AC Documents

[moon duster]

Remember how back in the day they used to use CP RAIL as a way or remembering the documents needed on board.

Is there a new updated acronym for the new list?


Just wondering. It came up the other day.

Thanks all

[Grey_Wolf]

AROW JILI is the latest one I believe being taught at the training level

A - Certificate of Airworthiness
R - Certificate of Registration
O - Operator's Handbook (POH, AFM, etc ...)
W - Weight & Balance

J - Journey Log
I - Insurance
L - Licenses (Crew's License, Medical, Radio Op's Certificate)
I - Intercept Orders

[200hr Wonder]

Just a heads up as of recently the intercept orders are no longer required.

[just curious]

In the reference publications that a VFR pilot would probably want to carry, (VFR charts, and a CFS), you will find the intercept orders there.

[yzfer]

My flight instructor taught me ARROWILLIC:

A-Cert. of airworthiness
R-Cert. of registration
R-Radio license
O-Operators Handbook
W-Weight & balance
I-insurance
L-journey log
L-licenses
I-Interect orders (as mentioned earlier, not required and are found in current publications)
C-Current publications (eg. CFS)

This worked for me, but to each his own.

[200hr Wonder]

In the reference publications that a VFR pilot would probably want to carry, (VFR charts, and a CFS), you will find the intercept orders there.

True however they are not required to be carried under Cars.

[C-GGGQ]

Arrowjil seems to be the Ontario standard.

CPRAIL was what I was taught on the east coast.

[Freddy_Francis]

A- CofA
R- Registration
I- Insurance
L- License's -> medical -> radio certificate
L- Logs (Journey log)
O- POH -> WT&Balance included as the aircraft has to be flown according to the POH

[200hr Wonder]

A- CofA
R- Registration
I- Insurance
L- License's -> medical -> radio certificate
L- Logs (Journey log)
O- POH -> WT&Balance included as the aircraft has to be flown according to the POH

Freddy don't forget that there are 2 peaces to the W&B 1. The actual form giving things like the basic empty weight for the plane, the arm and so forth. and 2. Proof that the aircraft is with in W&B limits per the POH. 2. Falls under O, add the W for 1 as it is a very important and separate document.

[Tim]

PIL JAR

Poh
Insurance
License/medical
Journey log
c of A
c of R

with the W&B charts in the POH and the a/c numbers in the JL

[Freddy_Francis]

Whatever works

[200hr Wonder]

PIL JAR

Poh
Insurance
License/medical
Journey log
c of A
c of R

with the W&B charts in the POH and the a/c numbers in the JL

All aircraft I have ever flown have had a separate peace of paper with the W&B report. Sure the OEW and Arm are usually on the JL however, you need the full W&B report to be legal.

[Hedley]

Don't need to carry the journey log if you don't intend
to do a full stop landing at a different airport - see
CAR 605.95(2)(a).

I've been told by Transport in the past that that proof if
insurance only has to be carried on board for private
aircraft, because there is an OC in force for commercial.
Personally, I would carry it anyways, as per CAR 606.02(9)

Everyone here says that you don't need the interception
procedures. Dumb question: how do you comply with
CAR 602.144(4), unless you can claim to have memorized
them?! Does everyone here think they don't have to
comply with CAR 602.144?

Don't forget that you MUST carry a watch as per
CAR 602.60(1)(f) unless your aircraft has a certified
"timepiece" installed - I've been told it's illegal to velcro
a Casio to the dashboard, but personally I'd take that
one to the Tribunal.

You don't need to carry any charts or pubs during
day VFR flight - see CAR 602.60(1)(b) - but for
night, VFR-OTT, IFR flight they must be CURRENT.
This (current pubs at night) is a frequently contravened
regulation.

I know of no regulation that requires you to carry on
board a filled-out weight and balance. However you
are required by CAR 605.03(1)(b) to operate the
aircraft withing the conditions of the C of A which
includes being within the legal W&B. In the past, I
have been told by Transport that they like to see
the latest W&B amendment numbers in the journey
log.

[. .]

J - journey log
A - C of A
I - proof of insurance
L - Pilot License (apparently you no longer need to carry your radio license on you)
O - p O h
R - C of R

Weight and balance info doesn't legally need to be with you anymore.


This was correct as of a few years ago. Seems that 2 decade old acronyms still prevail which have no grounds behind them. I'm not gonna waste the time to look into Hedley's intercept order CAR. Perhaps it's right, perhaps it's wrong. Do your own due diligence i guess.

[C-GGGQ]

Interception Signals, Interception of Aircraft and Instructions to Land

602.144 (1) No person shall give an interception signal or an instruction to land except

(a) a peace officer, an officer of a police authority or an officer of the Canadian Forces acting within the scope of their duties; or

(b) a person authorized to do so by the Minister pursuant to subsection (2).

(2) The Minister may authorize a person to give an interception signal or an instruction to land if such authorization is in the public interest and is not likely to affect aviation safety.

(3) The pilot-in-command of an aircraft who receives an instruction to land from a person referred to in subsection (1) shall, subject to any direction received from an air traffic control unit, comply with the instruction.

(4) The pilot-in-command of an intercepting aircraft and the pilot-in-command of an intercepted aircraft shall comply with the rules of interception set out in the Canada Flight Supplement.


You have to respond to the intercept orders so while no longer required to be carried you must know how to respond by either as hedley said memorizing them or having them on board

[Invertago]

If you get intercepted, your mission is a failure!

[Hedley]

I'm not gonna waste the time to look into Hedley's intercept order CAR

It's a bit embarrassing (and bizarre) when even experienced pilots
don't know (and don't care) what they need to do, to be legal.

[trey kule]

Hedley.

Just take a look at how many posts it takes to answer the simplist of questions.

I've been told by Transport in the past that that proof if
insurance only has to be carried on board for private
aircraft, because there is an OC in force for commercial.
Personally, I would carry it anyways, as per CAR 606.02(9)

Many years ago I had a major disagreement during an audit over this issue. After threats of violations and my telling they better have their facts right, the inspector called in for clarification.. His answer to me....well you are right, but its just one piece of paper so why not carry it.

And here I write the answer. Because I dont have to and I see no need to.

Whenever transport cant regulate us, they come up with all sorts of "brownie point" reasons for us to toe the line with their thinking. And I think that is why, in many case, even experienced pilots are confused about what does and does not have to be carried in a plane.

[. .]

I'm not gonna waste the time to look into Hedley's intercept order CAR

It's a bit embarrassing (and bizarre) when even experienced pilots
don't know (and don't care) what they need to do, to be legal.

Infact I do know what is required. Everyone here is posting incorrect acronyms from the 1990's. I posted one which has been well researched and is correct. Because I don't want to waste time following your what if stuff doesn't mean I'm unaware of what's required of me. Perhaps with all your TC problems you have an increased sense of paranoia.

There is absolutely no legal requirement to carry intercept orders with you. None. You just have to be able to comply with an intercept. You make it sound as if memorizing a few very simple and for the most part intuitive lines is impossible. I'd say it's far easier to memorize those orders than it has been to get your head around all the if/than's in 705 duty regs, combined with different contractual duty limits.

[Hedley]

So in your opinion, given that few (if any) pilots even
know what documents he should have to carry on board,
it's safe to assume that all pilots in Canada have completely
memorized what each of the following different signals mean,
during an intercept:

1) flashing navigational lights at irregular intervals
2) steady landing lights
3) flashing landing lights
4) regular switching (but not flashing) lights
5) irregular flashing of all available lights



P.S. I don't have a problem with Transport. It might
be safe to surmise, from their actions, that they have
a problem with me. Literally, that is their problem, not
mine.

[iflyforpie]

Why don't you just stuff a CFS in the plane and there are your intercept orders in the back? It doesn't weigh much, or take up much space and it is full of other useful information too (just the back cover tells you how to give a position report and PIREP, a lost art these days).

It's not that big a deal to carry extra paper. We still carry the radio station licenses because they don't weigh anything and it is convenient to keep them in the aircraft.

[Hedley]

Just cut the two pages out of the back of the CFS,
staple them together, and put them in with the aircraft
C of A and C of R.

Not sure why that's so hard.

[. .]

The question here was what are the legal requirements. Not what do you think good airman ship dictates. Go on scroll back up to the top and have a peak. The original poster just wanted the acronym for the legal requirements. Your semantics about intercept orders is just a hijack. They aren't required.

[767]

ARROW JIP CM
ARROW JIP CM
ARROW JIP CM
ARROW JIP CM
ARROW JIP CM
ARROW JIP CM
ARROW JIP CM
ARROW JIP CM
ARROW JIP CM
ARROW JIP CM
ARROW JIP CM

good so far?

A CERT OF AIRWORTHINESS
R CERT OF REGISTRATION
R RADIO LICENSE
O ORDERS (INTERCEPTION)
W WEIGHT ND BALANCE
J JOURNEY LOG
I INSURANCE
P POH
C CREW LICENSE
M MEDICAL

[. .]

Nope we're not good.

Radio License isn't required to be carried with you anymore.
Intercept orders aren't required anymore.
Weight and balance info isn't required.

ARROW JIP CM
ARROW JIP CM
ARROW JIP CM
ARROW JIP CM
ARROW JIP CM
ARROW JIP CM
ARROW JIP CM
ARROW JIP CM
ARROW JIP CM
ARROW JIP CM
ARROW JIP CM

good so far?

A CERT OF AIRWORTHINESS
R CERT OF REGISTRATION
R RADIO LICENSE
O ORDERS (INTERCEPTION)
W WEIGHT ND BALANCE
J JOURNEY LOG
I INSURANCE
P POH
C CREW LICENSE
M MEDICAL