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Europe via YHZ on a 737-700? Eek. Not any further than the UK or Ireland but even then... that long in a budget config??

I thought AC could look at SNN-YYT as a stopover buster allowing a 767 or 330 to bypass the stopover requirement but YHZ is a lot further still!

Europe via YHZ on a 737-700? Eek. Not any further than the UK or Ireland but even then... that long in a budget config??

I thought AC could look at SNN-YYT as a stopover buster allowing a 767 or 330 to bypass the stopover requirement but YHZ is a lot further still!

Pilots are being ETOPS trained in groundschool and sim now. The ETOPS is also being accelerated by TC because we have a lot of people in every department with previous ETOPS experience. However I've still heard with everything moving faster, we're still not going to have ETOPS until fall and it may not even be 180 minutes by then.

While we don't have ovens, we have taken care of any food issues. If you want a hot meal, you can pay alot more money and get your way coddled to an overseas destination. All our charters are in the 4-6 hour flight range, and I've never heard any complaints either... what's a few more hours?

This is going to open a whole can of worms when passengers realize that they have to bring their own lunches from home. You are only allowed to bring two pieces of carry on, so I guess it will be a purse/laptop/bag of gifts and a cooler full of tuna sandwiches. Imagine being a security officer seeing someone's lunch pass through the x-ray machine. What if Joe Security decides that your lunch is a threat to air safety and confiscates your din-din? I'd sooner pay the extra couple of hundred bucks, let they guys with alot more trans-atlantic experience fly the trip and be "coddled" over the pond with not only one, but likely two or three hot meals. Call me nuts, but I thought thats what air travel was about. They don't serve meals on Greyhound either, but the last time I checked, you still can't drive to London from Canada.

I hate to break it to you, but I highly doubt that a sandwich made at 6 am and a soggy pasta salad in a 2" x 3" container is going to hold someone over for an 8 hour flight. The pretzels may help though. However, if your customers are satisfied with that, why change anything? Point noted with regard to crew experience.

One other thing. I thought the business plan was to have low fares and good service (which is still 100% true) and slow, controlled expansion. Next thing I know, your going to Hawaii and next thing is Europe. That doesn't sound like the original plan. Why the big change? Southwest and Jetblue don't do that. Don't you think you need bigger planes to compete on these types of routes?

Did the first one 6 months ago same routing as above and the last one over new years.

YHZ to Heathrow is only about 5hrs, about the same as our YHZ direct YYC, no problem in an NG. I did CUN to YXE awhile ago and it was 6hrs.

The buy on board is a big hit, don't see why it won't going across the pond. Plus we have 32" seat pitch with LiveTV