Student Permit good for...?

[swixtt]

how long is the student pilot permit valid for?

[metal]

5 Years

[swixtt]

thanks. i was worried because i didn't finish last year (i started in May) almost enough time now:) i may have been thinking of the Pstar.

[Doc]

And....your medical must be valid.

[Hedley]

This comes up every now and then.

Your student pilot permit is (medically) valid until the
date on it.

The Authorized Person who filled it out, was supposed
to have looked at your medical, and if it somehow expired
before the usual 5 years for a SPP, used that (earlier) date
instead.

However, keep in mind that when it comes time
to write (e.g.) your PPL written test, you cannot do
so unless you have a current 3 (or 1) medical - CAR
401.13(1)(a) applies. I presume this is to avoid
you having a heart attack during the test on DOT
property?

[swixtt]

hahaa... thanks guys.

i do have my permit but i couldn't read the date he put on there because my signature went over it in just the right place so i could read the year on it.

[pilotguyCANADA]

Just a question...are u in aviation as a hobby or for a potential career. If you can afford it, you should keep going and not rest on a SPP for 5 years. NOT that theres nething wrong with that it just takes a while with all the tests PPL, CPL, INRAT, ATPL etc

[brokenwing]

Just a question...are u in aviation as a hobby or for a potential career. If you can afford it, you should keep going and not rest on a SPP for 5 years. NOT that theres nething wrong with that it just takes a while with all the tests PPL, CPL, INRAT, ATPL etc

Huh? can you elaborate?

[swixtt]

Just a question...are u in aviation as a hobby or for a potential career. If you can afford it, you should keep going and not rest on a SPP for 5 years. NOT that theres nething wrong with that it just takes a while with all the tests PPL, CPL, INRAT, ATPL etc

well i'm doing this as my money and time permits but want to get it done very soon. i would like to get the night and possibly commercial rating later on too. i've waited for a long time to be able to do this and finally it's happening. i guess i'm more into this out of passion to answer your question as i'm doing this while still employed,etc. but who knows, i definitely enjoy learning all the things i've been reading about for years:)
once i have my PPL though i am a licenced pilot, no? no more need for the SPP.

[E-Flyer]

This comes up every now and then.

Your student pilot permit is (medically) valid until the
date on it.

The Authorized Person who filled it out, was supposed
to have looked at your medical, and if it somehow expired
before the usual 5 years for a SPP, used that (earlier) date
instead.

However, keep in mind that when it comes time
to write (e.g.) your PPL written test, you cannot do
so unless you have a current 3 (or 1) medical - CAR
401.13(1)(a) applies. I presume this is to avoid
you having a heart attack during the test on DOT
property?

The CFI who issued my SPP at first only put down a year. Then when I went to do my flight test, they had to issue me a new one.

[swixtt]

This comes up every now and then.

Your student pilot permit is (medically) valid until the
date on it.

The Authorized Person who filled it out, was supposed
to have looked at your medical, and if it somehow expired
before the usual 5 years for a SPP, used that (earlier) date
instead.

However, keep in mind that when it comes time
to write (e.g.) your PPL written test, you cannot do
so unless you have a current 3 (or 1) medical - CAR
401.13(1)(a) applies. I presume this is to avoid
you having a heart attack during the test on DOT
property?

The CFI who issued my SPP at first only put down a year. Then when I went to do my flight test, they had to issue me a new one.

well, ... i can't find anything about the Pstar... does one have to re-write that part after a year is up?

i thought i had read in the training manual you had up to 24months to complete.

[Shiny Side Up]

well, ... i can't find anything about the Pstar... does one have to re-write that part after a year is up?

i thought i had read in the training manual you had up to 24months to complete.

To answer after some searching of the CARs, though it is easier read within the TC AIM, so from there:

The recency requirements may be found in CAR 401.05 and in the corresponding standard, CAR 421.05. In order to exercise the privileges of your licence, you must meet the recency requirements in addition to having a valid medical certificate.

The recency requirements address three time periods; 5 years, 2 years and 6 months. If you wish to act as pilot-in-command or co-pilot of an aircraft, you must meet both the 5-year and the 2-year recency requirements. If you wish to carry passengers, you must also meet the 6-month requirement.

(a) 5-year Requirement

To meet the 5-year requirement, you must have either:

(i) flown as pilot-in-command or co-pilot within the previous 5 years; or

(ii) completed a flight review with an instructor and written and passed the PSTAR exam within the previous 12 months.

So thus if the time limit of five years has expired on your Student Pilot Permit, to go solo (and thus act as PIC) you are required to have written the PSTAR within the last 12 months.

For further details, please refer to CARs 401.05 and 421.05 which are available on the Internet at: <www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/Regserv/Affa ... htm#4212_5>

From there, assuming we're seeking the re-issue of a SPP, which one might consider another application for one we have:

(d) Knowledge

An applicant for a Student Pilot Permit shall meet the knowledge requirement as follows:

(iii) Other categories - Flight Training Units

Provide certification from the Flight Training Unit that the applicant has obtained a minimum of 90% in the written examination Student Pilot Permit or Private Pilot Licence for Foreign and Military Applicants, Air Regulations (PSTAR) on the subjects specified in subparagraph (ii) above. The PSTAR examination shall be corrected to 100% by the FTU flight or ground instructor who will ensure that the applicant reviews all weak knowledge areas.

(iv) Other categories - Transport Canada Facility

Obtain a minimum of 90% in the written examination PSTAR completed at a Transport Canada facility. The PSTAR examination shall be corrected to 100% by a computer feedback letter keyed to the study and reference guide.

Essentially your SPP is good for five years. It should be noted that it is good for five years, even if your medical is not, and still requires a current medical to remain in force. Should it expire - for whatever reason you have not upgraded it to a PPL or a Recreational Permit - you're looking at rewriting the PSTAR again.