserve more.
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All I said was that this thread was not being moderated as it should be. The "get over it" comment has nothing to do with the accident itself, but is addressed to the continued libelous attacks on a person, by name, who had little or nothing to do with the accident. That's all.
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ASL/Paul,
The person in question is alleged to have made a misleading and indefensible statement regarding the Nationair crash. While it is true that the source for that comment is not cited anywhere that I can currently find, please trust that in the next few days I will be examining the archives of every major newspaper at the time to find what was clearly a spurious conclusion from a person in a position of authority. An inspector does exercise an enormous amount of power regardless of their rank in management. The individual's name is already public, though certainly here, it must remain hidden.
Your dismissive comment of "get over it" was surprising and disappointing given how reasonable and open you initially presented in another thread. Perhaps your best tactic here was to PM a moderator, rather than get involved in defending one of your own before all the facts were in. There is a perception that this already goes on far too much where TC is concerned.
I'm sure the person in question is a much different, more mature, perhaps wiser individual than 17 years ago. But that doesn't release them from being accountable for previous actions/words. That must make sense to you, doesn't it?
The person in question is alleged to have made a misleading and indefensible statement regarding the Nationair crash. While it is true that the source for that comment is not cited anywhere that I can currently find, please trust that in the next few days I will be examining the archives of every major newspaper at the time to find what was clearly a spurious conclusion from a person in a position of authority. An inspector does exercise an enormous amount of power regardless of their rank in management. The individual's name is already public, though certainly here, it must remain hidden.
Your dismissive comment of "get over it" was surprising and disappointing given how reasonable and open you initially presented in another thread. Perhaps your best tactic here was to PM a moderator, rather than get involved in defending one of your own before all the facts were in. There is a perception that this already goes on far too much where TC is concerned.
I'm sure the person in question is a much different, more mature, perhaps wiser individual than 17 years ago. But that doesn't release them from being accountable for previous actions/words. That must make sense to you, doesn't it?
Are we there yet?
Re: Nationair Crash & Website
ASL wrote:All I said was that this thread was not being moderated as it should be. The "get over it" comment has nothing to do with the accident itself, but is addressed to the continued libelous attacks on a person, by name, who had little or nothing to do with the accident. That's all.
In whos mind? yours? TCCA? the victims families?
What have you done to help put those responsible for this failing in jail?
(besides writing about coffee?)
whats more important to a bureaucrat, tires that are in good shape, or tires that are in good shape on paper?
Whats more important to a bureaucrat? live persons? or dead persons?
What more important to you Mr ASL. safe aviation? or the illusion of safe aviation?
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No kidding. The Lord may have said that "vengence is mine"best to not get on the wrong side of someone who works for the regulator as it can get very, very expensive career wise
but clearly he never dealt with Transport.
I really don't mind being attacked for the rest of my career
but it bothers me that my family members are attacked,
too. I'm not sure why my kids have to leave Canada if
they want to fly, but that's just the way it is.
It's interesting that even the Mob won't attack family - children
and parents are off-bounds.
The irony of Transport telling accident victims to
"get over it" is eye-opening.
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My apologies everyone, I certainly did not come here to make a fuss or to disrespect anyone. If I did I am truly sorry and it wont happen again.
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I removed the specific name references to the inspector - we generally try not to use specific names if we are talking about someone in a negative light.