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When a city garbage man goes to work he does not refer to his job as "Garbaging"!?
....NO, HE IS GOING TO WORK!

When a police officer going to work....he/she does not tell his golf buddy "Hey ., I'll be 'policing' on sat and sunday...but no 'policing' on monday"
.....no, he is WORKING on saturday and sunday but not WORKING on monday!!!

And when a doctor goes to work he/she does not say;
"have a great day babes....WHOA....I'm late or 'Doctoring'!!!!!"
.....NO, HE IS LATE FOR WORK!!!!

When I show up on a cold damp ramp @ 4 am in the middle of the mofo winter to haul rubber dog shyte up and down the Lake Superior coast....I'M PHAQUING WORKING!!!!
So, unless I'm going on a month long backpack vacation trip overseas....THEN THAT'S WHEN I'LL BE FLYING!

For some reason, flight crews LOVE to announce to everyone around them that they're the "special chosen ones"...

"we don't work....we unfold our God kissed angel wings and fly to mysterious destinations beyond the scope and realm of all your tiny imaginations"

Why must flight crews refer to "going to work" as "flying" when no other profession refers to this daily routine as if it was the 11th Commandment that just now rolled down the hill?

People, perhaps in the 50's 60's and maybe the 70's being part of a flight crew and flying around the world was a glamorous job, but please don't confuse with what it is today...

Now, if you'll excuse me...I gotta go to work. :wink:
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wow...chill out dude. Someone must be "piloting" too much.
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IAB: Maybe because not everybody's job is JUST flying??
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I am Birddog wrote: Why must flight crews refer to "going to work" as "flying" when no other profession refers to this daily routine as if it was the 11th Commandment that just now rolled down the hill?


Perhaps......to the people who aren't blessed with an inside look at the daily rigours of life as a freight pilot, there still is something mysterious and, well, 'cool' about controlling a big piece of human achievement (the engineering that goes into aircraft) through the skies. Or perhaps it is because pilots feel that they spent so much money and time and effort to get a seat, but feel under appreciated, that they want to milk a little bit of mystique out of their epaulets.
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Birddog.. I'm with ya and I'm not..

I try and make sure people are damn aware that its a PRIVILEDGE to go flying. One of the first things I tell any charter passengers is that it's "a great day for an airplane ride" Make them feel warm and fuzzy so they come back and don't begrudgingly pay the now higher costs (due to fuel and what have you) The general public needs to view aviation and air transportation with respect and without the typical downward view associated with high costs. Theres a goddamn reason the companies that charge 99 bucks for a ticket go under!! It can't be sustained and make MONEY. while we're WORKING. So we need to instill some positive thoughts, respect and regain the integrity this industry once held

However.. It drives me nuts that same way.. it does you I imagine. I fly on my days off when it's FUN and I go where I WANT to go in good weather. Thats flying. A medevac to igloolik at 3am after the bare min. 9hr reset.. Thats work and should be considered as work! When my old man goes to YYZ for the umpteenth time this month.. thats going to work!
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Apparently you need a less shitty job.
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Indeed IAB, a little class, eh? Just a little.
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So when Jarome Iginla goes to the rink for his game vs the Oilers, he should tell his friends "cant Joe, I'm working tonight". Doesn't quite fit right. Maybe thats one of the "exceptions".

Anyways, I dunno, I see where you're going with it, but I don't think it's a big enough deal to lose sleep over, or devote a thread on avcanada to it. My opinion though.

I've heard:

"I'm bartending"
"I'm dj'ing"
"I'm catering"
"I'm playing (pro athletes)"
"I've got surgery (doctors)"

The list goes on..

Describe your job how you'd like to. Let others do it how they like to.

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:D

Well...it looks like I just got 7 new mentors for the Avcanada 'Echo' mentor program.

Congrates boiz n guurls, you all have an excellent outlook on the industry...and you love your 'flying' job :wink: (as do I).

When can you ALL start?

(Ya didn't think that I was just a pretty face, did ya!?) :smt118

I appreciate the replies, this post was initially made in jest. An interesting turn of this post that I did not anticipate. 8)

I have found if you take yourself too seriously, other groups within this community are going to laugh at ya and not respect you. It's bad enough we (flight crews) are considered the "Peacocks" of the industry...we don't have to fuel that misconception of many good people by a few bad cocky apples.

Although this job is serious, I find I get more respect from people within and outside of the industry if I humble myself to them. There are some pilots that I just want to choke the epauletts off of them for being so phaquing cocky and sometimes just plain rude to others.

If I were incharge of the course outline @ one of these aviation college programs, there would be a class dedicated on industry edicate..and if you failed to grasp the concept of not being an idiot, you couldnt get your diploma.

airs
A peculiar or characteristic impression;
An affected, often haughty pose; affectation.
affected manners intended to impress others
"don't put on airs with me"


Pardon the pun...however the time for having "airs" is over. But the time to realize the fragility of this industry and how ANYONE is threatened and sometimes subjected and fall off of their perch is a very real life reality. Our friends @ Zoom are the very recent ones to understand this.

Take pride in your career...but don't look down at people that also take pride in their chosen careers is all I am saying here folks. Nothing more, nothing less.

In conclusion, I model my professional attitude after a professional car driver in the Forumla 1 circuit. Mr. Ayrton Senna was once at a cocktail party and the wife of an important man tried to lightly riducule Mr. Senna about his job.

"You're just going round and round in circles...I don't see why you should get paid an exorbant amount of money for that!...ppphht!"

Mr. Senna turned to her and with perfect tone and precise wording, and due respect explained the details in laywoman's terms the intricacies of the sport and the history as well as regarding the significance of F1 has had on combustion engine technology that employs many of the worlds smarter minds and the technical break throughs from this sport and engineering of these engines, are applied to such common things as airtravel and safety of everyday passenger cars.

She ended up being a big supporter of the sport. Her name was Mila Mulroney.

If you don't believe the level of class any professional can attain...click on my Jackie Stewart link below. Like I said, I model my professional career edicate after this man.



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endless wrote:Apparently you need a less shitty job.
...as do you. :D

Good things come to those who wait.
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.........................eh? :?







I'm slightly confused and going to bed :rolleyes:
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clunckdriver wrote:I know of no other job which seems to generate so much hostility from those stuck in booring secure jobs...
Except, of course, for lawyers - who happen to be pilots... :mrgreen:
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When you were six years old, did you look up at the sky and say "I want to work!" ?
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I have to wonder what a prostitute wud say on her/his way to work.

IAB, just dont talk like Jackie Stewart !
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Changes in Latitudes wrote:When you were six years old, did you look up at the sky and say "I want to work!" ?
Actually it was "I want that guys job!"
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but feel under appreciated, that they want to milk a little bit of mystique out of their epaulets.
Does wearing epaulets improve your flying skills?
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Today I am wheeling, tomorrow I am healing. You figure it out.
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Hi Birddog,

maybe you've forgotten why you started flying in the first place??

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up, up the long delirious, burning blue,
I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or even eagle flew -
And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high untresspassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand and touched the face of God.

Pilot Officer Gillespie Magee
No 412 squadron, RCAF
Killed 11 December 1941

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clunckdriver wrote:On the flip side of this I reached the point when if asked at a social function what I did for a living I would simply say "transportation" or somthing non specific, this way I avoided listning to some nerds acount of how the last time he/she flew they only just dodged death, the meal was cold and pilots all are overpayed! I know of no other job which seems to generate so much hostility from those stuck in booring secure jobs, which they have chosen to spend their lives in just because they are secure and booring, if they also suffer from a glamorised view of our jobs, well Im not going to try to change that for them!
Ah haha!! :lol:

How many time has that scenario happened to most? That was brilliantly put.

I bank on the fact that people just luuuuve to talk about themselves so I steer the conversation like Morpheus would steer his ship, the Nebuchadnezzar out of potential danger;

"So what is it you do? A (insert job)!?!? REALLY...man that's a lot of hard work I bet?"

And then let the magic happen. To break boredom in my head, I try to find what their favorite 'buzz' word is and then count on how many times they use it.

My fav pretentious cocktail party buzz words these days are;

Dot-bomb
New economy
Synergy
Mindshare
Paradigm shift
Sync-up
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kinda unrelated here, but why are Doctors the only ones with their own tick box next to title on the forms as far as jobs.. no one else introduces themselves as "Teacher Jones" or "Electrician Kelsey"... but for some reason "Doctor Harrison" is OK.
Just curious if that bugs you.
"Pilot water wings" ha :lol: ha - no, i can't do it... i could never be a doctor....
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Wow you're going out for cocktails with a different crowd than me.

Although I love my job. I find it easy yet challenging at times. Great hours. Lets me see the world. Really couldn't picture myself doing anything else. I do still find myself saying that I'm going to work alot of the time.

Flying isn't my life, it's just a very big part of it. It's the having to do it and being there at a certain time and the duties that go along with it that "officially" make it work.

I still am though that dick that you will hear saying "It's better than working for a living" because compared to jobs that I worked while putting myself though school and after when I couldn't find work and even once I did find it (the full time flying job that I had paid half of what my part time job made me) flying really isn't work.
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water wings wrote: Just curious if that bugs you.
"Pilot water wings" ha :lol: ha - no, i can't do it... i could never be a doctor....
nah...I have a friend that calls himself "The King"...people can call themselves anything they want...
Now Doctor Waterwings has a nice ring to it...as long as you don't get a P.H.D. :wink:
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HAHA, Birddog! That was the best rant I've seen on Avcanada. Thank you for making me shoot coffee out my nose from laughter . . . not a bad way to start my work day :)
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This is one hell of a dumb thread. :roll:
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This is one hell of a dumb thread. :roll:
It is perfect for the audience though.
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Yeah! Me think thread good! :dumbbig:
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