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What not to use as a ladder

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This is related to the story of the TAS agent that uses a sensor(s) to get into the plane, or something like that.

What are these sensors?

I've never worked on M2 planes. The only sensors I have worked with are OAT. I guess static ports count, but you

can't use them as ladder handles.

The only sensors on the outside.

In the other forum subject, they mention the sensors contribute to computers and other instruments.

I'm not sure what to google to look for more information on these sensors.

So I'm asking here.

Airplane sensor? M2 Sensor Instrumentation ?

A little help in the right direction would help.

Thanks.
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I would say they were refering to Pitot-Static tubes, angle-of-attack vanes, TAT sensors.
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the sensors were probably the pitot tubes on the side of the plane right under the pilots side window (the picture showed saab 340's) they feed information to the air data computer. the adc then provides display data to the efis screens, as well as a bunch of other stuff. so yeah pulling the pitot tube off of the side of an airplane is BAD, and really fucking expensive.
hopefully this guy will be charged with sabotaging an aircraft and sent to the slammer. it is very possible that one of the aircraft could have taken off with a screwed up sensor and crashed (its about as likely as someone hijacking a plane with a spork,but it could happen)
it is about time the governments in charge of these clowns took a hard look at airport "security"
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MZUNGO wrote:it is very possible that one of the aircraft could have taken off with a screwed up sensor and crashed (its about as likely as someone hijacking a plane with a spork,but it could happen)
Not so unlikely. Pretty easy for a distorted pitot-tube to present erroneous airspeed indication to the pilot, causing him to rotate at the wrong speed, and crash. Could very easily happen. Actually, this very thing recently caused the crash of a billion-dollar B-2 bomber in Guam, the only difference being that the distorted signal was caused by moisture in the pitot-tubes.
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i was refering to it being missed on the walkaround, at my company at least 2 people have to do one before the days flying.
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Oh. :oops:
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conehead wrote:
MZUNGO wrote:it is very possible that one of the aircraft could have taken off with a screwed up sensor and crashed (its about as likely as someone hijacking a plane with a spork,but it could happen)
Not so unlikely. Pretty easy for a distorted pitot-tube to present erroneous airspeed indication to the pilot, causing him to rotate at the wrong speed, and crash. Could very easily happen. Actually, this very thing recently caused the crash of a billion-dollar B-2 bomber in Guam, the only difference being that the distorted signal was caused by moisture in the pitot-tubes.
Ya but those a/c dont require a computer to fly like the B2. I seem to recall reading somewhere that the B2 couldnt aerodynamically fly with out the computer or something like that to keep it controlled.
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Yeah, I know of a CRJ that had a ladder dropped (well slid down)on a AOA vane and cocked it in the receptical or at least that's what is assumed happened, anyway it couldn't move freely and when the AC went to go flying all hell broke loose. Once it rotated the stall warning kicked in and the stick shakers went off and if anyone knows what comes next, yup the bird dives for the ground, so the pilot is fighting with the stick, the poor kid in the RHS is kissing his ass goodbuy. Well needless to say the pilot got it back on probably the worst trip around the patch ever. There was blood all over the glareshield I can't recall if it was from a cut caused in the chaos or the FO's nose exploded from the stress. No one ever copped to what really happened to the AOA vane but that place was very lucky and the pilot did a good job of handling a crappy situation.
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niss wrote:
Ya but those a/c dont require a computer to fly like the B2. I seem to recall reading somewhere that the B2 couldnt aerodynamically fly with out the computer or something like that to keep it controlled.

and where do you think the computer gets its information
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Cobra64 wrote:
niss wrote:
Ya but those a/c dont require a computer to fly like the B2. I seem to recall reading somewhere that the B2 couldnt aerodynamically fly with out the computer or something like that to keep it controlled.

and where do you think the computer gets its information
True, but my point was that since the B2 is so unstable and requires the control of the computer that puts the control out of the pilots....well... control. An erroneous speed reading wouldn't necessarily cause the pilot to yank back on the controls like that.
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