Verifier

[TopperHarley]

Just a quick quesiton about the new licensing stuff and the photo I need to get verified...

For a passport, the verifier must have known you for at least 2 years. However, according to the new booklet application form, it seems to indicate that the person doesnt have to have known you for 2 years as long as they provide some sort of supporting document (passport, drivers lic, etc). Is this correct? Can I get my roomate who is a flight attendant who has only known me for 5 months to verify it? The application also asks for a "license/delegation number" from the supporter. Can I leave this blank if its not applicable?

Thanks in advance for clearing up any confusion,

[chipmunk]

http://www.tc.gc.ca/civilaviation/gener ... rifies.htm
http://www.pptc.gc.ca/cdn/section2.aspx?lang=eng

Anyone who can verify a passport application works - if they are NOT option 1 or 2 on the first link (someone designated by MOT or a TC employee) they have to know you for 2 years, hold a passport, and all the other stuff on the 2nd link, so your roommate would not work.

[TopperHarley]

Got off the phone with TC and they answered my question...

Yes, my roomate will work, despite her not knowing me for 2 years. The supporting documents, however, are MINE and not from the verifier. The verifier's job is to look at my passport and make sure the serial number and expiry date are good and agree with what I have on the application. In other words, you DONT write in the verifier's passport number/drivers license, etc. I was about to make a big mistake!

Also, dont forget to have the verifier sign the back of your photo and print "I certify this to be a true likeness of.... signature) with the date and address of the photo studio.

[chipmunk]

I went and did some digging too to clarify it a little bit more, since the part about what you said about your roommate NOT having to provide her passport number didn't make sense.

The verifier can either:

1) know the applicant for 2 years

OR

2) look at your passport, DL and provide that info.

I totally messed up this post, hence the edit - sorry Chris!

[TopperHarley]

I guess it's just less restrictive compared to the passport, which makes sense. For a passport, the verifier must have known you for at least 2 years. For the aviation document, they don't have to, but then they must verify your passport or drivers license to confirm the information you are giving TC is true. If the person has known you or works for TC, then they dont have to verify your passport in that case.

[TopperHarley]

I went and did some digging too to clarify it a little bit more, since the part about what you said about your roommate NOT having to provide her passport number didn't make sense.

The verifier can either:

1) know the applicant for 2 years

OR

2) hold government issued ID, in which case the verifier must provide the information of that supporting document (Passport number, Driver's License number, etc.)

So, according the person I just spoke with at TC, Chris, your roommate, who has NOT known you for more than 2 years, will have to provide her passport or DL #, otherwise, since the box that says "I have known the applicant for more than 2 years" isn't ticked, your application WILL be rejected.

That's what I thought, but that is NOT the case. If you read the second page (the information part) of the application, it states:

"if the applicant has not known the verifier for at least 2 years, the APPLICANT should be prepared to provide the VERIFIER with supporting documents to attest to the applicants identitdy. THe following are examples of supporting documents...."

It is not HER passport or DL, but MINE. She had to verify the information I put was correct. She looked at my passport number and expiry date to make sure it agreed with what was on the application. This is also what the lady at TC told me when I spoke to her.

[TopperHarley]

Oops, I guess we were posting at the same time

[chipmunk]

Maybe we should delete this thread before I confuse anyone else!

[Dash-Ate]

Now ANYONE can vouch for you. That means Terrorist A can now vouch for Terrorist B!

This is Harper's brilliant plan to keep us safe.

[Louis]

I had someone else act as verifier to be safe, but I don't recall seeing anywhere that I couldn't have "verified" myself as I have, like most pilots, a valid passport... Someone please prove me wrong?

Louis

Edit: Chipmunk, it's my understanding too. Yet I find it odd that there's not even a hint towards this on such a government form, as I would "qualify" as a verifier for a passport. Plus a few posters here have delegations of authority from TC and could "qualify" that way too.

[chipmunk]

You can't verify your OWN identity.

You have to find someone off the street who will look at your passport and drivers license, and attest to the fact that you are indeed you. Then you need to put the number of the document they looked at on to your application for your aviation document and send it off.

OR - find someone who has known you for 2 years, then you can forgo the identity check.

OR - find someone at TC with the "authority."

[BW 16]

So if my verifier has known me for more than 2 years, what do I put in the License or Delegation number section?

[TopperHarley]

So if my verifier has known me for more than 2 years, what do I put in the License or Delegation number section?

Nothing, leave it blank. If its not applicable, dont write anything in.

[floatingbeaver]

Ok so if your verifier has known you for more than two years do you still need to put your drivers license and passport # in? This should not be so complicated but is any of Transports paperwork easy to understand!

[chipmunk]

Ok so if your verifier has known you for more than two years do you still need to put your drivers license and passport # in? This should not be so complicated but is any of Transports paperwork easy to understand!

No.
If the verifier has checked the box that says "I have known the applicant for 2 years" then they do not need to check your DL or Passport, and therefore don't need to include the number.