Which is not a bad thing, I like it. Haha anyways, advice would be great! Joey
Private Flight Test
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Joey McCormick
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Private Flight Test
Well after successfully completing the Transport Canada written exam my Private Flight Test is next on the list. Any tips from anyone? I'm not so nervous for this as flying comes easy to me. The ground portion of the test is what I'm more worried about. Oh and the studying never ends Which is not a bad thing, I like it. Haha anyways, advice would be great!
Joey
Which is not a bad thing, I like it. Haha anyways, advice would be great! Joey
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Re: Private Flight Test
Relax, get a good night's sleep and hammer out the flight "check" out.
Remember, your Pre-Flight was the real test. Just don't do anything you normally wouldn't do. Good luck!
Remember, your Pre-Flight was the real test. Just don't do anything you normally wouldn't do. Good luck!
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How did you do on the exam? you were quite worried about it in other posts.Joey McCormick wrote:Well after successfully completing the Transport Canada written exam my Private Flight Test is next on the list. Any tips from anyone? I'm not so nervous for this as flying comes easy to me. The ground portion of the test is what I'm more worried about. Oh and the studying never ends
Joey
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Ok so I typed up a nice reply then went to go hit submit..and it didn't work 
and lost my post...so here goes take#2....So if you are recommended for flight test, your instructor believes you are up to standard, and the previous posters are correct...The pre flight is the big test and is generally harder then the actual flight test (Us flight instructors want to make sure your ready hence why we drill you so much!!!) ...if you can pass that just go to the real flight test and do everything the same.
KNOW THE PRIVATE PILOT FLIGHT TEST GUIDE WELL!!! I cannot stress this enough, it is the minimum to which you must perform, it outlines this, as well how you will be marked, tolerances, etc. Their is a book called "Flight Test Notes" it has a extensive section on common questions on the ground portion of the flight test, then it walks you through each exercise step by step even with graphics, and listing common errors.
On your flight test, if you think you have botched a exercise, dont let it effect the rest of your performance, forget about it and continue on with the flight test, remember you are marked exercise by exercise.
Your job is to show up prepared, relaxed, ready to go, you fly the exercises, it's the examiners job to mark you on the exercises, let the examiner do his job, if YOU think you screwed up on a maneuver real bad, the examiner may not of seen it that way & remember if you are familiar with the flight test guide- thats the standard to which the examiner is marking you on, let the examiner do the marking..and you do the flying .dont get pissed off during the flight test and let if effect the rest of the flight.
Good luck, be relaxed, do your best, keep us updated!!
mattas350
and lost my post...so here goes take#2....So if you are recommended for flight test, your instructor believes you are up to standard, and the previous posters are correct...The pre flight is the big test and is generally harder then the actual flight test (Us flight instructors want to make sure your ready hence why we drill you so much!!!) ...if you can pass that just go to the real flight test and do everything the same.KNOW THE PRIVATE PILOT FLIGHT TEST GUIDE WELL!!! I cannot stress this enough, it is the minimum to which you must perform, it outlines this, as well how you will be marked, tolerances, etc. Their is a book called "Flight Test Notes" it has a extensive section on common questions on the ground portion of the flight test, then it walks you through each exercise step by step even with graphics, and listing common errors.
On your flight test, if you think you have botched a exercise, dont let it effect the rest of your performance, forget about it and continue on with the flight test, remember you are marked exercise by exercise.
Your job is to show up prepared, relaxed, ready to go, you fly the exercises, it's the examiners job to mark you on the exercises, let the examiner do his job, if YOU think you screwed up on a maneuver real bad, the examiner may not of seen it that way & remember if you are familiar with the flight test guide- thats the standard to which the examiner is marking you on, let the examiner do the marking..and you do the flying .dont get pissed off during the flight test and let if effect the rest of the flight.
Good luck, be relaxed, do your best, keep us updated!!
mattas350
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Joey McCormick
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Re: Private Flight Test
Thanks guys, we'll keep you posted. I have already been recommended but doing another pre-flight because I haven't flown in about a month and a half because I was studying for the written. Now that that's done I shouldn't have any problems focusing on the flight test. Thanks again everyone.
Joey
Joey
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One tip I was given for the ground portion of the exam: always know where you can find the information. If the examiner asks you a question and you don't know the answer, do not try to BS your way through. Instead, tell him/her that you are unsure but also tell them where you can find the answer (in the CARs, the POH etc.). This does not mean that you shouldn't lax on your studying, because there are a lot of things you have to commit to memory (emerg. procedures for one). Good luck!
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The best thing to do is to pretend that you are "teaching" the examiner how to fly. Make sure you teach everything right. For example, when you have to demonstrate slow flight, tell him what your going to do and then do it. You dont have to give him a PGI or anything, just tell him how your going to maintain the speed, altitude, and heading!! Most important thing to remember is : "STAY AHEAD OF THE AIRPLANE".. Good luck let us know how it goes! 
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Joey McCormick
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Re: Private Flight Test
Thanks man! Doing the pre-flight today, need another recommend as it's been about a month and a half since I last flew because I was focusing on the written. Wish me luck on the pre-flight!
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Joey,
just relax, be ready(know the ppl standards) and remember what you have trained for and you will do fine. Keep the fine words of your flight instructor in mind too. Keep up the great work.
cheers
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"tseh is anyone going ta ta colley?"
just relax, be ready(know the ppl standards) and remember what you have trained for and you will do fine. Keep the fine words of your flight instructor in mind too. Keep up the great work.
cheers
PS. Ha Ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
"tseh is anyone going ta ta colley?"
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How did your pre-flight go? I've got mine coming up this Tuesday, ahh!
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buggy_boy wrote:One tip I was given for the ground portion of the exam: always know where you can find the information. If the examiner asks you a question and you don't know the answer, do not try to BS your way through. Instead, tell him/her that you are unsure but also tell them where you can find the answer (in the CARs, the POH etc.). This does not mean that you shouldn't lax on your studying, because there are a lot of things you have to commit to memory (emerg. procedures for one). Good luck!
How about you try to actually understand what it is you're doing so that you don't need to memorize it.
For example... if you have an electrical fire in the cabin, would you need to pull out your check list to know what the first step is? or would it simply make sense to turn your master off ? wouldn't it also make sense to check the source of the fire? how about extinguishing it ? how about the vents ? should they be open or closed? i'll let you figure that out !
But you see? if you understand how each system works in your airplane, you will have an easier time dealing with situations and making quick and correct decisions accordingly instead of trying to find the emergency checklist which I bet you don't even look for when you do your walk around
hehe... that's typical. I pulled a trick on my class 1 during my instructor rating where I removed the emergency checklist and hid it in my kneeboard, and when we came back on the ground and discussed why I did that... he thought it was a really good method to really nail down the essentials when you do a checklist as well as the pre-flight inspection.
In my honest opinion, there are 2 things a student should do before flying an aircraft as PIC. And by student I mean anybody who is new to an airplane.
They should thoroughly read the POH/AFM/QRH etc, and they should have a good understanding of WHY you're doing everything. Just like when you do a dead mag check after start up, you know exactly why you're doing it. Well shouldn't you know why you're doing what it tells you on an emergency checklist? And don't cheat your self, don't tell your self we're doing a dead-mag test because we're checking for a dead magneto. Tell your self, what does a dead magneto mean, how will it affect me? can I continue flying if one of the Mag's are defective? etc...
And I think one of the bigger reasons most students are scared for their flight tests are because they know that they have many weak areas and that they don't understand certain concepts; this causes them to be worried in the case where the examiner nit picks on that exact subject area. And also, since pilot's are typically "go-getters" and are supposed to be the best at what they do, all student-"PILOTS" are worried about the circle of unknowns. What if they ask me this and I look bad by not knowing the answer? etc...
I always follow this motto in my life, be the best you can be. Everybody has potential; it's your mind that allows you to firstly believe in your self, and secondly going and getting those apt skills to be a safe and smart pilot. Anybody can fly, it's those backbone essentials that separate good pilot's from bad ones. That's my opinion at least.
Good Luck Man !
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Buggy Boy wrote...
...things you have to commit to memory (emerg. procedures for one).
Where does it state that you have to memorize emergency procedures?
Although I strongly do believe the 'drill of vital actions' should be committed to memory it is not mandatory.
In fact I recommend, as most do, to use the check list when possible.
I even used a checklist for my PPL flt. test for the 'Forced Approach' segment and as such I got a 4/4 (a 5/5 in those days, not too long ago) becuase I managed the accomplish the objective and missed absolutely nothing.
Best of luck on the ride!
State facts only after 'YOU' know for sure.
...things you have to commit to memory (emerg. procedures for one).
Where does it state that you have to memorize emergency procedures?
Although I strongly do believe the 'drill of vital actions' should be committed to memory it is not mandatory.
In fact I recommend, as most do, to use the check list when possible.
I even used a checklist for my PPL flt. test for the 'Forced Approach' segment and as such I got a 4/4 (a 5/5 in those days, not too long ago) becuase I managed the accomplish the objective and missed absolutely nothing.
Best of luck on the ride!
State facts only after 'YOU' know for sure.
