Disrespect in Quebec

[habit]

NOT ONCE DID I USE THE TERM FROG

[Rudder Bug]

Hey I know, but I did!

[habit]

support the troops

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Would like to see ottawa finance a public holiday on the day Gen Wolfe whiped the shit out of the frogs on the plains of Abraham.Would be atreat for us peons.

NOT ONCE DID I USE THE TERM FROG

Hey I know, but I did!

I don't think thats even creative and/or clever anymore. In fact...the level of intelligence you display here by using that term just gave me an urge to go take a dump.

Hey "dumb-dumbs" the Nazi's in 1945 called, they want terms back.

Can we just stop that? on this site at least. It's NOT even creative enough to merit a laugh.

[SQ]

SQ, you must be a french canadian under 30.

nop
I'm a french european over 30and++ whose grandfather fought in 1914 in the trenches, in 1940 on dunkerque's beach, and his son, my father, did the algerian war and some of Dien Bien Phu, Vietnam.
european have participated to more wars in 100 years than all canadian army in 400 years, this can explain why they appreciate the art of diplomacy.
BTW having a walk in the trenches remains of verdun is one of the most impressive scene you can have the occasion to see, even 100 years later. you'll reconsider the support to the troops and all that shit.

Support the troops. It's not THEIR choice to be wherever they've been sent by the governing body.

unfortunatly it is part of the job. as long as there is not conscription and that enroll is a deliberate choice, I'll never feel sorry for those ones.
I prefer to support afghan civilians... are not the forces over there to help them recover from the talibans violence and build roads ??

[habit]

SQ, you must be a french canadian under 30.

nop
I'm a french european over 30and++ whose grandfather fought in 1914 in the trenches, in 1940 on dunkerque's beach, and his son, my father, did the algerian war and some of Dien Bien Phu, Vietnam.
european have participated to more wars in 100 years than all canadian army in 400 years, this can explain why they appreciate the art of diplomacy.
BTW having a walk in the trenches remains of verdun is one of the most impressive scene you can have the occasion to see, even 100 years later. you'll reconsider the support to the troops and all that shit.

Support the troops. It's not THEIR choice to be wherever they've been sent by the governing body.

unfortunatly it is part of the job. as long as there is not conscription and that enroll is a deliberate choice, I'll never feel sorry for those ones.
I prefer to support afghan civilians... are not the forces over there to help them recover from the talibans violence and build roads ??

First of all Canada has not been around for 400 years, and as for your comment for not feeling sorry for troops killed in Afghanastan that is a typical comment from a true frenchmen who by the way had their asses rescued during ww2 by the voulnteer army of the allies, too bad you do not live up to what seems to be the brave lineage of your father and grandfather and if you ever are killed by some fanatic i will feel no empathy towards such a coward as yourself.A voulnteer force in my opinion deserves more respect as they choose to put their life on the line for their country, something you obviously do not understand, HOW DARE you say you feel no sorrow for our troops who are killed in the line of duty, so is that your feeling towards police officers and firefighters who are killed on the job? in your feeble mind they choose the job where untimely death is a part of the job so too bad for them is it? that is quite a disturbing opinion of those who choose to protect us at the risk of their own lives.I personally feel empathy for any person and their family who dies in such a tragic fashion

[SQ]

First of all Canada has not been around for 400 years, and as for your comment for not feeling sorry for troops killed in Afghanastan that is a typical comment from a true frenchmen who by the way had their asses rescued during ww2 by the voulnteer army of the allies,

thats the prob since this time : some americans think they gonna save the world... from what? sheperd with mk47 ?

too bad you do not live up to what seems to be the brave lineage of your father and grandfather and if you ever are killed by some fanatic i will feel no empathy towards such a coward as yourself.

I have to admitt the most dangerous fanatic i had to face is you.

A voulnteer force in my opinion deserves more respect as they choose to put their life on the line for their country, something you obviously do not understand, HOW DARE you say you feel no sorrow for our troops who are killed in the line of duty, so is that your feeling towards police officers and firefighters who are killed on the job? in your feeble mind they choose the job where untimely death is a part of the job so too bad for them is it? that is quite a disturbing opinion of those who choose to protect us at the risk of their own lives.I personally feel empathy for any person and their family who dies in such a tragic fashion

There such a cultural gap concerning that specific part of the conversation that it is useless to continue.
I still see that the life of a single north american soldier is worth ten times the one of an iraki or afghan children, and thus is over-rated.
do you imagine if all the middle east airport would have to stop activities when bringing home the remains of their dead as we do in canada ?
let me laugh... a soldier's job is to die, period. I'm not a groupie either, sorry.

[habit]

A soldier's job is to Die??????? You dirty piece of eurotrash what a fuking disrespectful statement you are less than a human you are less than dogshit with such A pathetic offensive statement, though you are from france so i guess it is second nature. I never said a soldier's life is worth more than a civillian, I just have tremendous respect for these soldiers willing to lay their lives down for their country which unfortunately contains people like you. I am not going to say if I support the war or not, but supporting our fellow citizens as they serve our country is somthing a degenerate like yourself will never understand, you actually do make me sick, you deserve to live under a dictatorship or tyrant as you do not deserve the freedom that soldiers of the past defended and died for. So is the job of a fireman or police officer to die as well, GET OUT OF CANADA please!!!

SUUPORT THE TROOPS

[Epsilon]

You should go to sleep now habit. Getting worked up like that is bad for your health.

[LH]

A note from someone a little older than the rest of you and also a Canadian of duel citizenship with the USA.

There has not been a war that Canada has ever been involved in where SOME Quebecois did not support that war or the troops from Quebec who were involved in it. So there is no news in that fact because it has happened many times before, therefore you're 'beating a dead horse'. Having said that much, the record also shows that Quebecois have won their share of medals in all of those wars and so everyone else can shut their mouths on that subject. Next, a person joins the military, not to go to war but for a multitude of other reasons. It may shock many to hear that many join the military and the last place they want to go is to a combat theatre. That is why there is a long, silent record of certain happenings that occur about the time that announcements are made that maybe a military will be dispatched to a combat theatre.......the sudden anouncement concerning the retirement of senior personnel and others who decide that they'll just get out quickly. Cowards? Not at all, but that's not what they joined for. Surprisingly to some, there are a multitude of Trades and Technical professions that have absolutely nothing to do with firing a weapon. See folks, the military is not a Democracy either.......you get to vote on NOTHING..... andNEVER assume that if someone joins a military that they are hoping to go to war. So the military is the very last place to go if you are looking for those who WANT/WISH to go to war. Those of you who haven't been to war are ignorant of what it is all about and your only reference is to what you have seen on the TV or in the movies. If you believe that that is what it is truly like then I envy you in your ignorance and pray that you will always remain so. Also remember that just because you saw and heard some Quebecois protesting against Canadian troops as they marched along, does not mean that you heard or saw the opinions of the majority of Quebecois. You would have seen protesters doing the exact same thing, for the exact same reasons, no matter where those troops would have marched in Canada so there's nothing unique at all about the fact it happened in Quebec.....and most you know that also.......or do you think that those against that war only live in Quebec?

[habit]

SQ, you must be a french canadian under 30.

nop
I'm a french european over 30and++ whose grandfather fought in 1914 in the trenches, in 1940 on dunkerque's beach, and his son, my father, did the algerian war and some of Dien Bien Phu, Vietnam.
european have participated to more wars in 100 years than all canadian army in 400 years, this can explain why they appreciate the art of diplomacy.
BTW having a walk in the trenches remains of verdun is one of the most impressive scene you can have the occasion to see, even 100 years later. you'll reconsider the support to the troops and all that shit.

Support the troops. It's not THEIR choice to be wherever they've been sent by the governing body.

unfortunatly it is part of the job. as long as there is not conscription and that enroll is a deliberate choice, I'll never feel sorry for those ones.
I prefer to support afghan civilians... are not the forces over there to help them recover from the talibans violence and build roads ??

Well SQ,
I am glad to see you represent the very small minority of people on AVCanada and I would assume Canada as well, so you enjoy your life on the fringe.

[timbob]

Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordian...

[YCL Boy]

Sad news,
Two brothers both soldiers from Quebec killed in a highway crash just outside Quebec city.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story ... t0722.html

And for those of you who think about 40 to 50 protesters represent 6 million Quebecers,
May i ask which province your 'e from?
Then again don't answer, i don't waste much of my time here.

Very Unfortunate.

[AuxBatOn]

It may shock many to hear that many join the military and the last place they want to go is to a combat theatre. That is why there is a long, silent record of certain happenings that occur about the time that announcements are made that maybe a military will be dispatched to a combat theatre.......the sudden anouncement concerning the retirement of senior personnel and others who decide that they'll just get out quickly. Cowards? Not at all, but that's not what they joined for. Surprisingly to some, there are a multitude of Trades and Technical professions that have absolutely nothing to do with firing a weapon

I have to disagree with that statement. As a military myself, I do not want to serve with people that are not ready to take a riffle and deploy. Many technical trades personnel may eventually go in theater, have to carry a weapon and god forbid, fire it. How is that possible will you ask? When they deploy a 6-pack of Hornets in theater, they have to deploy the "technical" trades as well. EVERYBODY can deploy, no matter what trade. Soldier first.

Not to mention that by working with the military, wether you're in theater or at home, you are still supporting people in theater, those ones firing weapons and yes, killing people. If you get in the military only to get good quality training and not deploy, that isn't the job for you.

Cowards? No. Hypocrites? Yes.

AuxBatOn

[Guido]

It may shock many to hear that many join the military and the last place they want to go is to a combat theatre. That is why there is a long, silent record of certain happenings that occur about the time that announcements are made that maybe a military will be dispatched to a combat theatre.......the sudden anouncement concerning the retirement of senior personnel and others who decide that they'll just get out quickly. Cowards? Not at all, but that's not what they joined for. Surprisingly to some, there are a multitude of Trades and Technical professions that have absolutely nothing to do with firing a weapon

I have to disagree with that statement. As a military myself, I do not want to serve with people that are not ready to take a riffle and deploy. Many technical trades personnel may eventually go in theater, have to carry a weapon and god forbid, fire it. How is that possible will you ask? When they deploy a 6-pack of Hornets in theater, they have to deploy the "technical" trades as well. EVERYBODY can deploy, no matter what trade. Soldier first.

Not to mention that by working with the military, wether you're in theater or at home, you are still supporting people in theater, those ones firing weapons and yes, killing people. If you get in the military only to get good quality training and not deploy, that isn't the job for you.

Cowards? No. Hypocrites? Yes.

AuxBatOn

Serious question for a moment - does that apply to chaplains as well? I've been mulling over the idea of becoming a military chaplain once I'm done school, and frankly, I'll never fire a gun to kill another human being... so I wonder if that applies?

[LH]

Well, I too have a military background and one served in combat. I will say again, once more, that if one is looking any place for folks who WANT to go to war, then the military is the last place to go looking for those people. That applies 'in spades' to those who have seen combat and the horrors of war. If you haven't experienced the horrors of war, then just because you wear a uniform and have did all the training for war means little. All it means is that you are 'in the same boat' as your civilian peers except you get deployed to combat much quicker than they do.

Leaving the military after a lifetime of peaceful service to your country does not mean that you are a coward or a hypocrite. The military is a wonderful place to obtain a host of trades and professions that have their likeness in the civilian world. One can get that training and all that is required is a term of service to your country. Sometimes you 'picked the short straw' and have to be deployed to a combat theatre, but many have served their whole career and never been assigned to any such place. Ergo, they didn't join-up for that, but took their chances, but if they can retire or get out without doing so, then many will and have. Not WANTING to go to war does not make one a coward and anyone who believes that hasn't seen the horrors of war and 'baby'........it ain't like the movies one little bit........so get that stupid bloody idea outta your heads ASAP.

[AuxBatOn]

LH, serving for years and not being deployed doesn't make you a hypocrite. However, joining solely for training makes you one. Trying to DAG Red everytime your turn comes for a deployment also makes you one.

Nobody wants to go to war. But by the nature of our jobs (military), that's a possibility you have to be ready to accept.

[Dex]

Nobody wants to go to war........

Well that statement is pure horseshit!!!!

[TheCheez]

LH

The people who join with no desire to head to theatre I think are few and far between. Now, the number who, once they've made a career of the military, have several tours under their belt, families, children, 20+ years of service, a few extra pounds and good experience and skills that no longer want to be deployed are greater.

[LH]

Sorry folks, but once you have experienced the smells of JP-8, piss, warm blood, cordite, excrement, crying, praying, men holding their guts in with their hands or screaming about the pain in their legs when they don't have any, orders being screamed, cursing, incoming shells exploding together with small arms fire of all types.........and experienced that all at the same time, then you understand. So first you don the uniform and go into the above situations on numerous occasions and then we can converse about this subject once again. It will be a short conversation at that time because some things in this world can't be put into words. Until then, we both are operating under a disadvantage in which you've not had the above experiences on numerous occasions and I have envy of you for that. I envy you because of your ignorance and hope aand pray that you remain so whether you wear a military uniform or not because once you've 'been there', you'll curse those who can't settle their differences and feel they have to send you into Hell once again.

[Guido]

Sorry folks, but once you have experienced the smells of JP-8, piss, warm blood, cordite, excrement, crying, praying, men holding their guts in with their hands or screaming about the pain in their legs when they don't have any, orders being screamed, cursing, incoming shells exploding together with small arms fire of all types.........and experienced that all at the same time, then you understand. So first you don the uniform and go into the above situations on numerous occasions and then we can converse about this subject once again. It will be a short conversation at that time because some things in this world can't be put into words. Until then, we both are operating under a disadvantage in which you've not had the above experiences on numerous occasions and I have envy of you for that. I envy you because of your ignorance and hope aand pray that you remain so whether you wear a military uniform or not because once you've 'been there', you'll curse those who can't settle their differences and feel they have to send you into Hell once again.

I'm going to have to quote that to the next pro-war fucktard I get into a discussion with... hope you don't mind, LH.

[LH]

Guido -----won't work sir. It's just words, with no smells or sounds to go with......so you'll be wasting your breath.