Flight diverted from YHZ due turbulence-coooooool

[raven54]

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2 ... c1124.html

[Embraer190]

The weather is not Air Canada's fault.

[C-FABH]

This is a journalistic masterpiece right here folks.

Adverse Weather? Check
Holiday Rush? Check
Delays? Check
Air Canada? STOP THE BLOODY PRESSES THIS IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE!

[iflyforpie]

Wouldn't have happened on West Jet!

[E-Flyer]

Since then, Ford said he'd been talking to people in Nova Scotia near the airport who contradicted the information provided by Air Canada.

Like people know what they're talking about when it comes weather... some pilot's don't even know what they're talking about, and now we're using the general public as a resource... Tasty

So I am reading between the lines here is that ACA chose to not fly you cause they hate your guts and are actually in this industry to piss you off rather than making money?

Seriously... grow up ... here's the problem, people want more all the time. It was that time where the wright brothers would spank each other for the secret of learning how to put an object in the air... now when we're 35 000 feet up in the skies, we're still complaining and want planes that can fly through any kind of weather. By we I mean the general public.

These are the kinds of PAX who should travel with donkey's and camel's. Then they can appreciate the science of flight and how the decision to not go flying is typically the sign of a good pilot with good PDM skills.

[Proline]

It sounds like another Ontario boy stuck flying on the east coast, the other flights did get in......it's not the first time it won't be the last.

I Second westjet

[pilotbzh]

Halifax was 1/2 miles and vv200, not that bad, but CFRI .25 and winds gusting at 55knts, wind at 3000ft over 100knts. 2 pax with light injuries on the bus that reported severe turbulence.... Huricane force wind with snow and ice, another day to avoid the east coast.....It would have made the news too if they had curreled down the runway and couldn't stop. Good decision from the crew, and good info to us, we followed his example and turned around (first time ever I don't even try the aproach).

[Old fella]

".....2 pax with light injuries on the bus that reported severe turbulence."

Probably talking to their lawyers already, who might have even met them at the gate on arrival!!

[flyincanuck]

It sounds like another Ontario boy stuck flying on the east coast

I'd say it sounds like some Ontario passengers got a taste of East Coast wx.

Funny how a similar storm just over a week ago forced a half-dozen planes to make their final stop at CFB Grennwood, an no one said a peep. I'd take YOW over Greenwood, as a passenger.

WJ was making gate announcements that their flights were delayed as maintenance engineers were busy checking over the plane to ensure it didn't encounter any damage due to turbulence on the approach.

[yycflyguy]

WJ was making gate announcements that their flights were delayed as maintenance engineers were busy checking over the plane to ensure it didn't encounter any damage due to turbulence on the approach.

Sounds like flap overspeed in the turbulence... or a hard landing. That's the price you pay when you elect to continue in mod-severe turb on approach.

[Driving Rain]

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2 ... c1124.html

An Air Canada plane dropped and rocked violently for half an hour as Halifax-bound passengers screamed, cried, vomited and held on for dear life on Sunday night, but that was just the start of their ordeal.

Sounds like the opening lines of a Readers Digest piece.

"We felt like abandoned kids here," said Simon. "We went through a lot on that flight .… Now, here we are after 2 o' clock [p.m.], and he still can't assure us that there's a plane for us."

Or maybe the liner notes to a novel

That flight was "the worst experience of my life," she said.
"There was no warning. We just kind of dropped all of a sudden and didn't stop dropping

Maybe a career as a video game liner note guy

"I was crying and I did not like it," Summer added.

PG 13

They say Porter [Airlines] and WestJet are landing their planes no problem, so we don't know who to believe."

Wow I never thought the story would end this way.

Have a great Christmas everyone.

[xsbank]

Are you seriously stating on an aviation forum that severe turbulence is no big deal? So, what DOES get your attention?

[Driving Rain]

Are you seriously stating on an aviation forum that severe turbulence is no big deal? So, what DOES get your attention?

Of course it's a big deal. Are you seriously stating on an aviation forum that reporting like this helps.

[Tim]

well it is an aviation website created to discuss aviation

[yycflyguy]

well it is an aviation website created to discuss aviation

I thought it was a place to meet chicks.

[hazatude]

well it is an aviation website created to discuss aviation

I thought it was a place to meet chicks.

That's the reason I'm here...

[bob sacamano]

well it is an aviation website created to discuss aviation

I thought it was a place to meet chicks.

I'm afraid the majority here are chicks with d!cks.

[E-Flyer]

well it is an aviation website created to discuss aviation

I thought it was a place to meet chicks.

I'm afraid the majority here are chicks with d!cks.

You're wrong, if they had dicks, and balls, they would post under their name.

[yycflyguy]

well it is an aviation website created to discuss aviation

I thought it was a place to meet chicks.

I'm afraid the majority here are chicks with d!cks.

Now I am confused AND turned off.

Hey Haza, In the spirit of Christmas how about you share some for the rest of us mere mortals... tis better to give than receive.

[hazatude]

Now I am confused AND turned off.

Hey Haza, In the spirit of Christmas how about you share some for the rest of us mere mortals... tis better to give than receive.

What are you asking me to give you?

[C-FABH]

Are you seriously stating on an aviation forum that severe turbulence is no big deal? So, what DOES get your attention?

It wasn't severe. Everyone in the air (not pax, but, flight crews/ATC...) had reported it as moderate.

[yycflyguy]

Are you seriously stating on an aviation forum that severe turbulence is no big deal? So, what DOES get your attention?


It wasn't severe. Everyone in the air (not pax, but, flight crews/ATC...) had reported it as moderate.

How does ATC determine if there is moderate or severe turbulence? Through PIREPS. Turbulence is dynamic (it moves in 4 dimensions) so one man's moderate at one place may be another man's severe on the same track at the same altitude 2 minutes later. If the crew reported it as severe, it was severe. Final. Go somewhere else and do it again later. What is the big friggin deal.

[stmymdy]

Turbulence is dynamic (it moves in 4 dimensions)

I didn't realize that we had 4 dimensions..unless of course you are implying that
turbulence moves forward AND BACKWARDS through time?

[swordfish]

Trying to land with the RFI at 25 is rather questionable - if that was correct information. I suppose AC has their own limits in the AFM and SOP (or whatever it is called in the A320), but at 25, you can hardly taxi or turn downwind. The Airbus also has a thing called "GS-mini" which is an increment to Vref for gusty conditions. You float forever in ground effect if you don't retard earlier than the call.

With 100 kt at 3000', and 55 on the ground, that's a gradient of 45 kt in 3000 ft. ....errr, hello...? Turbulence is inevitable, not to mention the mechanical turbulence associated with the surface wind (I've never been to YHX)

[Slappy the Squirrel]

So what I've learned from this forum is that next time I run into severe turbulence and other aircraft report it as moderate and the RFI/winds are messed I should continue with the approach to land because it's Christmas time and I don't want other pilots/passengers to think I'm a wuss.

Thank god for avcanada, as an aspiring young pilot I've learned an important lesson today...

Sorry for the sarcasm guys, everyone have a safe and merry Christmas!