Yankie Licence

[tincanflyer]

How do I go about getting a A&P Licence?
I currently have a Canadian Licence- M1 & M2 and have 15 years experiences.
Any info- website, phone numbers, etc would be great......thanks!

[kilpicki]

can you still find the boxes of cracker jack carmel popcorn? A&P inside.

Just kidding. A few yrs back you had to go to a local FAA office with your documents and apply, no problem with a CAD M1,M2 and proof of courses training etc.
They then gave you approval to write and do the practical. You can do the exams via computer in Canada at an approved location, not exactly sure who does it in each city, About 700 dollars or so.
Then you had to go to the US and the approved examiner who is approvedby the FAA office you visit. For example a small AMO who will put you to work for the day doing tasks or maybe jus a sit down chin wag, each is different. You lay some cash in the guys hand, 3 or 4 blls or whatever and your practical is signed off.
Or you can go to one of the advertised schools who guarantee a licence in 4 days and sit their cram course and write their exam. I think these schools is where the A&P gets its bad rep.

[mag check]

I think the couple of day schools are the way to go, 700 all in, and they do everything in house. I had planned on doing this 3 years ago, but didn't. The schools I talked to, mostly in texas, said they have never had a problem with any Canadian or Brit breezing their way through. They did say they had a bit of a problem with their "local" guys

[qa guy]

I contacted a guy at the FAA in Buffalo about two years ago and he said I had to be working in the U.S. I dont know how other Canadians seem to get them.

[qa guy]

Or you can go to one of the advertised schools who guarantee a licence in 4 days and sit their cram course and write their exam. I think these schools is where the A&P gets its bad rep.[/quote]

This is the reason A&P's in the States are making $14/hr! This kinda bullshit needs to stop! Makes my blood boil like an overcharged battery. We cannot allow AME licensing to become as easy as getting a library card.
I'm going to pour a stiff Jack & Coke now!

[gulfstreamengineer]

I recently spoke to the FAA Office in Detroit, they said you need to give them your record of training ie license & endorsements (MOT will supply all that) they also wanted a letter from your employer stating WHY you needed an A&P (in our case one of our jets is N registered). When THEY approve you, then you can go to the schools and get the course. We were looking at Bakers in Nashville, its a 2 week course but when your finished you leave there with the temp A&P in your hand. Course, testing & practical are all done right there.

Not exactly cracker jack box or library card easy anymore. But still easier than when I got my AME license.

[Bones]

I'm a licensed A.M.E. in Canada here and I just finished my A&P yesterday.
It's not as easy as it used to be (from what I've gathered from talking to guys that did it a while back) , but it's not very difficult either.
I don't think it's necessary to go to one of those "guaranteed" courses, they're a little expensive (I did check in to them), time consuming (a week?) and really not necessary.

The gist is: 3 written (general (60 q's), airframe (100), powerplant (100)) and Oral, and then a Practical exam. Contrary to what they tell you here, the Oral and Practical may/probably will take a day each.

There's no reason that you shouldn't be able to slam dunk this thing with a little review after what you went through to get the A.M.E. license. I'm saying this not to make myself seem particularly smart or special, but because I am THAT AVERAGE! I reviewed for 5 days.

Recommended study material: those Jeppesen "study guides", the ones with the questions in them. There's an ASA computer program that I bought in the US the night before my written exams that had some updated questions in it that I found very helpful as well. The oral exam consisted mostly of these questions too, and they'll ask you at least 4 questions out of EVERY CHAPTER. <- Seriously, it takes a day.

I won't post phone #'s etc here, but feel free to PM me with any questions and I'll tell you how/where/with who I did it, and why.

I'd recommend posting here that you PM'd me because I don't login often.

The A&P is a very useful license to have with your AME, it opens up all of NorthAm to you and, really, the whole world. There's "N" numbered aircraft EVERYWHERE. 3 years from now I think I'll get that IA they have as well.

Hope this helps a bit
T

[qa guy]

I thought that an A&P license does not give you any privelleges that are not already covered under an AME license? If someone could please clarify this. At my work we sign off maintenace on privately registered N aircraft. (tire change) We do not sign off annuals though. If an N aircraft was commercial and needed a tire change, would you need an A&P to sign it off? Would you need IA? Is an IA rating only to sign off annuals/phase inspections?

[Bones]

I'll tell you what I know offhand, the rest should be available in the FARS.
You CAN sign off work, excluding major repairs/alterations on an N numbered a/c with a valid AME if the aircraft is physically IN Canada. If you want to exercise those privileges in the US or elsewhere in the world, you need an A&P/IA. In my case, I have an opportunity to do some traveling chasing an N number around the globe, so that's why I got an A&P.

If I'm not mistaken, tire changes are considered "preventative maintenance" , which is similar to our "elementary maintenance" and they can be done by the aircraft owner/pilot.

A&P's can sign out 100 Hrs, but not annuals or major repairs/alterations. The definitions of those are in the FARS.
I'm not not sure on any differentiating between commercial/private aircraft, I don't recall it saying much about that, I'll have to look that stuff up.

I'm still learning the regulatory stuff, needless to say it was kind of a weak point for me on the exams I took.
Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of the above.