Olympic security screw up

[beaverbob]

During the 2010 Olympics it will be forbidden to fly into YVR with passengers that depart from any airport without security.
If you depart places like Port Hardy, Powell River, Tofino and any number of airstrips, etc. your plane will be required to land first at an airport with security, such as Nanaimo, unload your passengers and then send them through security, reload them, then you can finally go to YVR. (Both terminals affected)
I wonder how that will affect the schedules? How about the seaplanes landing on the river?
Going to be some large delays and expences!


BB

[MichaelP]

I don't mind, we'll be grounded anyway.
Look on the bright side, we'll have an excuse to take off on a long vacation to Thailand, Vietnam, or any other part of paradise and leave the whole mess to someone else.

It will be interesting to see what happens.

[YBW-Kid]

By this information, can I safely assume there will be metal detectors and pre-board screening check points set up on the Trans Canada Highway ensuring Vancouver will be safe from un-screened people entering the "Vancouver Green Zone" in their cars?

I suspect this is just a creative way to restrict air traffic rather than for real security reasons.

Anyways security is always 90% optical illusion. Your games will not be any safer doing this. I truly hope there are no problems in Vancouver, but this is insane. Put lots of eyes on the streets, be careful, be smart, but don't step on everyone for this once in a lifetime experience.

I experienced Calgary and it was truly amazing. A very special feeling will come over Vancouver about one week before the games open. This feeling will intensify over the period of the Games and the night when the flame is extinguished, you will feel sad that it is over.

Enjoy.

[Old Dog Flying]

The BIG news story on Monday was the closing of the race track located next to one of the venues...but has there been anything leaked to the media about the complete stand-down for 54 days, of all flying training in the Vancouver area????? There undoubtedly be a few FTUs hit very hard and when it is all over the politicians will take all of the credit and none of the blame.

[Widow]

Great point ODF. The NDP were really up and at 'em in the Legislature yesterday over 200 jobs at the track. Maybe some folks should start writing their MPs ...

[beaverbob]

I just sent the following to the BC government as well as the opposition.

Is it true that there will be a complete stand-down for 54 days, of all flying training in the Vancouver area????? There will undoubtedly be a few Flying Training Units (Flight Schools) hit very hard. When it is all over who will replace their income. I don't mean just the instructors wages but also the lost revenue of the companies.
This is a very marginal business at the best. Some of these schools will not recover if this is true. Why close business for something so optional and temporary as the Olympics.

Same with the scheduled and charter airlines who are to be disrupted by the following.

During the 2010 Olympics it will be forbidden to fly into YVR with passengers that depart from any airport without security. If you depart places like Port Hardy, Powell River, Tofino and any number of airstrips, etc. your plane will be required to land first at an airport with security, such as Nanaimo, unload your passengers and then send them through security, reload them, then you can finally go to YVR. (Both terminals affected)
I wonder how that will affect the schedules? How about the seaplanes landing on the river?
No security available for Seaplane operations. Do they give up on the airport for the duration as well?
Going to be some large delays and expenses!

I can see legal action by the likes of Harbour Air, Seair, Westcoast Air, Pacific Coastal etc.

Bob Bates

[Widow]

[beaverbob]

Now you all know who Beaverbob is

[Apollo]

Where can one find the information regarding security policy, airspace, and the general plan?

[cessnafloatflyer]

Harbour Air, Seair, Westcoast Air

Not likely... the Victoria Harbour and Vancouver Harbours will have screening as will the River.

[swordfish]

Now you all know who Beaverbob is

A lot of us guessed it a long time ago...

[Widow]

http://www.timescolonist.com/News/Vanco ... story.html

http://bc.rcmp.ca/ViewPage.action?siteN ... nguageId=1

http://bc.rcmp.ca/ViewPage.action?siteN ... nguageId=1

[YoungPunk]

Interesting. My airport is unsecured (no security at all really) and we have the torch coming here. I'm very interested to see just what they expect us to come up with for them.

[North Shore]

So, what's to stop me from hijacking a plane out of Powell River, and then diverting it for nefarious reasons into one of the no-fly zones? Wouldn't a complete ban on flights out of those places, unless they have screening, be more effective?

[Chuck Ellsworth]

Will the military have jets on stand by to shoot down airplanes in the no fly zones?

[NJ]

They'll scramble the DHC5's from YQQ

[Widow]

Will the military have jets on stand by to shoot down airplanes in the no fly zones?

Of course not. There will be unmanned drones.

[Chuck Ellsworth]

They are going to use the drones that work in Tower C in Ottawa?

[beaverbob]

Maybe a hijacker will hijack a C-150 and fly it into BC place.
Those on the ground will look at each other and ask

Did you hear something?
No, I don't think so.
I'm sure I heard a muffled "pop" from somewhere.

[beaverbob]

The government keeps telling us that the olympics will be a time of opportunity for business. Then many of us look farward to maybe some extra sightseeing, or trips with tourists in the area and "Whamo" The airlines take it up the ass again from a No fly zone that covers YVR to Whistler.

FK the Olympics

[Old Dog Flying]

And don't forget that NavCan will still be manning the towers at ZBB, YPK, YNJ...probably full staffing with the only traffic being VIPs in their corporate jets and VIP helicopters. The might be some GA flying out of these places but rumour has it that the pilot and pax will have to go through security screening before they are allowed to fly...and then only on a severely restricted flight plan.

Some of this we got from a NC "suit" in October but I would not rely on anything from that outfit.

[beaverbob]

I'm gettin really pissed off now. Think I'll go on another holiday.

[airpolit]

posted:
Security solution...
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=51324

[buck82]

Ahh don't worry, it will probably end up being foggy for three weeks straight anyways.

[foxmoth]

yes Cat, they will use the drones from tower c

they say specificlly, "unmanned".