ATPL

[setpower]

Hello guys,

Anyone recently write the ATPL/IATRA exams......

Can you recall any questions, or areas/sections to concentrate on?

Regards.

[Tim]

Wrote em a few months ago. Forget about all the 703/4/5 CARs, just worry about the same sort of stuff from the CPL (oxygen orders, flight over water, duty times). Learn about jetstream met and the upper level charts. The hardest part I found was the practical met, but still not bad. A few hrs of studying each day for a week was all I did and I found them quite easy. Buy the .'s books - second hand if you can - and you'll be all set.

[setpower]

thanks.

i have the aerocourse and the . books. did you write the IATRA or ATPL?

[Lost Lake]

Wrote em a few months ago. Forget about all the 703/4/5 CARs, just worry about the same sort of stuff from the CPL (oxygen orders, flight over water, duty times). Learn about jetstream met and the upper level charts. The hardest part I found was the practical met, but still not bad. A few hrs of studying each day for a week was all I did and I found them quite easy. Buy the ..'s books - second hand if you can - and you'll be all set.

That's a little dangerous advise. There is more than one ATPL exam. Each one, like all transport exams places emphasis on different areas. Study everything.

[Tim]

"Study everything"...very helpful. The advice is generic for all of them, the questions are different but the themes are the same. I had a buddy write at the same time as me and a few that had written in the few months before me and we compared notes after the fact and came to the same conclusions (especially about the 703/4/5 CARs). And for the record I now teach atpl groundschool, so I do have a bit of an idea of what I'm talking about. The list I gave obviously isn't all inclusive.

Setpower, I wrote the atpls not the iatra.

Some other things I've thought of were RVSM/CMNPS airspace requirements - that is just straight memorization. Know how to find mach number - purely a function of temperature. Charts for heavy a/c are on there (I think it was a DC-9) but those are fairly simple. Some tubine questions - this is where the aerocourse was better. The questions about navigation and navaids were pretty basic. I used both the . and the aerocourse. I found the . was better overall, but the two of them combined covered everything quite well. I studied for apporx 2 hrs for 4 or 5 days for each and got 89% and 90%. With a bit of studying they really aren't all that bad. I was quite pleasently surprised when I sat down to write them.

My overall impressions from the study books were the . was good for studying, but the exams questions were a little different than whats on the exams. The aerocourse study notes (apparently you need to take their GS course to get it - I had a copy from a buddy) wasn't great, but the exam questions were more along the lines of what TC asks.

Good luck with the A's

[Torn]

So what are these ".." books???

[Hedley]

"..." books are published by a lawyer who likes
to sue everybody. His name rhymes with "horse's mane",
and as I recall has threatened this website with legal
action if his name appears anywhere on it

[Torn]

Interesting... That's obviously why I never see them mentioned.

[Tim]

he may be a dickhead lawyer, but the books are good. buy em second hand really cheap (then sell em) and stick it to him.

[mhpilot]

For any of you guy's or ladies out there who don't have any of the study books, I have comprised a power point presentation for you to review, I will be posting it on my web site in the near future and update it as time goes on, until then I will host a presentation for you at your leisure.

Please note that this is provided on a donation basis.

[ajet32]

OK we can't mention that legal type who wrote some ATPL books. Well don't bother invest in the Aerocourse books, as a matter of fact take the course. It will be an experience you will remember for a long time. I took Peter's course 19 years ago passed all 3 exams INRAT , SAMRA , SARON all with high 80's. Interestingly enough I still keep in touch with Peter and some of the guys on the course turned out to be great career long contacts.
Next year at the 20th anniversary I'm going to take it again .

[Siddley Hawker]

s name rhymes with "horse's mane",

Sounds like you got the wrong of the the horse.

[rigpiggy]

OK we can't mention that legal type who wrote some ATPL books. Well don't bother invest in the Aerocourse books, as a matter of fact take the course. It will be an experience you will remember for a long time. I took Peter's course 19 years ago passed all 3 exams INRAT , SAMRA , SARON all with high 80's. Interestingly enough I still keep in touch with Peter and some of the guys on the course turned out to be great career long contacts.
Next year at the 20th anniversary I'm going to take it again .

+1, the other one is junk with many wrong answers, mind you quality may have improved since I took my A's

[Nark]

Come to the US, write a single ATPL (121 or 135), convert it back to Canadian.

Down here you get all the questions and answers to study beforehand. Takes away the fun in studying though...

I have no need to get a Canadian ATPL, so I'm not sure what that conversion test covers.