Airport Identifiers
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I learned to fly at EGTE...
You can get an excellent meal in L'Escale at LFAT!
I do not see where pie and ice cream is coded in CYCW... unless it's "Complete With"?
You can get an excellent meal in L'Escale at LFAT!
I do not see where pie and ice cream is coded in CYCW... unless it's "Complete With"?
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Actually all aerodromes in Canada were only 3 letter designators untill the early seventies. Then the C was added in front to conform to, I believe, ICAO 4 letter standards.
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complete theory here, but maybe the Y means you can get a valid altimeter setting from a twr/fss/unicom guy? i think the CZ means you get wx, but are there any CZ airports that underly low-level controlled airpspace? feel free to prove me wrong 
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Good one timmy. Have you ever tried to read some topics on the pPrune board?? It's like reading an A320 FCOM.Tim wrote:so if YOU'RE too lazy to look it up why isn't it ok for ME to be too lazy to write it?
ooops, there I go again: flight crew operations manual.
Besides, if I want to go to Sydney, do I type SYD, YQY, YSSY, YSBK, YYJ, CYQY, YSRI, or CYYJ...it's just so precise using aeronautical abbreviators...
Besides, all pilots in Canada should know the identifiers for everywhere in Canada.
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Here is some info from years back.... viewtopic.php?t=5204&highlight=airport+codes
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when i come across one i dont know i look it up if i care. if i dont care i dont look it up. i dont expect anyone to hold my hand if i dont know an identifier and i dont expect them to dumb it down for me either.swordfish wrote: Besides, all pilots in Canada should know the identifiers for everywhere in Canada.
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Sometimes an airport identifier suits far to many pilots, FOOL comes to mind...must be the humidity there.
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EngineGuy, you are assuming you are communicating with people who understand using logic in their thought process.
When communicating with people who have only a myopic compressed view of the world you have to cut them some slack.
When communicating with people who have only a myopic compressed view of the world you have to cut them some slack.
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Logic would dictate that far more people in aviation would be familiar with what TC is than in or near what city, town, reserve the airport identified by CYDF is located.
I used (TC) as an abbreviation in some of my posts, should I have clarified by saying "Transport Canada" TC......
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I'm sorry, did you just use logic and TC in the same sentence? What's going on here?
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Maybe senility has finally corrupted my thinking process?I'm sorry, did you just use logic and TC in the same sentence? What's going on here?
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I understand exactly what you mean. Next time yer in CEG4 lemme know, and I'll go over all the identifiers I can.So just my question... Yall list airports by there identifiers all the time and do not say the name, do you actually think most people know which airport your talking about.
I only say this because I bet I know less than 10% of the ones people list.
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How many of you have been to FOOL?
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Tim: CZBB...Blunder Bay...Class "C" under the CYVR Terminal Class"C"...sorry that's Boundary Bay. How could I ever make that mistake????
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you brought laziness up not me, i just commented on it. your words.EngineGuy wrote:Well it is very easy to look them up as many said here, even google works.... BUT as curious as I am, sometimes there is also a part of me that could not give a poop. The formula goes like this --> 2 Parts curious, 2 parts apethy, and 1 part lazyness. Thats adds up to 3 out of five reasons for not looking it up.
so much for my theoryOld Dog Flying wrote:Tim: CZBB...Blunder Bay...Class "C" under the CYVR Terminal Class"C"...sorry that's Boundary Bay. How could I ever make that mistake????
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Sydney might well be SYD, YQY,YSSY, YSBK etc.. but Sidney is right next to CYYJ.Besides, if I want to go to Sydney, do I type SYD, YQY, YSSY, YSBK, YYJ, CYQY, YSRI, or CYYJ...it's just so precise using aeronautical abbreviators...
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Sydney might well be SYD, YQY,YSSY, YSBK etc.. but S[b][u]i[/u][/b]dney is right next to CYYJ.[/quote]
Are you homesick???? because for a guy on holidays, you sure are on here lots!!!
Sydney might well be SYD, YQY,YSSY, YSBK etc.. but S[b][u]i[/u][/b]dney is right next to CYYJ.[/quote]
Are you homesick???? because for a guy on holidays, you sure are on here lots!!!
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no, as i said before i deem it laziness. i am too lazy to write out the whole thing. you are too lazy to look it up. we are both lazy, but you started bitching.EngineGuy wrote: You see adding an explaination to an airport identifier as dumbing it down and hand holding.
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It would be cool if there were a system like the one on the airliners.net where the forum automatically recognizes identifiers and underlines them. Then when you put your mouse over it, it pops up the name of the airport.
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Excuse me Engineguy, who is "TC"? I don't want to have to look it up. Thx. ILB.EngineGuy wrote:Even the people at TC don't expect that all pilots will know where an airport is just by its identifier...
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clunckdriver wrote:...Even TC cant get it right, they recently called CYYZ LBPIA in a report, so we have moved CYYZ to Portugal? would be a nicer climate I must admit!
Not sure what you mean...CYYZ is in fact LBPIA.
LBPIA = Lester B. Pearson International Airport.
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ICAO? 
Geez did I say that....? Or just think it....?
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Heh heh...right, so you have very strong feelings against using abbreviations of airport names in place of proper ICAO idents, I get it. I doubt whomever wrote the repot you refer to intended LBPIA to be an ident but rather a lazy person at TC that didn't feel like writing out Toronto Lester B. Pearon International Airport...either way there's no excuse for it I guess.clunckdriver wrote:Linecrew, Im sorry but you miss the point, there is NO SUCH AIRPORT as LBPIA, period, TC used the local totally stupid designator on an international document, nobody outside of Toronto has a bloody clue where LPBIA is or was, thats why we have standard ICAO designators, and by the way, most folks dont care where Toronto is, including most Canadians.
I agree with you that the naming of airports is the most assinine practice out there. Next time I go to YYZ I'm going to call up Malton Tower and when I go to CYUL I'll call up Dorval Tower...I wonder if they will be insulted. Have you seen the name they gave Moose Jaw? It's now called "Moose Jaw/Air Vice Marshal C.M.McEwen SK". Keep that in mind when you see a report for AVMCMMcE.
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regarding YUL
I usually call them Dorval Tower... I just can't get it into my head that it's now "Trudeau". I do call it "PET" (fart in english") every now and then though.
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