Pix From a Swamper - Remembering Craig Chenell

kingeddie · Post by **kingeddie** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:53 am

Woodland Caribou

kingeddie · Post by **kingeddie** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:04 am

Helitorch/NVG Tanker/ On the rocks

kingeddie · Post by **kingeddie** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:30 am

A few more from the old CD pile

kingeddie · Post by **kingeddie** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:35 am

Happy New year

kingeddie · Post by **kingeddie** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:19 pm

Heli Pics

1000 HP · Post by **1000 HP** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:11 pm

Cree Lake early in 2008

mag check · Post by **mag check** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:17 am

Cool pics, But I thought that to drop anything out of an aircraft, you need to wear a chute?
I could be wrong, as I'm sure that the MNR would follow all the regs

C-GGGQ · Post by **C-GGGQ** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:38 am

I believe the reg only states that you cannot drop anything if it poses a threat to persons or property. I don't remember anything about wearing a chute.

CLguy · Post by **CLguy** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:09 am

No such regulation. Not sure where you dug that up from!! MNR has been dropping stuff from airplanes and helicopters for almost 80 years and don't own any parachutes.

Johnny#5 · Post by **Johnny#5** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:35 pm

Just from a picture, how do you tell the difference between a 215T and a 415?

mag check · Post by **mag check** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:00 pm

CLguy wrote:No such regulation. Not sure where you dug that up from!! MNR has been dropping stuff from airplanes and helicopters for almost 80 years and don't own any parachutes.

Well, I know that dropping skydivers the pilot needs a chute, and I'm pretty sure that somewhere in the regs it says that any air drop needs one. I'll look into it.

mag check · Post by **mag check** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:21 pm

mag check wrote:
CLguy wrote:No such regulation. Not sure where you dug that up from!! MNR has been dropping stuff from airplanes and helicopters for almost 80 years and don't own any parachutes.
Well, I know that dropping skydivers the pilot needs a chute, and I'm pretty sure that somewhere in the regs it says that any air drop needs one. I'll look into it.

Hmmm, guess I'm wrong, can't find it. All I can find is that you can't create a "hazard" to anyone or thing. Not too sure how to drop something from an aircraft without creating a hazard, but at least you don't need a chute

Bushav8er · Post by **Bushav8er** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:46 pm

Dropping of Objects

602.23 No person shall create a hazard to persons or property on the surface by dropping an object from an aircraft in flight.

C-GGGQ · Post by **C-GGGQ** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:53 pm

mag check wrote: Well, I know that dropping skydivers the pilot needs a chute, and I'm pretty sure that somewhere in the regs it says that any air drop needs one. I'll look into it.

Hmmm, guess I'm wrong, can't find it. All I can find is that you can't create a "hazard" to anyone or thing. Not too sure how to drop something from an aircraft without creating a hazard, but at least you don't need a chute

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yeah the skydive pilot i was with didn't wear one. and as long as you aren't aiming at a person or property (building) you aren't posing a hazard. (see amatuer flower bombing competetions)

just curious · Post by **just curious** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:16 pm

Took me a while to figure out what you were talking about, but I'm pretty sure that the pic of the helo with the bag going out the door would have been taken from the boat maybe 6 feet below. A chute isn't going to help.

mag check · Post by **mag check** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:30 pm

Sorry for the minor de-rail, on with the pics

kingeddie · Post by **kingeddie** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:34 pm

There are regs you are correct .. There are also exemptions in the form of commercial ops specs .. The picture is of fire hose being free dropped to fire crews on the ground that are building line around a fire front, hose lays can be miles long through areas where there are no landing areas and if the crews carried the hose from the landing area the fire would likely have burned over the area we are trying to contain . There also ops specs we use for entering or exiting an aircraft while it is in flight (no parachute) . For fire fighting , preservation of human life and operating under authourity of a police agency there are many exemptions . Water bucketing , water bombing and dropping of supplies are only a few..

Eddie

CLguy · Post by **CLguy** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:38 pm

Johnny the only way is if the waterdoors are in the picture. The 215T has the old system which is 2 larger drop doors on the bottom of the hull and the 415 has 4 smaller doors. You can also tell if the picture is of the cockpit. The 415 is glass and the 215T has the older style instruments.

Bush Man · Post by **Bush Man** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:49 pm

On with the pics ......

sky's the limit · Post by **sky's the limit** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:55 pm

On with the pix.

Non-Canadian bush.... But I think it qualifies.

Just another canuck · Post by **Just another canuck** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:36 pm

Not Canadian bush either.... but still good.

Rudder Bug · Post by **Rudder Bug** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:37 am

Canuck

This looks like and Islander dash, an Islander nose and an Islander airstrip! Where was that???

Just another canuck · Post by **Just another canuck** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:29 am

Rudder Bug wrote:Canuck

This looks like and Islander dash, an Islander nose and an Islander airstrip! Where was that???

That is a Caravan my friend.... and it's in a place called Sinak in West Papua, Indonesia. Runway is at 7000' with a 12% incline. You usually land with close to full power cause of the altitude... and sink you get off that little bump at then end of the runway. Doesn't look like much but it sure has some effect.

Cheers.

JAC

tiny · Post by **tiny** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:32 am

JAC, who are you flying for in Papua?

Tiny

Rudder Bug · Post by **Rudder Bug** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:35 am

I should have look a little better before posting. BN-2's usually don't have a prop spinning up front!

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